It probably has something to do with having the usefulness of their shield extender skill suddenly lowered, and suddenly needing to skill into regulators to make use of their suits bonus.

Not to mention that they won't know if CCP intends to keep these bonuses upon switching to more logistics based bonuses, and with everyone at CCP laughing at new players who struggle to grasp this stuff as is, it's not too hard to see why people might be upset.

I'm used to CCP ******** on my dreams, so it doesn't bother me.

in a game where you can make any suit play any role, people tend to not like it when suits are literally forced to play one type of roll. Especially one that a lot of people speced heavily into.

Oh hey, you see that heavy suit, and how you can swap out for the HMG for a light weapon? yup, remove that so you're forced to only use heavy weapons. ( I would not doubt that this would happen at some point in time because of the new command suit)


You see that scout suit? yea, it's not a front line soldier, so we took away any tank you could mod it with. We like it when they cant fight in hectic battles.


oh hey, we nerfed the logi suits so they do les killing, and more healing. If you do more killing, and less healing in the future, we'll probably further balance it so that does not happen ;)

I plan on doing plenty of killing with the cal logistics suit when I get it. Damn thing screams front line demolitions and spotter as well as combat medic. Good mix of speed and extremely low down tie and an ability to fit a comfortable tank is quite useful for this round of changes still.

Yet the bonuses of the extenders get from skills is still there and still applies, same for regulators.

It probably has something to do with having the usefulness of their shield extender skill suddenly lowered, and suddenly needing to skill into regulators to make use of their suits bonus.

Not to mention that they won't know if CCP intends to keep these bonuses upon switching to more logistics based bonuses, and with everyone at CCP laughing at new players who struggle to grasp this stuff as is, it's not too hard to see why people might be upset.

I'm used to CCP ******** on my dreams, so it doesn't bother me.

in a game where you can make any suit play any role, people tend to not like it when suits are literally forced to play one type of roll. Especially one that a lot of people speced heavily into said suit.

Oh hey, you see that heavy suit, and how you can swap out for the HMG for a light weapon? yup, we'll remove that so you're forced to only use heavy weapons. ( I would not doubt that this would happen at some point in time because of the new command suit)


You see that scout suit? yea, it's not a front line soldier, so we took away any tank you could mod it with. We like it when they cant fight in hectic battles.


oh hey, we nerfed the logi suits so they do les killing, and more healing. If you do more killing, and less healing in the future, we'll probably further balance it so that does not happen ;)

I honestly don't see what the **** people's bitchin about. They KNEW it was broken, and WOULD be fixed to do combat medic (and apperantly, quite effectively so), but they STILL chose to do that bullshit, and now they are going to ***** and moan about it? Now that's a damn shame.


Peace, Aizen

Caldari Logistic Suits are still so freaking useful after this planned and the upcoming adjustment afterwards. I mean I don't see why you would not want to use the suit afterwards for keeping a squad well supplied, up and ready, and good to go.

A facilitator of war if you will...

I also find it that the Caldari Assault is probably no longer going to be considered the worst Assault suit anymore.

But as a guy that plays every role dunno what all the crying is about.

Caldari Logistic Suits are still so freaking useful after this planned and the upcoming adjustment afterwards. I mean I don't see why you would not want to use the suit afterwards for keeping a squad well supplied, up and ready, and good to go.

A facilitator of war if you will...

I also find it that the Caldari Assault is probably no longer going to be considered the worst Assault suit anymore.

But as a guy that plays every role dunno what all the crying is about.

What I'm saying is that some people like myself plan their builds meticulously. They plan out every CPU, PG, module and skill. When suddenly you go and shuffle it all around, some people might be hit harder than others. Some people may only have extenders, and now they find that their shields are much weaker (even more so if they're attempting to be at true logi bro). If they were building their suit around the old bonuses, as many players did (keep in mind that a good chunk of players NEVER come to these forums, and just play the game with what minimal information they are given) then they may not have any points in regulators.

Suddenly their bonus no longer applies to what they had skilled into, and are told to muster up however many SP it is to get regulators to 5 to take advantage of that bonus (which while good, is less good since recharge delay went up on logis). Also keep in mind that this is a different style of play, a more movement oriented one since you tank through your recharge instead of your HP.

It's kind of arrogant to assume that everyone who chose Caldari logi did it because it was OP and the knew, and it's also arrogant to assume that people shouldn't be upset by having their work and decisions negated without any means to alter those choices.

I'm used to this kind of treatment, I'm honestly surprised some of the others aren't.

I'm just trying to say that there are two sides to the story, and it's wrong to assume everyone is in the same boat just because they picked the same suit.

(please note that I'm not a logi, but I've been around long enough to know how this goes)

What I'm saying is that some people like myself plan their builds meticulously. They plan out every CPU, PG, module and skill. When suddenly you go and shuffle it all around, some people might be hit harder than others. Some people may only have extenders, and now they find that their shields are much weaker (even more so if they're attempting to be at true logi bro). If they were building their suit around the old bonuses, as many players did (keep in mind that a good chunk of players NEVER come to these forums, and just play the game with what minimal information they are given) then they may not have any points in regulators.

Suddenly their bonus no longer applies to what they had skilled into, and are told to muster up however many SP it is to get regulators to 5 to take advantage of that bonus (which while good, is less good since recharge delay went up on logis). Also keep in mind that this is a different style of play, a more movement oriented one since you tank through your recharge instead of your HP.

It's kind of arrogant to assume that everyone who chose Caldari logi did it because it was OP and the knew, and it's also arrogant to assume that people shouldn't be upset by having their work and decisions negated without any means to alter those choices.

I'm used to this kind of treatment, I'm honestly surprised some of the others aren't.

I'm just trying to say that there are two sides to the story, and it's wrong to assume everyone is in the same boat just because they picked the same suit.

(please note that I'm not a logi, but I've been around long enough to know how this goes)

In many Amarrian vessels, a creature known as a Fedo is used to clean ships, both on the inside and outside. They are pretty much mobile garbage disposals. They are quite primitive, produce highly irritating fumes that smell like rot, and only live a couple of weeks.
There is a known illness for male Fedo's though, that causes them to screech loudly continuously. The only way to make them stop is to kill them. The main cause of this disease is when they are moved from one type of environment to another suddenly.
Some biologist have suggested that it isn't a disease though. More in less the creature is disturbed from sudden changes or the inability to adapt quickly enough to a new environment.
Whatever the cause may be, CCP better tread lightly, or a lot of Fedo's will have to be put down.

Btw its minmatar, Amarrians use minmatar to clean ships Minmatar use Fedos. Though I have to say the gallente advertising campaign with fedo lady was by far the strangest.

I plan on doing plenty of killing with the cal logistics suit when I get it. Damn thing screams front line demolitions and spotter as well as combat medic. Good mix of speed and extremely low down tie and an ability to fit a comfortable tank is quite useful for this round of changes still.

What I'm saying is that some people like myself plan their builds meticulously. They plan out every CPU, PG, module and skill. When suddenly you go and shuffle it all around, some people might be hit harder than others. Some people may only have extenders, and now they find that their shields are much weaker (even more so if they're attempting to be at true logi bro). If they were building their suit around the old bonuses, as many players did (keep in mind that a good chunk of players NEVER come to these forums, and just play the game with what minimal information they are given) then they may not have any points in regulators.

Suddenly their bonus no longer applies to what they had skilled into, and are told to muster up however many SP it is to get regulators to 5 to take advantage of that bonus (which while good, is less good since recharge delay went up on logis). Also keep in mind that this is a different style of play, a more movement oriented one since you tank through your recharge instead of your HP.

It's kind of arrogant to assume that everyone who chose Caldari logi did it because it was OP and the knew, and it's also arrogant to assume that people shouldn't be upset by having their work and decisions negated without any means to alter those choices.

I'm used to this kind of treatment, I'm honestly surprised some of the others aren't.

I'm just trying to say that there are two sides to the story, and it's wrong to assume everyone is in the same boat just because they picked the same suit.

(please note that I'm not a logi, but I've been around long enough to know how this goes)