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Exmaple Core
Who Gives A Flux
569
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:37:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:OZAROW wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Who else likes to live with the decisions they make? Lol, the irony.
"The horror, the horror" 2 points to whoever figures out where that's a quote from! Was it the players who speced into the cal logi's decision to have their class nerfed? if CCP told everyone their class they spent SP on was getting nerfed later than it would have been their decision. But they dident. It was not their decision to pick a class that was going to be altered into something different than what the orginally choose. Its no longer what they signed up for. They should be respeced out of it What the hell ever bro try being a scout in this game that can't run or jump like before! Man up an take it, I got 14 mill in a suit that's broke weapons included an still pull 15-20 kills on good matches with broken knoves! You really mad that you am everyone else turned a logistics into a god powered assault an you really never thought "geez this is so op they'll never fix it"! Lmfao man get real an be honest wit urself! woooow you dident touch my statement at all! sucks that you play a bad class, i play tank and do not have a cal logi. And yeah buttmad, i completely agree tha cal logi was OP, at what point was i "really mad that you am everyone else turned a logistics into a god powered assault an you really never thought ''geex this is so op they'll never fix it!''? please point out were i said that :) But ill point out were i said that their class is no longer what they originally skilled in for. It is not right to change what they are out of the blue and expect them to enjoy playing it. It is no longer the class they wanted. So, let them respec out of something that was changed without their consent. They dont want to play it anymore
Sooo its your guys petition. Gona defend it from ppl like me who think those screwed over by class changes should have the right to play something they enjoy playing?
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
611
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:41:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Who else likes to live with the decisions they make? Lol, the irony.
"The horror, the horror" 2 points to whoever figures out where that's a quote from! Was it the players who speced into the cal logi's decision to have their class nerfed? if CCP told everyone their class they spent SP on was getting nerfed later than it would have been their decision. But they dident. It was not their decision to pick a class that was going to be altered into something different than what the orginally choose. Its no longer what they signed up for. They should be respeced out of it
1.) Its losing 100 shields...... Big deal! you still have the other 585 HP. 2.) It doesn't take a lot to look at a suit like that and go "hmmmm maybe that's a bit overpowered and will get nerfed later on" 3.) we've already had 2 respecs...... if you decided to spec into that suit twice then that's your fault, not the DEVS.
This isn't like the 2nd respec where people got it due to literal mislabeling. You specced into a LOGISTICS suit, play it like a LOGISTICS SUIT. If you specced into that with the intentions of being a pseudo Assault then its your problem that you can't play with it that way anymore, Not CCP's. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:41:00 -
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+1 for No Respecs
People need to understand that respecs in Dust aren't necessary. You have them in every RPG because the amount of Skillpoints is limited. In Dust however it isn't. Given enough time you can skill every single skill to level 5.
Quote:if CCP told everyone their class they spent SP on was getting nerfed later than it would have been their decision.
Seriously? You seriously thought it would never be nerfed? Wake up. The Boni aren't even final. It was OBVIOUS that the Suit will be changed. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
179
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:49:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:+1 for No Respecs
People need to understand that respecs in Dust aren't necessary. You have them in every RPG because the amount of Skillpoints is limited. In Dust however it isn't. Given enough time you can skill every single skill to level 5.
But it's too haaaard!
I won't be competitive unless ALL my skills are at max level right nao!!!!
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Exmaple Core
Who Gives A Flux
569
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:50:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Who else likes to live with the decisions they make? Lol, the irony.
"The horror, the horror" 2 points to whoever figures out where that's a quote from! Was it the players who speced into the cal logi's decision to have their class nerfed? if CCP told everyone their class they spent SP on was getting nerfed later than it would have been their decision. But they dident. It was not their decision to pick a class that was going to be altered into something different than what the orginally choose. Its no longer what they signed up for. They should be respeced out of it 1.) Its losing 100 shields...... Big deal! you still have the other 585 HP. 2.) It doesn't take a lot to look at a suit like that and go "hmmmm maybe that's a bit overpowered and will get nerfed later on" 3.) we've already had 2 respecs...... if you decided to spec into that suit twice then that's your fault, not the DEVS. This isn't like the 2nd respec where people got it due to literal mislabeling. You specced into a LOGISTICS suit, play it like a LOGISTICS SUIT. If you specced into that with the intentions of being a pseudo Assault then its your problem that you can't play with it that way anymore, Not CCP's.
No, that is CCPs fault. Like you said, it is "A LOGISTICS SUIT" and it sure was when it was given to us. Lots of PG/CPU to fit all 3 or 4 equipment slots and some slots to fit support items like dampeners, code breakers and scanners, the like. Had enough combat suitability to support itself and stick around long enough to use all of the logi goodies its packen. OP? hell yeah it is! but CCP gave us that suit and ppl were like "yes, this is what i want to do. i want to do all that." now they cant. Its no longer the class they speced into, and they dont want to play the way the class forces them to now. It is not fun to them. So, with their class changed, they should be able to spec out of it and play how they want to play. Do you disagree, that they should stay in a class that was changed and no longer enjoy? it wasent their fualt CCP changed it. now their hating dust |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
611
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Posted - 2013.07.19 19:44:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Who else likes to live with the decisions they make? Lol, the irony.
"The horror, the horror" 2 points to whoever figures out where that's a quote from! Was it the players who speced into the cal logi's decision to have their class nerfed? if CCP told everyone their class they spent SP on was getting nerfed later than it would have been their decision. But they dident. It was not their decision to pick a class that was going to be altered into something different than what the orginally choose. Its no longer what they signed up for. They should be respeced out of it 1.) Its losing 100 shields...... Big deal! you still have the other 585 HP. 2.) It doesn't take a lot to look at a suit like that and go "hmmmm maybe that's a bit overpowered and will get nerfed later on" 3.) we've already had 2 respecs...... if you decided to spec into that suit twice then that's your fault, not the DEVS. This isn't like the 2nd respec where people got it due to literal mislabeling. You specced into a LOGISTICS suit, play it like a LOGISTICS SUIT. If you specced into that with the intentions of being a pseudo Assault then its your problem that you can't play with it that way anymore, Not CCP's. No, that is CCPs fault. Like you said, it is "A LOGISTICS SUIT" and it sure was when it was given to us. Lots of PG/CPU to fit all 3 or 4 equipment slots and some slots to fit support items like dampeners, code breakers and scanners, the like. Had enough combat suitability to support itself and stick around long enough to use all of the logi goodies its packen. OP? hell yeah it is! but CCP gave us that suit and ppl were like "yes, this is what i want to do. i want to do all that." now they cant. Its no longer the class they speced into, and they dont want to play the way the class forces them to now. It is not fun to them. So, with their class changed, they should be able to spec out of it and play how they want to play. Do you disagree, that they should stay in a class that was changed and no longer enjoy? it wasent their fualt CCP changed it. now their hating dust
1.) it can still fulfill all the roles you mentioned. it lost 20 CPU..... you got 4 low slots so slam a CPU mod in if its that bad. Your acting like they broke the suit, they took (at maximum depending on your fit) 90 HP away with 20 CPU. Do you know what that means? WHOA Your suit can have less HP then the ASSAULT version of their suit! Crazy right? Go figure..... 2.) Sorry if the people who wanted to do everything in ONE suit cant do it all anymore..... 1st world problems right? |
Vethosis
Eir Gaming
617
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Posted - 2013.07.19 19:48:00 -
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the reason i want a respec is because i'm bored of this forge gun. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
611
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Posted - 2013.07.19 19:48:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:kiro of justice wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Marston VC wrote:Who else likes to live with the decisions they make? Lol, the irony.
"The horror, the horror" 2 points to whoever figures out where that's a quote from! i already do that trash in real life....now i have to do it in a video game? -1 Dumbass...That was a main marketing point for this game. Remember? They had trailers and Dev interviews about it? Yeah... well that is true.......but ccp keeps smashing our toys man...you skill into something...and next thing you know they turn it into trash.... im an amarr logi that uses the scram rifle.....and im telling as of right now....this stuff isnt working to well at all.
Well good news for you! The amar logi is getting a pretty good buff this upcoming patch! And I mean..... running the SR on that suit really shouldn't be "tough" if your doing it right..... I run an SR on a gallente Logi and I do great! |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
611
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Posted - 2013.07.19 19:50:00 -
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Vethosis wrote:the reason i want a respec is because i'm bored of this forge gun.
ehhhh do you not have a gun other then the forge gun? |
Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
62
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Posted - 2013.07.19 19:50:00 -
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Marston VC wrote: Well good news for you! The amar logi is getting a pretty good buff this upcoming patch! And I mean..... running the SR on that suit really shouldn't be "tough" if your doing it right..... I run an SR on a gallente Logi and I do great!
Let's wait till crybaby make nerf my logi suit now that gone from UP to Balanced. |
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood
611
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Posted - 2013.07.19 19:53:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:Pocket Rocket Girl wrote:Didn't CCP say something about Risk vs. Reward ? Well people who took the risk of ordering the FOTM get the reward of eating the same dish all day every day. I used to be Cal logi before uprising but.... now i glad i switched into min logi and i don't regret it one bit :) You don't regret one bit that if let's say you run an advanced Min logi suit you've lost major advantages you had over Amarr adv logi suits? That your balanced 3/3/3 high/low/equip slots are now shared by a suit that also has a higher native shield/armor and also can carry a sidearm?
You get more Equipment slots at the proto level, and your suit is overall faster, and has an extra high slot on the proto level. The Amar logi might have more base health, but it has one less equipment and high slot. With the addition of the sidearm I would say that this suit is the closest to being an "assault logi" now. But maybe that's just me? |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
127
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Posted - 2013.07.19 19:57:00 -
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im with you bro deal with the fact that you cant get your way you crying babies now let the real gun game rain hell on you fools. btw marston ready my post on this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=95803&find=unread |
BIind Shot
killa clones
4
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:01:00 -
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+1. They should of never respected the first time. You do something once and your expected to do it till you die. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
611
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:03:00 -
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I look at CCP like a bunch of semi-kind parents. They wronged the kids early on and were like "ok ok, were sorry will buy you kids a couple popsicles to make up for it" Then the kids start demanding more popsicles because there like "hey you kind of did this wrong too right????" and the parents just turn around and go "F no, you aint getting more freebies kid" and then I stand in the corner by myself thinking about how I never once asked for the popsicle, but was happy when I did get one! |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
196
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:07:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Who else likes to live with the decisions they make? Lol, the irony.
"The horror, the horror" 2 points to whoever figures out where that's a quote from! Was it the players who speced into the cal logi's decision to have their class nerfed? if CCP told everyone their class they spent SP on was getting nerfed later than it would have been their decision. But they dident. It was not their decision to pick a class that was going to be altered into something different than what the orginally choose. Its no longer what they signed up for. They should be respeced out of it 1.) Its losing 100 shields...... Big deal! you still have the other 585 HP. 2.) It doesn't take a lot to look at a suit like that and go "hmmmm maybe that's a bit overpowered and will get nerfed later on" 3.) we've already had 2 respecs...... if you decided to spec into that suit twice then that's your fault, not the DEVS. This isn't like the 2nd respec where people got it due to literal mislabeling. You specced into a LOGISTICS suit, play it like a LOGISTICS SUIT. If you specced into that with the intentions of being a pseudo Assault then its your problem that you can't play with it that way anymore, Not CCP's. No, that is CCPs fault. Like you said, it is "A LOGISTICS SUIT" and it sure was when it was given to us. Lots of PG/CPU to fit all 3 or 4 equipment slots and some slots to fit support items like dampeners, code breakers and scanners, the like. Had enough combat suitability to support itself and stick around long enough to use all of the logi goodies its packen. OP? hell yeah it is! but CCP gave us that suit and ppl were like "yes, this is what i want to do. i want to do all that." now they cant. Its no longer the class they speced into, and they dont want to play the way the class forces them to now. It is not fun to them. So, with their class changed, they should be able to spec out of it and play how they want to play. Do you disagree, that they should stay in a class that was changed and no longer enjoy? it wasent their fualt CCP changed it. now their hating dust It is called a logistic suit! If you want code breakers why didn't you go minmatar? If you want profile dampeners why not scout? I ll tell you why, cuz you knew it was a golden goose an so did everyone else! Just like the op AR bet you have one of those too an a faylock. You wanna cry respec for your suit only but yet say nothing to back your argument but say nothing about scout suits or heavies? My shotty sucks knives suck yet I still do well an cant run or jump an now have a hit box that increases in size the faster I move so cry babies can actually spray an pray with a proficiency damage of 5 an kill me with 4 bullets with zero accuracy an your crying cuz your actually a logistic now not a crazy assault with speed mods hacking mods dampeners damage mod, bombs, scanners an uplinks, probably not even running logistics gear? Face it you had a killer assault suit with way too much gear that backed a assault play style ! Take the hit actually get a assault suit now or finally start spec n into logistic equipment an kno ur role foo! |
ShinyJay
Destruction Reapers The Superpowers
5
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:16:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Who else likes to live with the decisions they make? Lol, the irony.
"The horror, the horror" 2 points to whoever figures out where that's a quote from! Was it the players who speced into the cal logi's decision to have their class nerfed? if CCP told everyone their class they spent SP on was getting nerfed later than it would have been their decision. But they dident. It was not their decision to pick a class that was going to be altered into something different than what the orginally choose. Its no longer what they signed up for. They should be respeced out of it 1.) Its losing 100 shields...... Big deal! you still have the other 585 HP. 2.) It doesn't take a lot to look at a suit like that and go "hmmmm maybe that's a bit overpowered and will get nerfed later on" 3.) we've already had 2 respecs...... if you decided to spec into that suit twice then that's your fault, not the DEVS. This isn't like the 2nd respec where people got it due to literal mislabeling. You specced into a LOGISTICS suit, play it like a LOGISTICS SUIT. If you specced into that with the intentions of being a pseudo Assault then its your problem that you can't play with it that way anymore, Not CCP's. No, that is CCPs fault. Like you said, it is "A LOGISTICS SUIT" and it sure was when it was given to us. Lots of PG/CPU to fit all 3 or 4 equipment slots and some slots to fit support items like dampeners, code breakers and scanners, the like. Had enough combat suitability to support itself and stick around long enough to use all of the logi goodies its packen. OP? hell yeah it is! but CCP gave us that suit and ppl were like "yes, this is what i want to do. i want to do all that." now they cant. Its no longer the class they speced into, and they dont want to play the way the class forces them to now. It is not fun to them. So, with their class changed, they should be able to spec out of it and play how they want to play. Do you disagree, that they should stay in a class that was changed and no longer enjoy? it wasent their fualt CCP changed it. now their hating dust It is called a logistic suit! If you want code breakers why didn't you go minmatar? If you want profile dampeners why not scout? I ll tell you why, cuz you knew it was a golden goose an so did everyone else! Just like the op AR bet you have one of those too an a faylock. You wanna cry respec for your suit only but yet say nothing to back your argument but say nothing about scout suits or heavies? My shotty sucks knives suck yet I still do well an cant run or jump an now have a hit box that increases in size the faster I move so cry babies can actually spray an pray with a proficiency damage of 5 an kill me with 4 bullets with zero accuracy an your crying cuz your actually a logistic now not a crazy assault with speed mods hacking mods dampeners damage mod, bombs, scanners an uplinks, probably not even running logistics gear? Face it you had a killer assault suit with way too much gear that backed a assault play style ! Take the hit actually get a assault suit now or finally start spec n into logistic equipment an kno ur role foo!
^ this right here. if people wanted to be an assault player, play in an assault suit. that was their roles. a logi's role is support, not assault, so blame the people for using a logi suit as assault rather then CCP. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
196
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:20:00 -
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Amen brother , amen! |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
1000
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:26:00 -
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Signed. Never another respec. |
Vaux Karn
The Mercenary Collective
26
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:31:00 -
[49] - Quote
Seeing as any respecs will only devalue SP (especially over the years) and get people addicted to them, I say hells yes to no more respecs!
SIGNED!!!!!!! |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2582
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:39:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Explain how paying to correct a mistake nullifies "Your actions have consequences " which is the line I tend to see most often bandied about when people start to talk about respecs Tell me how paying to correct a mistake doesn't constitute pay-to-win.
Since, you know, everything else CCP does is apparently pay-to-win, but respecs for AURUM just magically gets a pass for some reason. |
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
378
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Posted - 2013.07.19 23:03:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:2.) Sorry if the people who wanted to do everything in ONE suit cant do it all anymore..... 1st world problems right?
I'll still be able to do everything so its all good |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1373
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Posted - 2013.07.19 23:06:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Explain how paying to correct a mistake nullifies "Your actions have consequences " which is the line I tend to see most often bandied about when people start to talk about respecs Tell me how paying to correct a mistake doesn't constitute pay-to-win. Since, you know, everything else CCP does is apparently pay-to-win, but respecs for AURUM just magically gets a pass for some reason.
The first reason that comes to mind is a simple one, not everyone would respec into a flavor of the month build just as not everyone buys and uses contact grenades Another reason, although this one is based on faith they will actually get the game balanced, is that in a proper game there is no particular style that stands head and shoulders above all the rest and a respec is just an option for those that dont want to wait weeks or months to change up their playstyle |
Aleksander Black
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.07.20 00:03:00 -
[53] - Quote
+1, Signed. |
Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
177
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Posted - 2013.07.20 00:07:00 -
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+1 Signed.
Maybe I'll get one of these Proto-Suit thingies when my core skills are maxed out. |
McFurious
TeamPlayers EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.07.20 00:20:00 -
[55] - Quote
I'm not totally against respecs.
Frankly, it's CCP's fault for releasing a very unfinished game that keep changing to correct their mistakes (or making new mistakes). Some people take advantage and some people get screwed.
I regret my decision to spec into proto Gallente and armor but I'm not asking for a respec over it. I'm living with the decision and saving up for another suit but I will be hesitant to proto into anything else because things keep changing.
If they're gonna do another respec they should just wait until they've got the rest of the basic game content finalized. All the suits, all the vehicles, all the weapons, and all their racial variants and bonuses. THEN, do a respec.
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Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2013.07.20 00:30:00 -
[56] - Quote
+1 signed
Instead of typing, ill just use a song, no respecs |
Government CheeseBurger
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
482
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Posted - 2013.07.20 00:45:00 -
[57] - Quote
add me to this +1 |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
126
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Posted - 2013.07.20 01:41:00 -
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Spoken like a true fanboy. There should only be one more respec and that is when all racial dropsuits come out I am a heavy and a minmatar who is stuck with an amarr suit this is the only reaspn a respec should be given. A respec shpuld not be given for reblancing issues. One respec should be given when racial symmetry occurs for the dropsuits n maybe the racial weaponry. I already have my trusty hmg so I don't really care about another weapon others may feel differently |
Exmaple Core
Who Gives A Flux
578
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Posted - 2013.07.20 01:51:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Marston VC wrote:Who else likes to live with the decisions they make? Lol, the irony.
"The horror, the horror" 2 points to whoever figures out where that's a quote from! Was it the players who speced into the cal logi's decision to have their class nerfed? if CCP told everyone their class they spent SP on was getting nerfed later than it would have been their decision. But they dident. It was not their decision to pick a class that was going to be altered into something different than what the orginally choose. Its no longer what they signed up for. They should be respeced out of it 1.) Its losing 100 shields...... Big deal! you still have the other 585 HP. 2.) It doesn't take a lot to look at a suit like that and go "hmmmm maybe that's a bit overpowered and will get nerfed later on" 3.) we've already had 2 respecs...... if you decided to spec into that suit twice then that's your fault, not the DEVS. This isn't like the 2nd respec where people got it due to literal mislabeling. You specced into a LOGISTICS suit, play it like a LOGISTICS SUIT. If you specced into that with the intentions of being a pseudo Assault then its your problem that you can't play with it that way anymore, Not CCP's. No, that is CCPs fault. Like you said, it is "A LOGISTICS SUIT" and it sure was when it was given to us. Lots of PG/CPU to fit all 3 or 4 equipment slots and some slots to fit support items like dampeners, code breakers and scanners, the like. Had enough combat suitability to support itself and stick around long enough to use all of the logi goodies its packen. OP? hell yeah it is! but CCP gave us that suit and ppl were like "yes, this is what i want to do. i want to do all that." now they cant. Its no longer the class they speced into, and they dont want to play the way the class forces them to now. It is not fun to them. So, with their class changed, they should be able to spec out of it and play how they want to play. Do you disagree, that they should stay in a class that was changed and no longer enjoy? it wasent their fualt CCP changed it. now their hating dust 1.) it can still fulfill all the roles you mentioned. it lost 20 CPU..... you got 4 low slots so slam a CPU mod in if its that bad. Your acting like they broke the suit, they took (at maximum depending on your fit) 90 HP away with 20 CPU. Do you know what that means? WHOA Your suit can have less HP then the ASSAULT version of their suit! Crazy right? Go figure..... 2.) Sorry if the people who wanted to do everything in ONE suit cant do it all anymore..... 1st world problems right? they nerfed the fitting, shields, and shield recharge/depletion rate on the suit. This means like you said, "your suit can have less HP then the ASSAULT version of their suit!" and like you said, it is now a proper logi suit. When it was first given to us it was for "the people who wanted to do everything in ONE suit". It was very effective at the slayer role and now its not, what if ppl dont want to be the proper logi? What if they want to be a slayer? Like you said, the assault suit does that better than the logi now. So ppl who want to slay suddenly cant do it as well as assults anymore! Crazy right? Logi class is no longer for slayers and thats what many ppl skilled into it for. Now their play style is garbage because ccp nerfed something their skilled into. They should have the ability to respec into something that fits their style. 1st world promblems right? fairness? |
Tharak Meuridiar
The Empyrean Agency
194
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Posted - 2013.07.20 01:56:00 -
[60] - Quote
Signed. Respecs don't belong in this game |
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