We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns!

So the biggest issue is the splash radius... and you're asking for a buff to it?

Wow... glad you don't do weapon balancing for CCP.

So the biggest issue is the splash radius... and you're asking for a buff to it?

Wow... glad you don't do weapon balancing for CCP.

the weapon is supposed to be a finishing one, it should be doing 125 dmg a shot, standard, proto 160.

it has to still be effective but the fire rate is way to high, and that makes the dps sky rocket into a realm it shouldnt be. at the same time if you have to hit the guy directly with it to work, there is no point to using it. it becomes no longer a special weapon but just a useless pistol with 3 rounds...

the reload could go as high as 4 seconds, with a fire rate as low as 100 rpm.

since the flaylocks dnt do chip damage, calculating dps can be difficult. but, since we know the damage per shot increasing the delay between shots can help balance it out. if it takes lets say 3.5 seconds te empty your clip and 3.5 seconds to reload your dps would begin droping down to where it should be.

again nrfing the damage and radius is the wrong way to balance this weapon. its a high risk high reward weapon. if you miss zero damage is done and the clip is only 3 strong.

the SMG is a low risk low reward weapon, where missing isnt as important but when you hit the opponent damage done is not significant in and of itself.

The adv Flaylock is pretty balanced. I hardly kill with that weapon unless I hit with the 3 shots and the guy has 0 shields.

-XOXO

The adv Flaylock is pretty balanced. I hardly kill with that weapon unless I hit with the 3 shots and the guy has 0 shields. Core should have its blast radius nerf to like 1.7 Agreed on fire rate should be lower.

-XOXO

It's kind of hard to miss though, at least if you aim for the feet.

Obviously going for direct shots increases the chances of a miss, though an increase in splash wouldn't really help it in that regard, and would actually hinder it in CQC. Bigger splash = More suicides The splash on the MD is relatively safe thanks to it's low-ish splash damage, 3m on a flay though? fuq dat ****!!!

The problem is that the Flaylock does 90% of it's direct damage as splash damage. For reference, the Mass Driver does 50% of it's direct damage as splash damage. And the mass driver is suppose to be a main weapon, while the flaylock is a sidearm.

Fully skill and damage modded out, it can deal a whopping 325.61 or more damage to armour, as splash damage.

That is why it is OP in it's current state.

even better if people suicided more with flaylocks they wouldnt spam it in shotgun range. requiring them to judge distances better. good pointl

i have no tolerance for spamming.

at the same time i like diversity and variety. i dnt won't the flaylocks such a unique weapon to become so useless tht everyone just spams SMGs..

The problem is that the Flaylock does 90% of it's direct damage as splash damage. For reference, the Mass Driver does 50% of it's direct damage as splash damage. And the mass driver is suppose to be a main weapon, while the flaylock is a sidearm.

Fully skill and damage modded out, it can deal a whopping 325.61 or more damage to armour, as splash damage.

That is why it is OP in it's current state.

The problem is that the Flaylock does 90% of it's direct damage as splash damage. For reference, the Mass Driver does 50% of it's direct damage as splash damage. And the mass driver is suppose to be a main weapon, while the flaylock is a sidearm.

Fully skill and damage modded out, it can deal a whopping 325.61 or more damage to armour, as splash damage.

That is why it is OP in it's current state.

That sounds weak, not balanced, considering it's meant to take out armor. Unless you're talking about heavies or something, which I doubt.

But that's the thing about sidearms. They aren't meant to be used for killing but as for last resort. This means your enemy has to be weakened first by using your main then you use the sidearm for finishing off. I do this with the specialist flaylock meanwhile anyone can use the core as main and get more kills than a main weapon, like scrambler rifles for example. I bet I can kill more easily with the core than with my boundless HMG.

-XOXO

I actually managed to see that part of the WOT first...last thing that guns needs is even less accuarcy for effective results.
timrah

The flaylock has only 25% splash area as compared to the MD. So yes, more damage, but much smaller area, and half the magazine size.

But that's the thing about sidearms. They aren't meant to be used for killing but as for last resort. This means your enemy has to be weakened first by using your main then you use the sidearm for finishing off. I do this with the specialist flaylock meanwhile anyone can use the core as main and get more kills than a main weapon, like scrambler rifles for example. I bet I can kill more easily with the core than with my boundless HMG.

-XOXO

But that's the thing about sidearms. They aren't meant to be used for killing but as for last resort. This means your enemy has to be weakened first by using your main then you use the sidearm for finishing off. I do this with the specialist flaylock meanwhile anyone can use the core as main and get more kills than a main weapon, like scrambler rifles for example. I bet I can kill more easily with the core than with my boundless HMG.

-XOXO

i like it how people on focus on dissing op when he has valid points...

i know right.... i don't understand. the whole idea behind my idea of the balance to flaylocks is that it punishes those without skill in them but rewards people with skill in them.

they want the flaylocks to be nerfed so that no one can use them... its rediculous.

all weapons should be balanced in such a way that noobs are punished for spamming them but masters are rewarded for their skills.