Now I will be the first one to admit that the Caldari logi is overpowered and Was not being used for its intended purpose

I believe the taking away the shield extender bonus effectively puts it back in line

I am not sure why CCP thinks that it is necessary to decrease the CPU on these

As an example I looked up all of the CPU on all of the proto-level Logi suits, All of the suits have a CPU of 390
So why then is the Caldari Logi suit being decreased to 350 while all other suits stay the same??

I am confused can someone explain

Now I will be the first one to admit that the Caldari logi is overpowered and Was not being used for its intended purpose

I believe the taking away the shield extender bonus effectively puts it back in line

I am not sure why CCP thinks that it is necessary to decrease the CPU on these

As an example I looked up all of the CPU on all of the proto-level Logi suits, All of the suits have a CPU of 390
So why then is the Caldari Logi suit being decreased to 350 while all other suits stay the same??

I am confused can someone explain

Well... on my Caldari alt, I put one point into Caldari logi so I can use the basic Caldari Logi suit (for support, not assault). Every single one of my Cal logi fittings are not unusable after the nerf.

This does not sit well with me.

would agree in general that a 20 CPU nerf to all variants stupidly hurts the basic logi far more than proto logi.

It is so you have to pick between proto support or proto defense or proto offense. I already refit most of my ADV Cal Logi setups with STD support equipment (30% injector), grenades and Exile, so I don't have to give up my extenders and plates.

Just so people understand... Any caldari logi using equipment (yeah I know not many of us) was already running a CPU mod to begin with.

Assault logis won't even feel this CPU reduction except for the shotgun users.

It's only really hurt hit the actual logis.

I understand its only a temporary fix but i really hope they review cal logis for 1.4 and help out the equip based logis a little.

hush OP, as a callogi myself try being a logi and not an assault. I have pre-nerfed my self and run with 3 enhanced shield extenders one basic armor plate and a basic shield refresher. militia equipment in all equip slots and an exile assault rifle. I am in the top three every match and generally in the top 3 on the leader board. Did i need to nerf my self so hard? no. but after the changes what room I have left will be gravy. Learn to play your class you can't have everything.

Well good for you except I don't like to die easily which logi's shouldn't have to. I run an injector/ hives/ and uplink so yes I do play as logi. I have yet to hear a solid reason why these suits need a CPU nerf... Even the proto level one.

We need to pay for our sins.

and it makes all of the people who didn't spec into cal logi feel better lol.

What do you do though.. adapt or quit.

We've got so many nerfs and buffs ahead of us still... its not even worth stressing over anymore.

I've pretty much taken Pyrex's advice in his latest video... if you are really stressed about these changes... probably time to step back and stop giving a damn.

btw... oceania afk farming is perfect for finishing up electronics 5 while you have all your fittings invalid lol.

No it has at least one low then it's fine your not an armor tanker your shield so you have free slots.

True, Caldari logi's are not ment to be armour tankers... But it sure hamstrings the class when out of its very few low slots (due to shield tanking) you MUST use one of those for a CPU upgrade... That don't seem right.

I honestly don't know how people could make fits without one anyways.

All of my fits use over 600 CPU.

If that's true why aren't all logi suits getting the same nerf?

I told your ass to not use that OP suit if you wanted to play assault. should have went with the assault suit instead.

I mostly use my advanced level Caldari Logic suit so this Nerf really hits hard, I am fine with the shield nerf

With 3x complex extenders, 1x basic plates, 1x enh regulator and a Gek, I can fit a std locus/flux grenade, K-2 nanohive, std droplink, and std injector and have 27 CPU left over with my skills. The new change is going to make fitting really really tight, and you have to choose between advanced weapon and advanced equipment basically.

But *HERE* is the thing. We are all in the habit of shoe-horning proto shield extenders onto every suit we use, and I don't think CCP is balancing for this.

For S&Gs I rolled an all advanced Cal Logi suit with 3x enh extenders, 1x enh plate, 1x enh reg, Gek, M1 nades, K-2 hive, K-12 injector, and R-9 drop uplink... my CPU is at 318/358 (Core/Electronics V, light wep III). So even with lower skills, a full advanced suit will be able to fit post-nerf.

The reality is, though, that people will be bumping extenders to proto as per usual and cutting corners elsewhere, most likely in equipment.

I'd like to see them scale advanced equipment a bit better TBH. Give enh extenders +44, enh needle a 55% revive, that kind of thing. It would also narrow the effects of proto gear in pubs that so many complain about.

I think the idea is that since we only have 3 equipment slots.. in order to keep our combat efficacy on par with other logi suits we should have had a CPU reduction.

Its really all I can think of.

its not a terrible nerf though... not for assault logis anyways.

390 Base CPU + Electronics 4 + Core Upgrades 4 + Enhanced CPU Module (25%) is 608.4 CPU
350 Base CPU + Electronics 5 + Core Upgrades 4 + Complex CPU Module (35%) is 614.25 CPU

You just need maxed out electronics now to maintain your old lifestyle. It also means you'll want to stick to nano circuitry based equipment as the skill provides a passive 5% CPU reduction per level.

At this point I'm just glad they didn't nerf our PG... otherwise there would be no way I could run any equipment.

Um you may want to check your math
350 + Elec 5 (+17.5 per level to +87.5 total) + Core Ups 5 (+3.5 per level to +17.5) ='s 455 CPU

Complex Elec Up ='s 35% of 350 which ='s 122.5

Which brings me to only 577.5

I do have electronics and pg upgrades to five so I do have the maximum CPU And pg that you can have for the suit. It means I have to put a CPU upgrade into one of my lows, a regulator into my other low giving my very low armour

True, Caldari logi's are not ment to be armour tankers... But it sure hamstrings the class when out of its very few low slots (due to shield tanking) you MUST use one of those for a CPU upgrade... That don't seem right.