I believe the current flaylock should break into 2 variants,
these variants would consist with a more skilled powerful one and a weaker noob friendly variant.
Keep in mind the word ALMOST in the post in terms of it being balanced.

One variant would offer current damage rates but a one meter blast radius, this would offer higher damage in higher tiers.
The other variant would offer current radius rates but half the damage, this would have larger radius in higher tiers.

Keep in mind that most GN-13s will have a splash of around 1.72 where as the Core will have a splash of 2.5, thanks to +5% splash radius per level (3 for GN, 5 for Core)

So people kept saying that if you reduce the prototype flaylock splash radius to the GN-13 level it will be balanced.

So I took it to a ride and I think... they're almost right!
It took skill to land a shot, and that shot was rewarding.
It's a world of difference between 2 meters and 1.5 meters.

However, while yes it took more skill to use, but it's still comparatively easy to the SMG and pistol.
I think reducing the ROF to 1.5 rounds a second would be good. ( 90 RPM)


These two changes will hopefully fix this weapon while not making it useless.

I direct hit with a Proto Flaylock caused me 560+ damage... the fact is: its a secondary, no secondary should be able to be a one-hit-kill.

I direct hit with a Proto Flaylock caused me 560+ damage... the fact is: its a secondary, no secondary should be able to be a one-hit-kill.

Awww, you would Jenza, because you historically have been, are, and will continue to be a FOTW player. Nothing you can do about it, you are who you are.

I love the scrambler pistol and the flay lock. I use them both regularly. The flay lock is fun to use has some to little skill to use. But man the reason guns become op is because people complain to much . O the tac ar is to good. The hmg is to good o and right now the flay lock is to good . I stopped using the tac ar because it completely sucks ass and had to completely re teach my self how to use it. I Can tap r2 faster then bullet (plasma rounds) come out of the barrel. What I'm trying to say is its the one thing sheeple use right now I am one o them because its fun. When ever you but skills in to something it should get better and with the right mods a force to be reckoned with. Rather work as a team or spend your precious skills to F#*% win. Don't cry to ccp so they can spend there time to make the game better you you and take time away from making new weapons and gear ext.

I direct hit with a Proto Flaylock caused me 560+ damage... the fact is: its a secondary, no secondary should be able to be a one-hit-kill.

I direct hit with a Proto Flaylock caused me 560+ damage... the fact is: its a secondary, no secondary should be able to be a one-hit-kill.

Ever think of a suit with a ton of damage mods?

If they do both those changes it will be outdamaged by pretty much every other sidearm. Hell, there wouldn't be any reason to use it over the scrambler pistol.

I havent spec'd CORE yet,. but using the GN-13, it feels rewarding to get that kill with it, also, I feel that one is more of a "finisher".

Yeah, I've been using an alt with the GN-13 as a sidearm and it works beautifully for finishing off wounded players, which is what a sidearm should be all about.

It's damage should be toned back a bit, closer to the MD, but if CCP can manage to make the flaylock a real secondary weapon (used only for finishing off or as a last resort) then they will have done well. No sidearm should be as effective as a main unless a person puts the time and effort needed to make it work that way (which would be a skill thing, not a OP thing).

So people kept saying that if you reduce the prototype flaylock splash radius to the GN-13 level it will be balanced.

So I took it to a ride and I think... they're almost right!
It took skill to land a shot, and that shot was rewarding.
It's a world of difference between 2 meters and 1.5 meters.

However, while yes it took more skill to use, but it's still comparatively easy to the SMG and pistol.
I think reducing the ROF to 1.5 rounds a second would be good. ( 90 RPM)


These two changes will hopefully fix this weapon while not making it useless.

Keep in mind that most GN-13s will have a splash of around 1.72 where as the Core will have a splash of 2.5, thanks to +5% splash radius per level (3 for GN, 5 for Core)

Simple reduce the spash damage by half for all levels, take away the 5% bonus for each level, and two rounds per clip max. This would solve the insanity.

That's better than a tank's fragmented missiles...

I direct hit with a Proto Flaylock caused me 560+ damage... the fact is: its a secondary, no secondary should be able to be a one-hit-kill.

I know very little about the everyday trials and tribulations of tankers. I would like to point out, though, that a tank has unlimited ammo.

5 complex damage mods would do over 560 if the damage is 236 a round, not sure the direct damage so I used 236 as a guess .
I believe the regular direct hit is some where around that

Nerfing DPS would be more productive. Keep the Flaylock as an alpha strike weapon but lower the RoF so that it can't be spammed for cheap kills.