This thread is pathetic.

Back in February of this year we as a closed group of beta testers were offered the;

'Last respec' I.e this is going to be it now guys, NO MORE RESPECS After today. Fine.

There was a Super Carrier (10 Billion isk ship) nerf in Eve that made quite a few Super Capital Pilots 'quit' as well.

Also in Eve we do have Doomsday Devices which was also nerfed to hell. Before they could wipe out an entire fleet record kill shot being 700 starships in one go. Now they're like toned down macross cannons, blapping capital ships in a big beam of death.

I would only agree to another respect once the entire baseline is established, just doing it every patch will create the environment of 'entitlement' which I am trying to strictly avoid. Thus until we get all racial suits and vehicles and weapons in a respect per patch can lead to some very harmful behavior.

Why do you keep prancing about as if you have powers you don't. Watch out, disagree with IWS and he will fire you! Tell me, is that what happened to the executive producer? Did you fire him too?

They should just leave the game broken and wanting. How dare they try to give us what we want even if we are a minority of players, breaks the game, fixes the game, adds content or just makes it better. We should have never progressed past the first beta because it was perfect, so much better than what we have now. Good grief, we want static games where everything is perfect and nothing is changed. Come on CCP get your act together and give us a shooter that never changes and all weapons are equally equal.

Get rid of any innovative ideas and give us more of the same thing we have been playing for years. Take my money and re-skin everything! I don't like or want change because it scares me and doesn't allow me to press the win button whenever I want.

Here goes. Yes having a respec would help to identify op items. However, respecs would also allow mercs to totally skip the standard and advance, not allowing them to be used creates bad data.

Reallocation would allow more players to spec into op weapons and out of normal or under powered weapons making them feel even more imbalanced. The UP weapons would be buffed and the op weapons nerfed, causing more calls foe respec and more rage.

Drop ships and HAVs were overpowered when compared to AV and were nerfed into a black hole because we all cried they were op and we got them nerfed. Now the AV is too powerful and HAVs and dropships are pretty much a joke.

Spending resources on providing repecs are detrimental to the team designing the game because they have even fewer work hours to work on the game and when people don't get one for whatever reason they get mad.

Respecs beget more respecs because they are expected to be provided because they did before and why not now or they make someone who missed it for whatever reason even more mad.

Some people don't read the forums or come her to complain so it would be an hour or so wasted reinvesting SP instead of playing. I don't get much game time because of work and the last thing I want to do is read for an hour just to play.

EvE is based on persistence and yes changing the stats of items is the opposite of persistence but if the gear is OP then it needs to be pulled back. No respecs also discourages specing into OP gear because they know it will be nerfed - sometimes heavily - and don't want to waste SP on an item that will be less powerful.

Lastly, people do dump SP into OP gear because it is OP and we shouldn't reward people that do if for the lolz and tears it creates. The people who do this are basically cheating within the rules. They know it and we know.

You ccp lovers need to get the brown of your nose, cus you players are the once ruining this game. Choices have been made , and they where bad choices.
Like playing on a pitch black map withouth ir vision.
I hope in the future ccp listens to the normal players to.

This is why we need to go back into beta. This game is not ready for full release.

If it helps people with the whole 'persistence' bullshit. We should go back into beta, offer unlimited respecs. Get all this fotm bullshit out of the way. Establish a meaningful baseline (the one we have now is clearly not). Then go back into release with no respecs.

As it stands now, persistence is bullshit since the gear you buy today is not the gear you'll have tomorrow.

"living with your choices" is irrelevant as you can't make meaningful choices with the constant rebalancing of gear.

I completely agree with your points there, but this game is nowhere near ready for it.

Agreed 100%, +1 cookiez.

Maybe you know something i don't but we're what.. About 8 months away from that?

Long time to sit on nerfed gear, not enjoying the game.

See the smart developer would code the respec option in game. That way your not allocating resources or man power from game designs. Like i said CCP can stay the course of no respecs cuz it's worked so well so far lol.

Your statements are half truths at best. I don't have to prove you wrong because you did it for me in your post. The suit viability hasn't changed, they will be able perform their role but they will lose the ability to be what the other suits were intended to be.

There was a Super Carrier (10 Billion isk ship) nerf in Eve that made quite a few Super Capital Pilots 'quit' as well.

Also in Eve we do have Doomsday Devices which was also nerfed to hell. Before they could wipe out an entire fleet record kill shot being 700 starships in one go. Now they're like toned down macross cannons, blapping capital ships in a big beam of death.

It's actually the players that cry out for bad ideas, then cry some more when their bad ideas aren't given to them.


The people you are referring to are the people that understand that this game is different and needs to be completed differently.

Not like every other FPS.

Maybe you know something i don't but we're what.. About 8 months away from that?

Long time to sit on nerfed gear, not enjoying the game.

But its enough time to skill into new gear.

Im not only talking suit but gues you cant read english very well.

But its enough time to skill into new gear.

Another mad player that gives a bad idea...

I understand this game all to well, and there are lots that do to.
Apearantly a big chunk of that has no voice, cus they dont pay for a free game.