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Duck Drahko
DUST University
Ivy League
83
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Posted - 2013.07.26 20:34:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:Type of input does not a good player make. KB/M is no better or worse than controller for input, it is all about what you use and practice with. I know plenty of ridiculously good xbox players that can't for the life of them do the same thing on KB/M. Know why? Because for years and years all they have used was a controller and have mastered manipulating it to make their toon do what they want it to do. It is the same thing for KB/M people that have switched to controllers. Saying one is inertly better than the other is basically saying apples taste better than oranges.
It would be nice to believe that, but alas, I can't.
Sometimes a video says more than a thousand words, so I will just leave this here.
Enjoy! |
pseudosnipre
DUST University
Ivy League
90
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:11:00 -
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All that howlcage money could have bought you a kb/m... |
Balzich Rotaine
ZODS ARMY
163
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:19:00 -
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My uncle and my dad are jealous of me because they can't get the hang of using a controller. All you kb&m users are just jealous you have no real skill and can only point and click. You have no clue how to game and never will. Why bother trying? you can have just as much fun clicking icons on windows. Go back to pc. Keyboard and mouse takes little to no skill so stop bragging it up like you are superior because you use one. You suck. We know it, you know it, and so does everyone else. Point and click is lame and so are you. Go play plants vs zombie. |
Phantom Vaxer
The Generals
EoN.
55
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:30:00 -
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Alucard Fang wrote:Duh, KB+M is always superior. Put console players against PC players any day in a shooter and the console players will get destroyed. Mouse is much easier to aim with and more precise.
Beg to differ... |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
114
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:43:00 -
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Phantom Vaxer wrote:Alucard Fang wrote:Duh, KB+M is always superior. Put console players against PC players any day in a shooter and the console players will get destroyed. Mouse is much easier to aim with and more precise. Beg to differ...
I know a few really good players who re-key the kb/m to controller on pc, they dont use dual sticks, they use pads.
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Paran Tadec
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1249
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Posted - 2013.07.26 22:55:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:DR88VIPER Starrunner wrote:lets all face it fps is a genre that really ALWAYS should be played with kb/m and if it wasnt for 13 year old cod kiddies and bf bitches then it would prolly never been such a succes on the console. So for dust to support kb/m is really cool so we can all enjoy the fps genre as it is intended to be played.
Now i know all u ppl playing with ds3 are kinda boned on this but really learn how to aim instead of relying on the AUTO-AIM function. i really hope ccp will continu to work on kb/m input and that 1 day all the auto aim crap can be put behind us. Read: Old farts need KBM to stay relevant in a console FPS :p Read: Coach Potato 12 year old's want to be competitive FPS gamers using controls designed for platform games.
This: Situational awareness is more important factor than type of input when it comes to FPS. Removing wont help you kiddies get gud. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
357
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:08:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:DR88VIPER Starrunner wrote:lets all face it fps is a genre that really ALWAYS should be played with kb/m and if it wasnt for 13 year old cod kiddies and bf bitches then it would prolly never been such a succes on the console. So for dust to support kb/m is really cool so we can all enjoy the fps genre as it is intended to be played.
Now i know all u ppl playing with ds3 are kinda boned on this but really learn how to aim instead of relying on the AUTO-AIM function. i really hope ccp will continu to work on kb/m input and that 1 day all the auto aim crap can be put behind us. Read: Old farts need KBM to stay relevant in a console FPS :p Read: Coach Potato 12 year old's want to be competitive FPS gamers using controls designed for platform games. This: Situational awareness is more important factor than type of input when it comes to FPS. Removing wont help you kiddies get gud.
And what happens when both players are situationally aware? You guys keep bringing it up when the discussion is about mouse vs gamepad and not about tactics. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
810
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:12:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:That is why console players have Aim Assist.
It is easier to make fine movements and aiming with a mouse than trying to move your thumbs incrementally with a DS3 - Aim Assist helps with that.
most of us don't use the aim assist tho, for 1 it doesnt really help that much, like your about to kill someone and suddenly aim assist tracks the wrong target
it shouldnt be made any better. most don't want total ez mode aiming for them |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
800
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:18:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:DR88VIPER Starrunner wrote:lets all face it fps is a genre that really ALWAYS should be played with kb/m and if it wasnt for 13 year old cod kiddies and bf bitches then it would prolly never been such a succes on the console. So for dust to support kb/m is really cool so we can all enjoy the fps genre as it is intended to be played.
Now i know all u ppl playing with ds3 are kinda boned on this but really learn how to aim instead of relying on the AUTO-AIM function. i really hope ccp will continu to work on kb/m input and that 1 day all the auto aim crap can be put behind us. Read: Old farts need KBM to stay relevant in a console FPS :p Read: Coach Potato 12 year old's want to be competitive FPS gamers using controls designed for platform games. This: Situational awareness is more important factor than type of input when it comes to FPS. Removing wont help you kiddies get gud. And what happens when both players are situationally aware? You guys keep bringing it up when the discussion is about mouse vs gamepad and not about tactics.
Situational Awareness is critical in FPS games....aiming is just the finishing product. If you do everything correctly, you don't even need to be good at aiming.. just.. good "enough". |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
359
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:09:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Situational Awareness is critical in FPS games....aiming is just the finishing product. If you do everything correctly, you don't even need to be good at aiming.. just.. good "enough".
Do you know how silly you sound when you say aiming isnt important in an FPS game? Your argument falls flat when the opposite goes true for kb/m making it a null argument. Are you gonna tell me next that if you try hard enough, you can transform your analog controller into a mouse? 
Also let me reiterate:
Doc Noah wrote:And what happens when both players are situationally aware? You guys keep bringing it up when the discussion is about mouse vs gamepad and not about tactics. |
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Anuliadon Gortusk
Ancient Exiles
Negative-Feedback
76
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:12:00 -
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Silly CCP if i wanted to play a ultra twitch shooter i would play a game which knows wqhat they are doing...like Quake. Can't wait for the kb/m invasion to chase off any new players and many remaining vets. |
Anuliadon Gortusk
Ancient Exiles
Negative-Feedback
76
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:14:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:That is why console players have Aim Assist.
It is easier to make fine movements and aiming with a mouse than trying to move your thumbs incrementally with a DS3 - Aim Assist helps with that.
Good call console players for using the standard controller you need to be punished and use aim assist. Please...I never use aim assist will happily uninstall the game before using aim assist. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
801
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:17:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Situational Awareness is critical in FPS games....aiming is just the finishing product. If you do everything correctly, you don't even need to be good at aiming.. just.. good "enough". Do you know how silly you sound when you say aiming isnt important in an FPS game? Your argument falls flat when the opposite goes true for kb/m making it a null argument. Are you gonna tell me next that if you try hard enough, you can transform your analog controller into a mouse? Also let me reiterate: Doc Noah wrote:And what happens when both players are situationally aware? You guys keep bringing it up when the discussion is about mouse vs gamepad and not about tactics.
You know how stupid you sound saying that Tactical / Situational Awareness is not important in a FPS game ?
Next you going to say that the most Important thing in a WAR, is shooting at everything without tactics or logistics ..just pick a gun and go to war..as far as you can AIM perfectly you are going to be fine... just rush to the front line with your Rifle and kill everyone with you amazing aiming ..
Word of advice ... NEVER JOIN THE ARMY.. you won't last long. |
Duck Drahko
DUST University
Ivy League
85
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:26:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Doc Noah wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Situational Awareness is critical in FPS games....aiming is just the finishing product. If you do everything correctly, you don't even need to be good at aiming.. just.. good "enough". Do you know how silly you sound when you say aiming isnt important in an FPS game? Your argument falls flat when the opposite goes true for kb/m making it a null argument. Are you gonna tell me next that if you try hard enough, you can transform your analog controller into a mouse? Also let me reiterate: Doc Noah wrote:And what happens when both players are situationally aware? You guys keep bringing it up when the discussion is about mouse vs gamepad and not about tactics. You know how stupid you sound saying that Tactical / Situational Awareness is not important in a FPS game ? Next you going to say that the most Important thing in a WAR, is shooting at everything without tactics or logistics ..just pick a gun and go to war..as far as you can AIM perfectly you are going to be fine... just rush to the front line with your Rifle and kill everyone with you amazing aiming .. Word of advice ... NEVER JOIN THE ARMY.. you won't last long.
Sorry, but are you dense? He hasn't said that situational awareness isn't important. It's as important as tactics are to football, but saying aiming is not important for an FPS is as stupid as saying technique isn't important in football. You need both, and at best you can try to cover up a weakness in one area with excellence in another. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
296
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:29:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:That is why console players have Aim Assist.
It is easier to make fine movements and aiming with a mouse than trying to move your thumbs incrementally with a DS3 - Aim Assist helps with that. most of us don't use the aim assist tho, for 1 it doesnt really help that much, like your about to kill someone and suddenly aim assist tracks the wrong target it shouldnt be made any better. most don't want total ez mode aiming for them
Aim assist is disabled atm. They are going to improve it with the aim fix. As trying to balance DS3 with mouse. Even with that mouse is vastly superior.
-XOXO |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
289
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Posted - 2013.07.27 00:49:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Doc Noah wrote:Funny how they mention they dont want to seperate their community in regards to matchmaking but they're more than happy to seperate DS3 and KB/M users. When everyone starts using kb/m for Dust 514, I'll be looking for another game or just go back to PC gaming. If everyone starts using kb/m and all of the console players leave... maybe they'll move it over to PC instead of PS4!? 
Damn sure don't need a KB/M shooter on Playstation4. |
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