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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.17 03:59:00 -
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Royce Kronos wrote:The problem is that the Flaylock does 90% of it's direct damage as splash damage. For reference, the Mass Driver does 50% of it's direct damage as splash damage. And the mass driver is suppose to be a main weapon, while the flaylock is a sidearm. Fully skill and damage modded out, it can deal a whopping 325.61 or more damage to armour, as splash damage. That is why it is OP in it's current state. 
The flaylock has only 25% splash area as compared to the MD. So yes, more damage, but much smaller area, and half the magazine size. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.17 04:06:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:The adv Flaylock is pretty balanced. I hardly kill with that weapon unless I hit with the 3 shots and the guy has 0 shields.
-XOXO That sounds weak, not balanced, considering it's meant to take out armor. Unless you're talking about heavies or something, which I doubt. But that's the thing about sidearms. They aren't meant to be used for killing but as for last resort. This means your enemy has to be weakened first by using your main then you use the sidearm for finishing off. I do this with the specialist flaylock meanwhile anyone can use the core as main and get more kills than a main weapon, like scrambler rifles for example. I bet I can kill more easily with the core than with my boundless HMG. -XOXO
Like the SMG?
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:20:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:i like it how people on focus on dissing op when he has valid points...
i know right.... i don't understand. the whole idea behind my idea of the balance to flaylocks is that it punishes those without skill in them but rewards people with skill in them. they want the flaylocks to be nerfed so that no one can use them... its rediculous. all weapons should be balanced in such a way that noobs are punished for spamming them but masters are rewarded for their skills. Except it was clearly designed as a noob tube, a beginner friendly weapon, and it should stay that way, the problem is , as you said, it's simply too damn easy to spam the things  A change in RoF And reload speed should end most of this QQ. Or we could standardize splash ranges around the ADV Flay, but not STD, that thing sucks balls. actually the noob gun of the game is the AR, requires the least SP, has the fewest draw backs, requires the least actual skill and deals tons of damage fast. it has the best CPU/PG ratio of all weapons basically (condisdering its potency), it can be used in all situations to great effect. it out ranges everything except snipers, and can be just as effective as a shotgun in close range (depending on your proficiency). hell the AR out guns HMGs... the AR really needs a nerf not the flaylock.
QFT
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:44:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Buster Friently wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:D legendary hero wrote:
i know right.... i don't understand. the whole idea behind my idea of the balance to flaylocks is that it punishes those without skill in them but rewards people with skill in them.
they want the flaylocks to be nerfed so that no one can use them... its rediculous.
all weapons should be balanced in such a way that noobs are punished for spamming them but masters are rewarded for their skills.
Except it was clearly designed as a noob tube, a beginner friendly weapon, and it should stay that way, the problem is , as you said, it's simply too damn easy to spam the things A change in RoF And reload speed should end most of this QQ. Or we could standardize splash ranges around the ADV Flay, but not STD, that thing sucks balls. actually the noob gun of the game is the AR, requires the least SP, has the fewest draw backs, requires the least actual skill and deals tons of damage fast. it has the best CPU/PG ratio of all weapons basically (condisdering its potency), it can be used in all situations to great effect. it out ranges everything except snipers, and can be just as effective as a shotgun in close range (depending on your proficiency). hell the AR out guns HMGs... the AR really needs a nerf not the flaylock. QFT what is QFT?
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:24:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:You know what? screw fair "balance" it will get nerfed so hard that it will do pitifull damage. Same thing happend to lasers so i dont see a reason why the flaylock should get a different treatment. And speaking of "missile weapons" the actual small/large missile launchers are still a joke. If they would have beeing anywhere remotely like flaylocks you would see LAV hit and runs with them. Every crap thing will have its shiny days but everything has a cost. Now you guys who specced into them will pay with your SP cause its gonna be a wasted piece of junk.
Too right, except that is, when it comes to the AR. |
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