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Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:04:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:QFT and Logic Kain Spero wrote:Until a real baseline of balance is established and the game's content is filled out I really think that respects should be allowed with each patch or at least a refund of the skills that a directly impacted by a balance change until we reach that baseline. I believe this would allow CCP to actually have more freedom to perform balance adjustments in a meaningful way.
The only issue is that the respect system really has to be automated (and that would mean coding), so that it doesn't eat up a HUGE chunk of resources in dealing with the respects by hand.
I know a lot of people want to point their fingers at Cal Logis and go "HA HA", but quite frankly there is no reason to punish players for using the resources given to them to the best of their ability. It's so important that we move forward together as a community to improve this game.
For me that means Devs communicating to the community changes that they plan BEFORE they are locked in and giving those optional respecs (character or skill specific) to allow both the developers and the community the freedom to test and find the game balance that we are all looking for. Show me logic that supports a valid reason to have SP refunded. I am going to prove you wrong so be ready. Keeping players isn't a logical reason because the game has problems that SP reallocating can't fix.
Think o.0, problem is ccp keep changing stuff. You skill into something, then they change it and the karakter is not what you build anymore. So how you gonna prove that FACT is wrong
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Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:09:00 -
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You ccp lovers need to get the brown of your nose, cus you players are the once ruining this game. Choices have been made , and they where bad choices. Like playing on a pitch black map withouth ir vision. I hope in the future ccp listens to the normal players to. |
Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:24:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Dysnomia Pandora wrote:You ccp lovers need to get the brown of your nose, cus you players are the once ruining this game. Choices have been made , and they where bad choices. Like playing on a pitch black map withouth ir vision. I hope in the future ccp listens to the normal players to. Yeah because the top 5% will continue to pay the bills.
Yeah cus withouth real money you noobcakes cant save up isk for PC. Honestly fck the 5% they dont own the game, withouth real money you guys wont run proto all the time.
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Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
15
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:02:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Dysnomia Pandora wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Dysnomia Pandora wrote:You ccp lovers need to get the brown of your nose, cus you players are the once ruining this game. Choices have been made , and they where bad choices. Like playing on a pitch black map withouth ir vision. I hope in the future ccp listens to the normal players to. Yeah because the top 5% will continue to pay the bills. Yeah cus withouth real money you noobcakes cant save up isk for PC. Honestly fck the 5% they dont own the game, withouth real money you guys wont run proto all the time. i can run proto all the time... and i dont spend monies ... PC kinda pays for its self... i kinda see my self as pretty normal...
Then you are 1 of the real pro's, that knows how the game works. |
Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:26:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Dysnomia Pandora wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:QFT and Logic Kain Spero wrote:Until a real baseline of balance is established and the game's content is filled out I really think that respects should be allowed with each patch or at least a refund of the skills that a directly impacted by a balance change until we reach that baseline. I believe this would allow CCP to actually have more freedom to perform balance adjustments in a meaningful way.
The only issue is that the respect system really has to be automated (and that would mean coding), so that it doesn't eat up a HUGE chunk of resources in dealing with the respects by hand.
I know a lot of people want to point their fingers at Cal Logis and go "HA HA", but quite frankly there is no reason to punish players for using the resources given to them to the best of their ability. It's so important that we move forward together as a community to improve this game.
For me that means Devs communicating to the community changes that they plan BEFORE they are locked in and giving those optional respecs (character or skill specific) to allow both the developers and the community the freedom to test and find the game balance that we are all looking for. Show me logic that supports a valid reason to have SP refunded. I am going to prove you wrong so be ready. Keeping players isn't a logical reason because the game has problems that SP reallocating can't fix. Think o.0, problem is ccp keep changing stuff. You skill into something, then they change it and the karakter is not what you build anymore. So how you gonna prove that FACT is wrong You stil not proven my logic is wrong The changes are not enough to be breaking or cause damage to the intended role. I you built a suit using OP items then you know you did and it is going to hurt. If you built a fitting that was in the role provided by the suit then your game will not change much or at all as far as fittings are concerned. The characters are what you built unless you use broken OP gear. It is a fact that CCP changes things when they want and how they want but it is also a fact that they fix broken items and stay within the role the suit was designed to do. I don't have to prove that fact wrong because it already is or at most only half correct. Next.
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Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:23:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Your statements are half truths at best. I don't have to prove you wrong because you did it for me in your post. The suit viability hasn't changed, they will be able perform their role but they will lose the ability to be what the other suits were intended to be.
Im not only talking suit but gues you cant read english very well. |
Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:36:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Dysnomia Pandora wrote:You ccp lovers need to get the brown of your nose, cus you players are the once ruining this game. Choices have been made , and they where bad choices. Like playing on a pitch black map withouth ir vision. I hope in the future ccp listens to the normal players to. It's actually the players that cry out for bad ideas, then cry some more when their bad ideas aren't given to them. The people you are referring to are the people that understand that this game is different and needs to be completed differently. Not like every other FPS.
I understand this game all to well, and there are lots that do to. Apearantly a big chunk of that has no voice, cus they dont pay for a free game.
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