[BUG] Vehicle armor reps repair 3x what they should https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=90289&find=unread
Status: A defect on this has been reported and a fix planned for in a future update.

* cough * rise of the shield tank? * cough *

Of course the one thing that made armor vehicles viable just happens to be a bug that will be fixed.

Eugh, this game really is Shields 514

I am sure that it is working as intended in the numbers will be change to reflect it. A shadow ninja update, if you will.

Of course the one thing that made armor vehicles viable just happens to be a bug that will be fixed.

Eugh, this game really is Shields 514

CCP has ONE thing right with HAV balance ... and it's a bug they intend to nerf. Typical.

cant wait to be gone
ccp is a ******* joke if they do this
vehicles already in a **** state atm

it's been some fun times in those PCs Mavado. It was fun while it lasted. o/

yup twas fun
where to next?

i dunno man u choose i'm to sad right now.

cant wait to be gone
ccp is a ******* joke if they do this
vehicles already in a **** state atm

well i wont be on lolBF4
PS2? terrible game solo tho :P

I'm gonna say as a career forge gunner I never understood all this complaint about tanks and how easily they're destroyed when personally seen an armor tank take 3 direct hits with my Ishukone forge gun at a 19% damage modifier which includes my one complex damage mod, this destroyed its shields. Then, one direct hit to armor, reload, 4 more hits, reload, and a final 2 more hits all within 200 feet. This included two shots from a merc next to me with a swarmer. All that damage and we only took its armor down to 40%-50% . Then he just repped and that armor went up soo fast it was ridiculous. How in the hell is that not good? This tank drove around like we were just throwing rocks at it. Are you kidding me? You guys must running some low armored tanks. I fear the day when everyone is maxed out on their specs for tanks and did like what thus guy did. Imagaine 3 of those on the field right now. They'd be unstoppable.

Why not BF4 on PS4?

I can't wait to get back in the little bird and take the world number one spot again.

Just as long as there is no Canals type of map where scrubs can get their **** on to make themselves look good.

Get out if you haven't skilled into Armour HAVs.

Typical Infantry newbs.

cant wait to be gone
ccp is a ******* joke if they do this
vehicles already in a **** state atm

ANZAC-ASIA is going to be too silent to enjoying now...

L2P HTFU or GTFO

Why the hell would I skill into HAV's? And why quick to judge as newb just because of what I described? Instead of calling newb, why don't you be so kind as to explain?

Why the hell would I skill into HAV's? And why quick to judge as newb just because of what I described? Instead of calling newb, why don't you be so kind as to explain?

I'm gonna say as a career forge gunner I never understood all this complaint about tanks and how easily they're destroyed when I've personally seen an armor tank take 3 direct hits with my Ishukone forge gun at a 19% damage modifier which includes my one complex damage mod, this destroyed its shields. Then, one direct hit to armor, reload, 4 more hits, reload, and a final 2 more hits all within 200 feet. This included two shots from a merc next to me with a swarmer. All that damage and we only took its armor down to 40%-50% . Then he just repped and that armor went up soo fast it was ridiculous. How in the hell is that not good? This tank drove around like we were just throwing rocks at it. Are you kidding me? You guys must running some low armored tanks. I fear the day when everyone is maxed out on their specs for tanks and did like what thus guy did. Imagaine 3 of those on the field right now. They'd be unstoppable.

I'm gonna say as a career forge gunner I never understood all this complaint about tanks and how easily they're destroyed when I've personally seen an armor tank take 3 direct hits with my Ishukone forge gun at a 19% damage modifier which includes my one complex damage mod, this destroyed its shields. Then, one direct hit to armor, reload, 4 more hits, reload, and a final 2 more hits all within 200 feet. This included two shots from a merc next to me with a swarmer. All that damage and we only took its armor down to 40%-50% . Then he just repped and that armor went up soo fast it was ridiculous. How in the hell is that not good? This tank drove around like we were just throwing rocks at it. Are you kidding me? You guys must running some low armored tanks. I fear the day when everyone is maxed out on their specs for tanks and did like what thus guy did. Imagaine 3 of those on the field right now. They'd be unstoppable.

There's your problem right there. FG against armor? Gimme a break, lol. Try proto Swarms or proto AV nades and then come back complaining how much armor last against AV. It's like complaining how Flux can't take down armor or how AV nades can't take down shields.
I know FG does the same damage to armor and shields but armor tanks usually have way more hp and resistance than shields. I repeat: usually. Not always. So go 2 shot those shields tanks and don't come here complaining how your FG is not effective against armor.

There's your problem right there. FG against armor? Gimme a break, lol. Try proto Swarms or proto AV nades and then come back complaining how much armor last against AV. It's like complaining how Flux can't take down armor or how AV nades can't take down shields.
I know FG does the same damage to armor and shields but armor tanks usually have way more hp and resistance than shields. I repeat: usually. Not always. So go 2 shot those shields tanks and don't come here complaining how your FG is not effective against armor.

You are an optimist. The rest of us have seen how CCP rolls with regards to these types of things.

Although i would really like it if it turns out as you suggest, I am going to brace myself for a total breaking of tanking in general.

lolz @ scrubs sure you weren't using mlt gear. as someone who has both proto forge and proto swarm i can tell u tanks are crap period

I'm gonna say as a career forge gunner I never understood all this complaint about tanks and how easily they're destroyed when I've personally seen an armor tank take 3 direct hits with my Ishukone forge gun at a 19% damage modifier which includes my one complex damage mod, this destroyed its shields. Then, one direct hit to armor, reload, 4 more hits, reload, and a final 2 more hits all within 200 feet. This included two shots from a merc next to me with a swarmer. All that damage and we only took its armor down to 40%-50% . Then he just repped and that armor went up soo fast it was ridiculous. How in the hell is that not good? This tank drove around like we were just throwing rocks at it. Are you kidding me? You guys must running some low armored tanks. I fear the day when everyone is maxed out on their specs for tanks and did like what thus guy did. Imagaine 3 of those on the field right now. They'd be unstoppable.

All of the specced tankers are now maxing out. The best fits have been made, and they can't be improved. Any other fit sucks because it's not the fit.

Every tank is soloable by proto AV. And guess what? The amount of proto AV keeps growing every day. Almost every other game I come across proto forge guns. Although not as much proto swarms, they are easily spamable.

Tankers are stuck at standard level only. We can't improve further. I doubt our numbers are growing, as AV quickly disposes of militia tanks. My railgun Gunnlogi lost about 1/4 shields after killing a Sica which got a few shots on me first until I found his location. Hell, I almost killed a Falchion today in the same manner: he pulls a couple shots on me, I find him, fire back, almost bring him to armor before he retreats and recalls, but that's it's own thread.

Again, I don't know how your situation happened, but trust me when I say that tanks are not fine.

Thanks for not talking crap. All I'm trying to do is get educated based on that incident. Here's my FG stats during that time:

Ishukone Proto FG: direct damage 1663.2 HP
FG Proficiency: 9%
1 Complex Damage Mod: 10%
Total direct hit damage: 1979.2 HP
Total ammo: 13

Please let know how that tank can survive soo many hits. I was watching his armor bar since that tank was soo fricken close. There was no way to miss.

It will be redline sniping FT

Armor will not survive the AV nades let alone swarms and FG with a rep that can only rep 2.5k

Shield will be better because of regen but tanks supporting infantry is all but dead after the change

later guys, il be back when jet fighters are here

Gonna get my Gunnlogi Rail on, yo.

Iv been surviving encounters like the one you describe in my gunlogi. Armoir tanks will have to do what us shield tankers have been up to for a while and adapt or die. 90% im not sitting in the redline but trying to get my tank as close ti the action as posible. It has irratated me the ammount of godlike madrugers out there that were so fotm its not funny but now us shield tankers arw on a levle playing field and I cant wait to fill buckets with maddy tears.

Smug much arse-hole? Armor tanks will still be good for one thing, ramming and I hope the ones they stay remember this post.

This "bug" has been around so long that many people thought it was working as intended, that it was one of the countless changes CCP makes without mentioning it in the patch notes or consulting the community, now with it being fixed a tanks rep will take a full cycle to repair the damage that one volley from a good swarm launcher does.

The viability of armor tanks will cease on this update and I for one will be hanging up my tracks and retiring from dust, between my mouse developing bugs that resemble an intentional nerf, to weapons like lasers being completely ruined I can no longer see a future for myself in this game.

Hopefully this is a miscommunication and they don't intend to completely relegate tanking to redline sniping.

forge does 89% of the damage on armor and 109% on shields, not really even. and yes this is true and rails do the same %'s

the repair rate fix will create a fair environment between armor vs shield tank fights. Although it will cripple armor tanks vs av and for that I do feel bad. The tactic that will be forced upon armor tanks is hit and run. Which you would assume the llavs would have but not in dust Blam loves his lavs.

actually its encouraging redline sniping even more because of the lack of survivability in close combat. either that ow there encouraging every tank driver to quit

lol you guys still don't get it?

stfu and go play a Caldari Assault or Caldari Logi, with an AR, like a good little Duster, and if you have to be a dumbass with a tank, go play a Gunnlogi. lol

Caldari Assault/Logistics + AR. That's what your role should have been from the beginning.

Balance? Logic?
CCP don't give a fk about our balance and logic. lol
How DARE you say something that makes sense! Shame!

Balance.....? lol... Get out of here with that bull shi t.

the repair rate fix will create a fair environment between armor vs shield tank fights. Although it will cripple armor tanks vs av and for that I do feel bad. The tactic that will be forced upon armor tanks is hit and run. Which you would assume the llavs would have but not in dust Blam loves his lavs.