People earned their proto, they are going to use it. But yeah- this game is hard to start. Once you get advanced gear you can go toe to toe with proto players decently, but until then you'll have to do your best picking your spots against players wwith top tier gear.

I know that they "earn" their proto, but the thing is, they are driving newbies out of the game. Right now, a new person comes out of the battle academy with about a mil sp, walks into fights with guys who have 10+ and they can't really do much outside of feed points to the other team.

CCP need to either do something to force proto stuff out of pub matches as often, or they need a matching system so that new people can actually function in-fight.

The discrepancies you're having is a result of matchmaking and not dropsuits. The tendency is that people who have proto suits have been playing longer and are generally more skilled at the game. Again that is a problem that can be alleviated with better matchmaking.

In general I'd advise you to stick to skirmish battles or factional warfare and ALWAYS be in a squad. These are the game types my corp and I are least likely to pubstomp. Most of the hardcore players will typically play Ambush OMS so be wary about that.

Either way though people are going to put their best fits on regardless because there's almost no point not to at my level. I'm stocked with ~500 fully fitted proto fits and am sitting on about 140 million ISK. My fits cost ~140k each and I still make a profit. I have nothing better to do in this game other than pubstomp when I don't have PC matches. Give me an alternative game mode or something to do and I'll happily leave the newbies alone. I'm sure many other people have similar feelings.

Agreed. I've played this game since August and to remove Proto suits from public matches would be yet another scat in the faces of us veterans. Yes, it gets irritating getting decimated, but most of us were where you are now. We had to get pub stomped to learn the ropes too. The irony of this is, CCP seems to do all it can to alienate us. We worked through deadly heavies, swipr kills by laser rifles, and the various nerfs and buffs just to get here. Now, I'm not going to talk smack because you're new, but it's a bunch of horse ***** that CCP is willing to break its back for "potential" new players but acts like the people who paid for merc packs and beta keys aren't worth a hooker's dildo. If they do nerf proto suits, it'll show once again that CCP only cares about the business it can get and not what it has. I mean damn, can one of you floppy sphincters answer the basic problems in this game BEFORE throwing new broken stuff at us?

I actually agree with the OP in ways, the proto players have about 2-3x more SP then the people fresh out of academy, this makes it nearly impossible for them to win at times or even hurt the proto players...seriously I have lit a proto player up, the proto runs away a bit, full shield within 4 seconds about, then kills me, even though in a regular battle on any other game I should have won.

I do think that pub matches should not allow all proto type suits and weapons until certain things are fixed, so that each team will have a roughly similar amount of SP total between all the players of a team (I've seen a game that has been on ambush oms 70-0 and I was on the team with 0) I don't mind loosing, even getting stomped once in a while, but I want to feel that I at least had a chance and that my team could have won or least somewhat hold their own.

Right now, my skill progression is slow because of the protos. I'm getting pennies worth of SP, while I'm the SP cash cow for proto users

That's not accurate.

The majority of your "active" SP is earned simply by being in a match. 5 SP per second in fact, while you earn a measly 1 SP per WP. CCP does this precisely for you, the beginner. A 15 minute match yields 4,500 SP without firing a shot or hacking a single objective. If you do exceptional and earn 1k WPs you get 5,500 SP, not a huge difference.

CCP does this to greatly diminish the difference in progression speed between high and low WP earners (no matter the reason) so nobody sprints too far ahead or gets left behind. It's important enough to them that they are willing to put up with AFK play to keep it.

If proto were taken out of pub matches then people who fight for faction will never be able to use them, and if you are in a corp with out a district then you will never ever be able to use it. This game is rough to new players you just have to deal with it for a while till you have around 4 mill in sp. Also i find it strange that you were so excited about this game and that you wanted to play it, but you just got out of the academy which means you ether have a alt or you have only been playing the game for about 2 weeks and never seen its true potential.

Are you keeping up with the information or are you skimming posts? Have you ever heard of creating a character, leaving it alone and then returning? That is not possible, you presume? Don't preach to me about potential. I have explained countless times in this thread that I am voicing an opinion but if they don't remove the protos for pub matches, I will continue to play. I enjoy this game. Please comprehend and read every post before you decide to accuse someone of something.

CCP does this to greatly diminish the difference in progression speed between high and low WP earners (no matter the reason) so nobody sprints too far ahead or gets left behind. It's important enough to them that they are willing to put up with AFK play to keep it.

I believe you don't understand. My SP progression is slower. If I'm running against guys who mostly proto and I run in default fits (its not because of my choosing, its because I have to until I level), then my SP is slower because of my WP gain.

How can I accumulate WP, which is integral to me gaining SP, when it takes much more to kill a proto player? Unless he's worn down, I'm meeting an end rather quickly. Yea I can hack installations, but I also need to help my team. I get more points for a kill than I do assist.

And I believe you're math is way wrong. There's no way possible a 15 minute match yields 4.500 SP without firing a shot or hacking a single objective. That doesn't make sense.

Are you playing the same game or am I being trolled?