KB/M isn't even the best combo

controller/mouse is vastly superior. i love how nobody but me has picked up on it either.

Bringing KBM to console is pretty much an admittance of ineptitude and inability to adapt.

It wasn't when they initially proposed it, because it had limitations that let it be balanced against the other control methods.

We've just had bitchy-ass PC gamers ranting on and on about how they're "unfairly gimped" and how they should be allowed raw mouse input and no suit-based rotation caps.

If they actually do this, they will have succeeded in fragmenting the playerbase beyond recovery just when it looks like we're back on the right track.

Can you clarify this a little?

Like... my console shouldn't be placed on top of my PC? Why is that a problem?

You mean a controler like the frag fx or PC mouse and controller

Bringing KBM to console is pretty much an admittance of ineptitude and inability to adapt.

Read: Old farts need KBM to stay relevant in a console FPS

:p

No, just a regular PS3 controller in your left hand, and your mouse in your right hand

i should really make a video of me playing like this, people are always so confused on how it works and how it's even possible to be good like that.

That is why console players have Aim Assist.

It is easier to make fine movements and aiming with a mouse than trying to move your thumbs incrementally with a DS3 - Aim Assist helps with that.

We already been there... THAT IS WHY THE MOUSE IS NERF RIGHT NOW. I think CCP have realize now that doesn't give a HUGE advantage. BECAUSE it doesn't.

Tactical Awareness and FPS experience are the main factors.

How do you push the x, triangle, square, and circle buttons though?

The aim assist is kind of poopy right now. They need to make it more effective at range because that's where the MKB shines compared to DS3.

Plus you have to consider that in this game it takes a while to kill someone. CCP has to put that into account and fortify the aim assist at long ranges because, lets be honest majority of the fire fights are done in a long range situation and a mouse would be more precise at that range.

No, just a regular PS3 controller in your left hand, and your mouse in your right hand

i should really make a video of me playing like this, people are always so confused on how it works and how it's even possible to be good like that.

I just did that to test a mouse, because I don't have a keyboard at hand... But how can you play effectively without being able to reload, jump, crouch, or select equipment without taking your hand away from the mouse? It's not like it doesn't work, but I can't imagine a keyboard being less effective just because it has no analog strafe (which can even be an advantage at times). Do you have those functions bound to additional mouse buttons? But how would you do that without software drivers?

Anyway, like I said I just tried the mouse, and I have to say I'm shocked... It's absolute easy mode. Maybe this is just because I'm not very good with a DS yet, but the difference is so dramatic, I don't think I could catch up to it with months of practice.

This basically leaves me two options: Become bitter about it (and possibly stop playing), or cave in and move my PS3 to the desk... I am tempted to do the latter, just because I know that I'll be a lot more competitive, just like I used to be in PC shooters. But I can't help but wonder if it's really worth it, because catering to PC gamers on a CONSOLE game is clearly suicide, and why should I commit to a game which has no future...

So frankly, I'm kind of pissed right now. Although a part of me is looking forward to a lot of easy kills... Man...

That's simply not true. I've used KB&M time-to-time, and you do better every time because of the "sticky" factor. I could kill someone from 60m out with a submachine gun, because I could glue my site onto them and 78 out of 80 bullets would hit the enemy. That kind of micro brain correction isn't possible with controllers. And I'm kind of eFamous (lol) for my aim with controllers (as I don't play with aim assist turned on; not that it makes any difference in DUST)

There is a reason why KB&M and controller shooters are left in there own worlds.

How do you push the x, triangle, square, and circle buttons though?

My PS3 sits on my desk right next to my computer... plugged in to my second monitor.

I pretty much play this like a subpar pc game.

Which is exactly the problem. You can't market a game to console gamers, if you get an advantage by treating your console like a subpar PC...

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I know some people have said they tried KB/M and they play worse with it, but it's not a fair comparison if they never played a shooter with a mouse. What matters is how an experienced DS player matches up against an experienced KB/M player, and from what I can tell so far, it's not even a contest. Now now mouse is even going to get an unlocked turning speed? This is really worrying.

Sorry.. Tactical Awareness and FPS experience are the main factors. I know because some times i play with the DS3 when i want to have a break from the mouse ( I have Repetitive Strain in my shoulder ), and my scores are not different at all.

Do you think that MAYBE, KB/M users are old farts that has been playing FPS games for decades ? Experience should count for something too.

Type of input does not a good player make. KB/M is no better or worse than controller for input, it is all about what you use and practice with. I know plenty of ridiculously good xbox players that can't for the life of them do the same thing on KB/M. Know why? Because for years and years all they have used was a controller and have mastered manipulating it to make their toon do what they want it to do. It is the same thing for KB/M people that have switched to controllers. Saying one is inertly better than the other is basically saying apples taste better than oranges.

I have mastered both and I still say mouse trumps analog any day.

Also baked apples > oranges. Oranges just burn my eyes when they squirt trying to peel them.