DUST Search - The death of Armor Tanks

ladwar wrote:

MarasdF Loron wrote:

Jake Diesel wrote:

I'm gonna say as a career forge gunner I never understood all this complaint about tanks and how easily they're destroyed when I've personally seen an armor tank take 3 direct hits with my Ishukone forge gun at a 19% damage modifier which includes my one complex damage mod, this destroyed its shields. Then, one direct hit to armor, reload, 4 more hits, reload, and a final 2 more hits all within 200 feet. This included two shots from a merc next to me with a swarmer. All that damage and we only took its armor down to 40%-50% . Then he just repped and that armor went up soo fast it was ridiculous. How in the hell is that not good? This tank drove around like we were just throwing rocks at it. Are you kidding me? You guys must running some low armored tanks. I fear the day when everyone is maxed out on their specs for tanks and did like what thus guy did. Imagaine 3 of those on the field right now. They'd be unstoppable.

There's your problem right there. FG against armor? Gimme a break, lol. Try proto Swarms or proto AV nades and then come back complaining how much armor last against AV. It's like complaining how Flux can't take down armor or how AV nades can't take down shields.
I know FG does the same damage to armor and shields but armor tanks usually have way more hp and resistance than shields. I repeat: usually. Not always. So go 2 shot those shields tanks and don't come here complaining how your FG is not effective against armor.

forge does 89% of the damage on armor and 109% on shields, not really even. and yes this is true and rails do the same %'s

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Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 673	Posted - 2013.07.21 01:18:00 - [61] - Quote lol you guys still don't get it? stfu and go play a Caldari Assault or Caldari Logi, with an AR, like a good little Duster, and if you have to be a dumbass with a tank, go play a Gunnlogi. lol Caldari Assault/Logistics + AR. That's what your role should have been from the beginning. Balance? Logic? CCP don't give a fk about our balance and logic. lol How DARE you say something that makes sense! Shame! Balance.....? lol... Get out of here with that bull shi t.
MarasdF Loron Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 3	Posted - 2013.07.21 03:51:00 - [62] - Quote ladwar wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Jake Diesel wrote: I'm gonna say as a career forge gunner I never understood all this complaint about tanks and how easily they're destroyed when I've personally seen an armor tank take 3 direct hits with my Ishukone forge gun at a 19% damage modifier which includes my one complex damage mod, this destroyed its shields. Then, one direct hit to armor, reload, 4 more hits, reload, and a final 2 more hits all within 200 feet. This included two shots from a merc next to me with a swarmer. All that damage and we only took its armor down to 40%-50% . Then he just repped and that armor went up soo fast it was ridiculous. How in the hell is that not good? This tank drove around like we were just throwing rocks at it. Are you kidding me? You guys must running some low armored tanks. I fear the day when everyone is maxed out on their specs for tanks and did like what thus guy did. Imagaine 3 of those on the field right now. They'd be unstoppable. There's your problem right there. FG against armor? Gimme a break, lol. Try proto Swarms or proto AV nades and then come back complaining how much armor last against AV. It's like complaining how Flux can't take down armor or how AV nades can't take down shields. I know FG does the same damage to armor and shields but armor tanks usually have way more hp and resistance than shields. I repeat: usually. Not always. So go 2 shot those shields tanks and don't come here complaining how your FG is not effective against armor. forge does 89% of the damage on armor and 109% on shields, not really even. and yes this is true and rails do the same %'s Alright, my bad.
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 790	Posted - 2013.07.21 04:05:00 - [63] - Quote lets just face it, CCP doesn't give a ** about anyone but infantry that whine about not one shotting everything, even the AV players agree with us that tanks are badly UP...... back in chromosome was the closets we ever got to perfect balance but in uprising theyv just thrown it all away because the infantry guys kept whining that they couldn't one shot everything...... iv been doing this for far too long..... too many arguments all to be taken down by CCP giving the infantry what they want and never giving us what we need.... im done with this **..
Cy Clone1 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 146	Posted - 2013.07.21 04:06:00 - [64] - Quote the repair rate fix will create a fair environment between armor vs shield tank fights. Although it will cripple armor tanks vs av and for that I do feel bad. The tactic that will be forced upon armor tanks is hit and run. Which you would assume the llavs would have but not in dust Blam loves his lavs.
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 790	Posted - 2013.07.21 04:11:00 - [65] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: the repair rate fix will create a fair environment between armor vs shield tank fights. Although it will cripple armor tanks vs av and for that I do feel bad. The tactic that will be forced upon armor tanks is hit and run. Which you would assume the llavs would have but not in dust Blam loves his lavs. actually its encouraging redline sniping even more because of the lack of survivability in close combat. either that or there encouraging every tank driver to quit
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 143	Posted - 2013.07.21 04:15:00 - [66] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Cy Clone1 wrote: the repair rate fix will create a fair environment between armor vs shield tank fights. Although it will cripple armor tanks vs av and for that I do feel bad. The tactic that will be forced upon armor tanks is hit and run. Which you would assume the llavs would have but not in dust Blam loves his lavs. actually its encouraging redline sniping even more because of the lack of survivability in close combat. either that ow there encouraging every tank driver to quit Pushing us to the redline where things don't render past 200m. So we can't even rail gun snipe properly. Their next step will be banning tank drivers from the forums after we show everyone just how useless that that have made us. Scratch that when we leave the game all together and the only vehicles on the field are militia LAVs people won't have to worry about posts like this-because we won't be here to put up with this BS any longer.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 311	Posted - 2013.07.21 04:18:00 - [67] - Quote Jathniel wrote: lol you guys still don't get it? stfu and go play a Caldari Assault or Caldari Logi, with an AR, like a good little Duster, and if you have to be a dumbass with a tank, go play a Gunnlogi. lol Caldari Assault/Logistics + AR. That's what your role should have been from the beginning. Balance? Logic? CCP don't give a fk about our balance and logic. lol How DARE you say something that makes sense! Shame! Balance.....? lol... Get out of here with that bull shi t. Who let this ass.. I mean Callogi-assault... in here?
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 311	Posted - 2013.07.21 04:25:00 - [68] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: the repair rate fix will create a fair environment between armor vs shield tank fights. Although it will cripple armor tanks vs av and for that I do feel bad. The tactic that will be forced upon armor tanks is hit and run. Which you would assume the llavs would have but not in dust Blam loves his lavs. Sorry for double posting in advance. The funny thing is that I thought Caldari HAVs were meant for hit and run while Gallente HAVs were meant for taking on the punishment.
BLACK JACK 21 Ninth Legion Freelance 1	Posted - 2013.07.21 04:34:00 - [69] - Quote BULL****!!!!!!!
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 3	Posted - 2013.07.21 05:53:00 - [70] - Quote Hello Blackjack. Just wanted to say, try something new, a hybrid tank. Put shields on an armor tank and vice versa. A solution to tanking problems is variety. We only have 2 types of tanks, standard and enforcer. We only have 2 variations of each, gallente and caldari. We should have a breach HAV or another variation. We should also have amarr and minmatar. There should be more variety. People are getting used to the same tanks, so it's the same strategy to take it out. Being a vehicle driver should be the same as being infantry, only bigger and better. The difference: price and SP. That's just my two cents.

Beld Errmon D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 743	Posted - 2013.07.21 08:24:00 - [71] - Quote Ridiculous CCP this topic doesn't belong in tech support, Im not reporting a bug I'm making a statement and engaging in general discussion, but we all know the sub forums are where topics go to die, so no doubt you just want this topic to die as well.
Commander Tzu L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2013.07.21 08:25:00 - [72] - Quote I agree that this "fix" will help with shield vs armor tank balance but it will be leaving armor tanks to contend with proto AVs coming from everywhere. I run both shield and armor tanks and I would rather have shield tanks buffed to be on par with the armor tanks now to help with tank vs tank fights while leaving both with defenses against the ever growing pool of proto AV weapons. Either that or reduce the price of tanks dramatically to reflect the fact CCP seems to think they are less of an investment now and in line with the more "expendable" dropsuits.


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