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GOTDUST
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:02:00 -
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Make all equipment spots mandatory!! If they are'nt filled, suit becomes invalid. I have ran ONLY logi since day one. If u remove slots or pg/cpu, the logi Suit WILL DIE. Us logi's need our slots to protect ourselves since NO ONE else will. :( |
Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
90
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:04:00 -
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Or, they can continue with the fix they are implementing.
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1266
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:05:00 -
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ah dude... don't even stress about it.
By the end of the year I suspect logi's will be sidearm only and assaults with have a passive 10% damage.
It'll really force people into their 'intended roles'. |
D ofDk
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
11
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:23:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:ah dude... don't even stress about it.
By the end of the year I suspect logi's will be sidearm only and assaults with have a passive 10% damage.
It'll really force people into their 'intended roles'.
Aha...
Well in reallife a combat medic is trained in the same rifles as the front soldiers. in reallife an engineer is training in the same rifles as the front soldiers.
I know this game is based far away of beeing realistic, but if my logi will be forced to sidearm only, i guarantee that there will be no more logis running arround. I dont wanna hide around in the back.
As a logi i should be part of the frontline, prepare the ground for heavys and assaults with my hives and drop up links, but i also should be part of attacking objectives.
If assaults are not able to kill me, sorry, but then they arent good enough or even something i call skilled. And to be honest i barely see an assault shooting me down with a duvolle or scrambler.
Most times i get killed by massdriving or flaylock bunnys. Skill=0.
But the more variance a game offers, the more people will cry for nerf this and that.
CCP should invest time and bring some more maps! 3 Maps in 12 months or even more devolpment time, thats a shame.
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1269
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:30:00 -
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Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
753
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:38:00 -
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D ofDk wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:ah dude... don't even stress about it.
By the end of the year I suspect logi's will be sidearm only and assaults with have a passive 10% damage.
It'll really force people into their 'intended roles'. Aha... Well in reallife a combat medic is trained in the same rifles as the front soldiers. in reallife an engineer is training in the same rifles as the front soldiers. I know this game is based far away of beeing realistic, but if my logi will be forced to sidearm only, i guarantee that there will be no more logis running arround. I dont wanna hide around in the back.
As a logi i should be part of the frontline, prepare the ground for heavys and assaults with my hives and drop up links, but i also should be part of attacking objectives. If assaults are not able to kill me, sorry, but then they arent good enough or even something i call skilled. And to be honest i barely see an assault shooting me down with a duvolle or scrambler. Most times i get killed by massdriving or flaylock bunnys. Skill=0. But the more variance a game offers, the more people will cry for nerf this and that. CCP should invest time and bring some more maps! 3 Maps in 12 months or even more devolpment time, thats a shame. Speak for yourself.
I've been running Sidearm Logi since nearly the beginning of Chromosome.
If Logis are forced to run Sidearms, I'll still be right here. |
GOTDUST
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:45:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE. SCREW U BUDDY. When ur laying on the FRONT LINE bleeding out, that's where u'll stay. Im running for them hills. LMFAO
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Justin Tymes
Raymond James Corp
251
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:46:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE.
Lol, Logis are not a heal slave. I'm most of the time a commandbro; I lay down Triage Hives, Gauged Hives, REs and Uplinks. I use a Assault MD to suppress the enemy and deter them from coming near. How the hell is a SMG suppose to deter anyone from coming within 10 meters, throwing an Allotek Flux, and rushing in? |
Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
93
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:49:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE. Lol, Logis are not a heal slave. I'm most of the time a commandbro; I lay down Triage Hives, Gauged Hives, REs and Uplinks. I use a Assault MD to suppress the enemy and deter them from coming near. How the hell is a SMG suppose to deter anyone from coming within 10 meters, throwing an Allotek Flux, and rushing in?
There are plenty of sidearm weapons to choose from. Why force the SMG on yourself? |
Knightshade Belladonna
Neanderthal Nation
684
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:50:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE.
If it was not their intended role.. WHY DO THEY HAVE LIGHT WEAPON SLOT. WHY DO AMARR LOGI STANDARD GET 2 WEAPON SLOTS. STFU, HTFU QQ more all of you.
I like this idea OP has, as a logi that logis, but also has AR prof 4. To prevent people from having enough cpu to field all proto defense gear, make it show invalid fitting until all equipment slots are filled.
Also, if people are so bent on wanting the logi to not be able to shoot.. many of us are specced into light weapons, beecause it has a frikin light weapon slot.. so instead of wasting a ton of SP.. maybe put in some type of penalty to all logi suit ( -20% dmg ) or something along them lines, I could live with it. |
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D ofDk
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
11
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:51:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE.
And where can i read about the intention of their role?
I think im full filling my role closely perfectly.
I go forward, bring a drop up link in a covered place, prepare the area with rep hives and supply hives for my heavys and assaults and then i go shoot people. If heavys moving forward or my assaults, i follow and bring new equipments in. If blueberries than cannot figure out that there is a rep hive on the ground which can be used either for defending an area, or to cover back to get repairs, is it then my fault that i help and shoot other people?
Is the intented role for all logis in a match only to lick others arses by using the rep tool and follow the heavys all the way?
No!
I accept if we are maybe to strong for other assaults, but our equipment can be easily destroyed by flux, our guys by nades, and i should be another puppet?
Im getting sick of those logi talks.
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Justin Tymes
Raymond James Corp
251
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:55:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE. Lol, Logis are not a heal slave. I'm most of the time a commandbro; I lay down Triage Hives, Gauged Hives, REs and Uplinks. I use a Assault MD to suppress the enemy and deter them from coming near. How the hell is a SMG suppose to deter anyone from coming within 10 meters, throwing an Allotek Flux, and rushing in? There are plenty of sidearm weapons to choose from. Why force the SMG on yourself?
What side arm is suppressing the enemy and deterring them from rushing in? The closest thing is the nerfed flaylock which is pretty much reduced to 1vs 1 combat, and that only gets 3 shots. Plenty of side-arms? Flaylock, SMG, Pistol and... |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1269
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:57:00 -
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Oh and when they do change the logi LW slot to a sidearm.
Don't expect a refund on your LW skills.
You made your choice, and you have to live with the consequences of those choices.
Just grind more SP |
Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
93
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:58:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:
What side arm is suppressing the enemy and deterring them from rushing in? The closest thing is the nerfed flaylock which is pretty much reduced to 1vs 1 combat, and that only gets 3 shots. Plenty of side-arms? Flaylock, SMG, Pistol and...
Your hopes and dreams. |
Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
93
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:59:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Oh and when they do change the logi LW slot to a sidearm. Don't expect a refund on your LW skills. You made your choice, and you have to live with the consequences of those choices. Just grind more SP
I see what your doing there ;) |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1269
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:59:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:What side arm is suppressing the enemy and deterring them from rushing in? The closest thing is the nerfed flaylock which is pretty much reduced to 1vs 1 combat, and that only gets 3 shots. Plenty of side-arms? Flaylock, SMG, Pistol and...
4 racial variants of nova knives 4 racial variants of pistols 4 racial variants of SMGs
Dude that's 12 weapons to choose from right there... QQ more? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
753
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:01:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE. If it was not their intended role.. WHY DO THEY HAVE LIGHT WEAPON SLOT. WHY DO AMARR LOGI STANDARD GET 2 WEAPON SLOTS. STFU, HTFU QQ more all of you. I like this idea OP has, as a logi that logis, but also has AR prof 4. To prevent people from having enough cpu to field all proto defense gear, make it show invalid fitting until all equipment slots are filled. Also, if people are so bent on wanting the logi to not be able to shoot.. many of us are specced into light weapons, beecause it has a frikin light weapon slot.. so instead of wasting a ton of SP.. maybe put in some type of penalty to all logi suit ( -20% dmg ) or something along them lines, I could live with it.
Again, speak for yourself.
I'd rather have ungimped damage potential, it isn't my fault all the scrublogi want to run around with an AR acting like they're Assaults. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Neanderthal Nation
684
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:05:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE. If it was not their intended role.. WHY DO THEY HAVE LIGHT WEAPON SLOT. WHY DO AMARR LOGI STANDARD GET 2 WEAPON SLOTS. STFU, HTFU QQ more all of you. I like this idea OP has, as a logi that logis, but also has AR prof 4. To prevent people from having enough cpu to field all proto defense gear, make it show invalid fitting until all equipment slots are filled. Also, if people are so bent on wanting the logi to not be able to shoot.. many of us are specced into light weapons, beecause it has a frikin light weapon slot.. so instead of wasting a ton of SP.. maybe put in some type of penalty to all logi suit ( -20% dmg ) or something along them lines, I could live with it. Again, speak for yourself. I'd rather have ungimped damage potential, it isn't my fault all the scrublogi want to run around with an AR acting like they're Assaults.
I hear you lol, that was a suggestion to the we must have sidearms QQ. If there was to be a change to our effective killing power, I would rather have my light weapon gimped some and still have a chance to kill and have suppressive range.. which I won't be doing with nova knifes, an smg , or a damn pistol |
Paran Tadec
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1246
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:07:00 -
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if you force logis to equip all equipment slots, and be sidearm only, then no other class should be allowed to carry equipment. Simple fix really. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Neanderthal Nation
685
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:12:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:if you force logis to equip all equipment slots, and be sidearm only, then no other class should be allowed to carry equipment. Simple fix really.
haha that would be funny to hear ze rage from that one.
If they did take away my light weapon and people expecte dme to be their hp slave.. I would go about every match just like this..
1. Spawn in full drop uplink suit, throw them everywhere 2. Return to redline supply depot, switch to full Nanohive suit and do same thing 3. Return to redline and sit there
This game sounds fun |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
753
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:19:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:if you force logis to equip all equipment slots, and be sidearm only, then no other class should be allowed to carry equipment. Simple fix really. haha that would be funny to hear ze rage from that one. If they did take away my light weapon and people expecte dme to be their hp slave.. I would go about every match just like this.. 1. Spawn in full drop uplink suit, throw them everywhere 2. Return to redline supply depot, switch to full Nanohive suit and do same thing 3. Return to redline and sit there This game sounds fun
A positive to this.
You could be looking at the map calling out enemy positions to your teammates, placing fragos and dropping Orbs, all from the same safety that is enjoyed by redline Sniping HAVs. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1270
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:23:00 -
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its going to be more than just swapping to sidearm only... we can expect they will also give logis the base stats that assaults have.
Giving logis more hp and more utility, at the cost of weaponry... their intended role anyone??
A few patches later once they realize their mistake, they add in a second sidearm slot. |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
47
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:28:00 -
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Fair enough I can't comment much cus I only just got an Adv logi but from where I stand the MM Logi is perfectly fine. It has the lowest protection and I find functions perfectly as intended. I get kills solely because of superior tactics. In a straight shoot-out I'm history.
My point is don't use sweeping statements saying the logi's are too offensive - after all, to my mind at least, thats partly the point of the Amarr logi
Pinch of salt cus I'm hardly a vet |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
374
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:28:00 -
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GOTDUST wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE. SCREW U BUDDY. When ur laying on the FRONT LINE bleeding out, that's where u'll stay. Im running for them hills. LMFAO Quit complaining your Mega Ass-Salt is getting Nerfed.
What do you want next?
A Respec, cause you Spent your SP incorrectly?
You padded your KDR for a few Months, come down to the rest of us.
Die every once and a while.
Play like us other Suits.
Don't Spec into FOTM CalLogi and Flaylock, cause you KNOW its going to get Nerfed.
Learn from your Idioticities like the TAR.
Play it Fair bro. |
Justin Tymes
Raymond James Corp
252
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:35:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:What side arm is suppressing the enemy and deterring them from rushing in? The closest thing is the nerfed flaylock which is pretty much reduced to 1vs 1 combat, and that only gets 3 shots. Plenty of side-arms? Flaylock, SMG, Pistol and... 4 racial variants of nova knives 4 racial variants of pistols 4 racial variants of SMGs Dude that's 12 weapons to choose from right there... QQ more?
Gallente Logi supressing the enemy with dem Kova Knives.
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Royce Kronos
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
83
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:53:00 -
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The logistics suits already have lower base stats than the assault suits. Lower EHP, CPU, PG, Stamina, Sprint speed, and with the new changes, the same recharge delay.
If you can't beat a logi suit, go home. You have better stats than it. If you lose, it's because you're a worse player.
It's beneficial for a squad if the logi is useful in a firefight. They would be a liability if they weren't.
Quit your QQing, HTFU, Welcome to New Eden.
You are the weakest link. Good Bye.
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GOTDUST
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:53:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:GOTDUST wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Honestly,
you're logistics, you shouldn't be engaging in combat at all.
If an assault starts shooting at you, you should be sprinting away to the nearest heavy to lock on your rep tool to!
Dude you need to stop playing logi like an assault. IT WAS NOT THEIR INTENDED ROLE. SCREW U BUDDY. When ur laying on the FRONT LINE bleeding out, that's where u'll stay. Im running for them hills. LMFAO Quit complaining your Mega Ass-Salt is getting Nerfed. What do you want next? A Respec, cause you Spent your SP incorrectly? You padded your KDR for a few Months, come down to the rest of us. Die every once and a while. Play like us other Suits. Don't Spec into FOTM CalLogi and Flaylock, cause you KNOW its going to get Nerfed. Learn from your Idioticities like the TAR. Play it Fair bro.
Dude/dudette check me out on WP leader board (#215 or so) I only have 10,000 kills with my logi! I use it for it's intended purposes. Im the guy spending 300k EVERY match delivering drop uplink, nanos ammo/repair. Most of which are aur gear. I PAY so YOU can live! Heck i will even CRASH a ship into an infested area just to get those drops down. NO MORE! Nerf me and you can just buy your own sh*t. Logi's will be NO MORE! |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
52
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Posted - 2013.07.26 17:25:00 -
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Logis should have no weapon, just a rep tool that can function as a damage tool to lock onto enemies, inflicting damage equal to the tool's rate of armor repair.
And if multiple enemies swarm you, hop in your Logi LAV and run over them :D |
GOTDUST
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2013.07.26 17:26:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Logis should have no weapon, just a rep tool that can function as a damage tool to lock onto enemies, inflicting damage equal to the tool's rate of armor repair.
And if multiple enemies swarm you, hop in your Logi LAV and run over them :D "says the squid" I'll poke ur eyes out with my injector. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1274
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Posted - 2013.07.26 17:27:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Logis should have no weapon, just a rep tool that can function as a damage tool to lock onto enemies, inflicting damage equal to the tool's rate of armor repair.
And if multiple enemies swarm you, hop in your Logi LAV and run over them :D
It should bypass shields too..
Core focused repair tool that bypasses shields lol..
105 dps with a lock on lololol
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