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Beld Errmon D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 734	Posted - 2013.07.20 13:35:00 - [1] - Quote Quote: [BUG] Vehicle armor reps repair 3x what they should https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=90289&find=unread Status: A defect on this has been reported and a fix planned for in a future update. This "bug" has been around so long that many people thought it was working as intended, that it was one of the countless changes CCP makes without mentioning it in the patch notes or consulting the community, now with it being fixed a tanks rep will take a full cycle to repair the damage that one volley from a good swarm launcher does. The viability of armor tanks will cease on this update and I for one will be hanging up my tracks and retiring from dust, between my mouse developing bugs that resemble an intentional nerf, to weapons like lasers being completely ruined I can no longer see a future for myself in this game. Hopefully this is a miscommunication and they don't intend to completely relegate tanking to redline sniping.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1958	Posted - 2013.07.20 13:36:00 - [2] - Quote Silly Beld, All tanks are for red line sniping, I'm pretty sure a lot of us signed a treaty about it.
Beld Errmon D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 735	Posted - 2013.07.20 13:42:00 - [3] - Quote lol considering 2 redline sniper tanks wouldn't be able to render far enough to see each other, you don't need to sign a treaty CCP did it for us.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1443	Posted - 2013.07.20 13:48:00 - [4] - Quote It will be redline sniping FT Armor will not survive the AV nades let alone swarms and FG with a rep that can only rep 2.5k Shield will be better because of regen but tanks supporting infantry is all but dead after the change
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 76	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:02:00 - [5] - Quote No way, this can't be true surely.
BatKing Deltor Granite Mercenary Division 137	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:05:00 - [6] - Quote * cough * rise of the shield tank? * cough *
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1443	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:15:00 - [7] - Quote BatKing Deltor wrote: * cough * rise of the shield tank? * cough * Not really It will have an advantage but the less armor tanks are seen maybe more FG may turn up but in general adv/proto AV can still take of chunks of shield
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 890	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:17:00 - [8] - Quote Of course the one thing that made armor vehicles viable just happens to be a bug that will be fixed. Eugh, this game really is Shields 514
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2192	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:19:00 - [9] - Quote CCP has ONE thing right with HAV balance ... and it's a bug they intend to nerf. Typical.
Cosgar ParagonX 2876	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:24:00 - [10] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Of course the one thing that made armor vehicles viable just happens to be a bug that will be fixed. Eugh, this game really is Shields 514 More like infantry 514. People with AV nades are going to have a field day.

Mary Sedillo BetaMax. CRONOS. 155	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:25:00 - [11] - Quote I am sure that it is working as intended in the numbers will be change to reflect it. A shadow ninja update, if you will.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 450	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:26:00 - [12] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: I am sure that it is working as intended in the numbers will be change to reflect it. A shadow ninja update, if you will. You are an optimist. The rest of us have seen how CCP rolls with regards to these types of things. Although i would really like it if it turns out as you suggest, I am going to brace myself for a total breaking of tanking in general.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Not Guilty EoN. 52	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:31:00 - [13] - Quote Well if they can truly F* over tanks that badly then i'm sure they'll get a buff...unless...they plan to make them like my dropships....Oh you guys are f*ed.
Mary Sedillo BetaMax. CRONOS. 155	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:40:00 - [14] - Quote I am going to be honest, the current repper rate is really what allows us to keep up with... well anything to be honest. AV would steamroll us. Even standard would laugh with glee and we would be able to do nothing but hide in the hills.... It will be like Chromosome all over again.... :.(
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:57:00 - [15] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Of course the one thing that made armor vehicles viable just happens to be a bug that will be fixed. Eugh, this game really is Shields 514 my hardeners say otherwise. GG pal. but seriously it's ben along so long i thought it was suppose to be like tht. :( either way armor would still beat shield tanks due to its higher repping speed. but it would be destroyed by AV do to its lower EHP. TBH without the higher repping speed Armor tanks will probably go extinct. so buff shied reppers.
Blammmo Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 151	Posted - 2013.07.20 14:58:00 - [16] - Quote If they actually nerf the repper, I'd call it quits on tanking. Of course I'd ocassionaly bust out the glass cannon from time to time for some boring ass redline action!
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 338	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:14:00 - [17] - Quote Instead of buffing shield tanks, they nerf armor tanks, the repper coupled with the hardeners is the only thing that keep armor tanks a little more alive in a world of explosive damages and Proto AV vs STD tanks. At least not let damage modifiers affect AV vehicle weapons.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3880	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:21:00 - [18] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: CCP has ONE thing right with HAV balance ... and it's a bug they intend to nerf. Typical. cant wait to be gone ccp is a ***** joke if they do this vehicles already in a ** state atm
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:23:00 - [19] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP has ONE thing right with HAV balance ... and it's a bug they intend to nerf. Typical. cant wait to be gone ccp is a ***** joke if they do this vehicles already in a ** state atm it's been some fun times in those PCs Mavado. It was fun while it lasted. o/
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3880	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:28:00 - [20] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP has ONE thing right with HAV balance ... and it's a bug they intend to nerf. Typical. cant wait to be gone ccp is a ***** joke if they do this vehicles already in a ** state atm it's been some fun times in those PCs Mavado. It was fun while it lasted. o/ yup twas fun where to next?

RKKR The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 265	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:35:00 - [21] - Quote ANZAC-ASIA is going to be too silent to enjoying now...
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:38:00 - [22] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP has ONE thing right with HAV balance ... and it's a bug they intend to nerf. Typical. cant wait to be gone ccp is a ***** joke if they do this vehicles already in a ** state atm it's been some fun times in those PCs Mavado. It was fun while it lasted. o/ yup twas fun where to next? i dunno man u choose i'm to sad right now.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3880	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:41:00 - [23] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP has ONE thing right with HAV balance ... and it's a bug they intend to nerf. Typical. cant wait to be gone ccp is a ***** joke if they do this vehicles already in a ** state atm it's been some fun times in those PCs Mavado. It was fun while it lasted. o/ yup twas fun where to next? i dunno man u choose i'm to sad right now. well i wont be on lolBF4 PS2? terrible game solo tho :P
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 226	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:51:00 - [24] - Quote All the pilots could just go over there. I heard FF14 was going to be good...
Noc Tempre Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2197	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:51:00 - [25] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: CCP has ONE thing right with HAV balance ... and it's a bug they intend to nerf. Typical. cant wait to be gone ccp is a ***** joke if they do this vehicles already in a ** state atm No joke, but you should spend a day playing PS2 with me. Add Firestorm_65 on steam if you are game.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 451	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:57:00 - [26] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: well i wont be on lolBF4 PS2? terrible game solo tho :P Why not BF4 on PS4? I can't wait to get back in the little bird and take the world number one spot again. Just as long as there is no Canals type of map where scrubs can get their **** on to make themselves look good.
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 12	Posted - 2013.07.20 16:18:00 - [27] - Quote O i know. Battlefront. Dice version.
Jake Diesel The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 4	Posted - 2013.07.20 16:43:00 - [28] - Quote I'm gonna say as a career forge gunner I never understood all this complaint about tanks and how easily they're destroyed when I've personally seen an armor tank take 3 direct hits with my Ishukone forge gun at a 19% damage modifier which includes my one complex damage mod, this destroyed its shields. Then, one direct hit to armor, reload, 4 more hits, reload, and a final 2 more hits all within 200 feet. This included two shots from a merc next to me with a swarmer. All that damage and we only took its armor down to 40%-50% . Then he just repped and that armor went up soo fast it was ridiculous. How in the hell is that not good? This tank drove around like we were just throwing rocks at it. Are you kidding me? You guys must running some low armored tanks. I fear the day when everyone is maxed out on their specs for tanks and did like what thus guy did. Imagaine 3 of those on the field right now. They'd be unstoppable.
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1357	Posted - 2013.07.20 16:44:00 - [29] - Quote Jake Diesel wrote: I'm gonna say as a career forge gunner I never understood all this complaint about tanks and how easily they're destroyed when personally seen an armor tank take 3 direct hits with my Ishukone forge gun at a 19% damage modifier which includes my one complex damage mod, this destroyed its shields. Then, one direct hit to armor, reload, 4 more hits, reload, and a final 2 more hits all within 200 feet. This included two shots from a merc next to me with a swarmer. All that damage and we only took its armor down to 40%-50% . Then he just repped and that armor went up soo fast it was ridiculous. How in the hell is that not good? This tank drove around like we were just throwing rocks at it. Are you kidding me? You guys must running some low armored tanks. I fear the day when everyone is maxed out on their specs for tanks and did like what thus guy did. Imagaine 3 of those on the field right now. They'd be unstoppable. Get out if you haven't skilled into Armour HAVs. Typical Infantry newbs.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1444	Posted - 2013.07.20 16:48:00 - [30] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: well i wont be on lolBF4 PS2? terrible game solo tho :P Why not BF4 on PS4? I can't wait to get back in the little bird and take the world number one spot again. Just as long as there is no Canals type of map where scrubs can get their ** on to make themselves look good. lolBF4 Little bird was good at the start of BF3 then for some reason all the handling went to ** and i have problems keeping it up in the air without it spazing out In fact BF3 had all vehicles nerfed quite badly because infantry as usual couldnt kill with an AR Last night instant disable with an RPG down to 48% health with reactive armor on while stingers cover half of the map and instantly disable anything in the air because heli is OP against idiots



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