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Monsku Kifini
Rautaleijona Top Men.
48
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:26:00 -
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Your little playerbase has asked you to remove these contact grenades entirely from the game for a long time and what do you do? You make them even cheaper.. PtW here. its like you want us to stop playing this game..
Major PC corps even went and agreed to not use these on PC because they are OP as hell.
I dont get you guys. You say that you listen our feedback and want to improve communication, but obiviosly you just want to spit on our faces and take the money. |
Lysander71
The Southern Legion rise of legion
0
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:30:00 -
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I bet you use a flaylock. |
KingBabar
Internal Error. League of Infamy
899
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:32:00 -
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Monsku Kifini wrote:Your little playerbase has asked you to remove these contact grenades entirely from the game for a long time and what do you do? You make them even cheaper.. PtW here. its like you want us to stop playing this game..
Major PC corps even went and agreed to not use these on PC because they are OP as hell.
I dont get you guys. You say that you listen our feedback and want to improve communication, but obiviosly you just want to spit on our faces and take the money.
Its not that I don't agree with you but these nades have am Isk version. I think they are lvl 5 and does 600 damage and has a 2.5 m blast radious, same as the Aur ones. I don't consider these nades that needs a skilled hand to be used effectively as a big issue. They're not used much and they're not that effective outside of CQC in tight areas.
The other ones, the "Fused" locus nades are only available for AUR. They are lvl 1 or perhaps even "levelless", they do less damage, 400 to the mentioned 600, but they definately makes up for it with their blast radius of 6 meters. Its easy mode. These should be removed from the game entirely or tweaked to perhaps 4 m blast radious and there should be an isk counterpart at lvl 3. These nades are PTW. |
Monsku Kifini
Rautaleijona Top Men.
49
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:32:00 -
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Lysander71 wrote:I bet you use a flaylock.
lol.. not a single skill point on those
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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
166
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:32:00 -
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It's all Foxfour he sees his corp getting the boot so he's gotta make sure they stock up :) You fail at Dust with each fail move. |
LRMXxX
What The French CRONOS.
27
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:40:00 -
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Why on hell would you even do publicity on these items ? I can understand it takes you time to balance these items, but advertising them when half your boards are filled with complaints isn't very smart CCP. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2458
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:49:00 -
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We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
2003
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:50:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Please say they're being removed. Seriously, just remove them. It solves everything. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1304
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:52:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Please say they're being removed. Seriously, just remove them. It solves everything.
But what about da money?!
My guess is they actually have to make contact with someone in order to explode, making them require some skill. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
167
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:53:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Please say they're being removed. Seriously, just remove them. It solves everything.
Perhaps but being that they are cheap right now you can stock up on them. They are basically THUKKER nades but extremely cheaper cost CPU/PG wise which makes absolutely no sense cause every other item AUR/ISK reqs are the same. |
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pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
575
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:56:00 -
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Contact grenades need no skill whatsoever. Yoi dont need to get a direct hit just land one within 6 m and tgeyare pretty much dead . Yes there is isk varients but they are inferior to the aur nades (pay to win). They should be removed or nerfed back to the stone age. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
882
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:59:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future.
Do not balance.
Remove. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1468
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:22:00 -
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They are not necessary. They should be removed, isk variant also. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2505
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:24:00 -
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I'm all over the removal idea. The Fused Nades with the Merc Pack were kind of a novelty you could write off, since you only get 50 and then they're gone.
Now you can buy more, and there are Prototype versions of them? **** that. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
122
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:24:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Do not balance. Remove.
Contact nades are CCP should remove all noob tube weapons like flaylock,MD etc.... |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
298
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:25:00 -
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I can agree with this. Remove them, don't 'balance' them. I suppose if they have a failsafe that prevents them from going off within 30 meters of the thrower those could be balanced.
Even then though, I'm not certain. = /
--- Remember: IamI3rian told ya. Enemy MCC shields... failed |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3249
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:27:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. 5 years later:
CCP Eterne wrote:It's coming guys! Just a bit more :)
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Cody Allentek
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:27:00 -
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<<=============This hurts me and I do not have enough skill points to purchase a better drop suit..... |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
584
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:27:00 -
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meh contacts keep things interesting.
if a player is using grenades like these they are probably sacrificing some form of tank to do it.
as mentioned they should be balanced but I don't want to see them removed. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2506
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:30:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. 5 years later: CCP Eterne wrote:It's coming guys! Just a bit more :)
Burn.
Seriously though, hopefully it comes soon. |
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steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
932
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:34:00 -
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Wait so your going to get people to stock up on them because of the discount and then change how they work. That's a dirty move and you no it. Contact nades should not be in the game full stop. There is a reason their not in any other shooter.
Ffs stand up to your management leadership/markings directives are becoming blinding clear. And does a lot discredited the hard work the teams put into this game |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. League of Infamy
666
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:35:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Please say they're being removed. Seriously, just remove them. It solves everything. But what about da money?! My guess is they actually have to make contact with someone in order to explode, making them require some skill.
If this is done then I probably dont complain about this nades very much anymore since most ppl just look at the ground and spam these nades........ |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1307
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:46:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:meh contacts keep things interesting.
if a player is using grenades like these they are probably sacrificing some form of tank to do it.
as mentioned they should be balanced but I don't want to see them removed.
What?
Serious?
The Fused Nade has the same PG/CPU requirement of the Locus, taking into consideration that most players run Logis, and they hardly have to sacrifice anything.
What is it, 9 CPU and 2 PG? Heck, even my Scout can fit that without sacrificing something else. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3823
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:56:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Do not balance. Remove.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
252
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Posted - 2013.07.16 13:01:00 -
[25] - Quote
Monsku Kifini wrote:Your little playerbase has asked you to remove these contact grenades entirely from the game for a long time and what do you do? You make them even cheaper.. PtW here. its like you want us to stop playing this game..
Major PC corps even went and agreed to not use these on PC because they are OP as hell.
I dont get you guys. You say that you listen our feedback and want to improve communication, but obiviosly you just want to spit on our faces and take the money.
The M2 Contacts are terrible and have a range of 2.5, the original Fused's are bettter. |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
139
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:14:00 -
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I've been using contact grenades for the last week. Cuz I had like 300 of them piled up in inventory.
I've found them awesome at times, sure. I've also killed myself once for every few enemy kills. |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens League of Infamy
168
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:14:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. But in the mean time, you offer unbalanced nades at a reduced price. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
919
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:16:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. wow... a EPIC failure.. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
180
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:23:00 -
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Monsku Kifini wrote:Your little playerbase has asked you to remove these contact grenades entirely from the game for a long time and what do you do? You make them even cheaper.. PtW here. its like you want us to stop playing this game..
Major PC corps even went and agreed to not use these on PC because they are OP as hell.
I dont get you guys. You say that you listen our feedback and want to improve communication, but obiviosly you just want to spit on our faces and take the money. no they agreed not to use it because they know there corp members are a bunch of whiny suckers.in a true pc battle you do what it takes to win...not this limitation crap... |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
366
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:24:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future.
Balance really? Most people who play don't even want them to begin with and you guys what to keep them. CCP how about you pay attention to what a majority of you players want and take a look a at this thread. |
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Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
370
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:26:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:meh contacts keep things interesting.
if a player is using grenades like these they are probably sacrificing some form of tank to do it.
as mentioned they should be balanced but I don't want to see them removed. ...?
Right, I'm sure that 9 CPU and 2 PG, in a grenade-only slot, really detracts from a suit's tank. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
441
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:32:00 -
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I hope by balance you mean send them into a black hole somewhere in the cosmos where they may never return to the Universe of New Eden. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
586
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:37:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:calisk galern wrote:meh contacts keep things interesting.
if a player is using grenades like these they are probably sacrificing some form of tank to do it.
as mentioned they should be balanced but I don't want to see them removed. ...? Right, I'm sure that 9 CPU and 2 PG, in a grenade-only slot, really detracts from a suit's tank.
was mostly considering the proto versions, if the devs intend to nerf them I assume the less the proto versions will become a lot weaker.
at least that was my train of thought.
IMO their shouldn't be anything less then a proto contact grenade, just like their is nothing less then a proto charge rifle.
like with the charge rifle the cpu and pg of these grenades should be quite high somewhere in the field of 64 cpu and 12 pg. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
551
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:39:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. and if by balance you mean removal than awesome, I look forward to it |
Anuliadon Gortusk
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
65
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:43:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. if they are not being removed you are foolish. So remove them and while ur at it remove the gaylock
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:43:00 -
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I bet everyone in here complaining bought a stockpile of them I know I got a few hundred for some sweet laughs |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2053
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:50:00 -
[37] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future.
Does the blog detail why CCP wants to keep them so badly? Numerous threads, a petition, a mutual treaty to refrain from their use in PC, numerous CSM members stating they dont belong in the game.. I mean, the evidence is there, this isnt something new, the community has wanted these removed for a while now but you still are pretty hellbent on keeping them.. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
114
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:54:00 -
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you fire md/flaylock at me..... i throw contact grenade at you.
its only fair |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
815
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:59:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future.
Unless the dev blog says you're keeing them the same, this post tells us that you're encouraging people to spend money on a sale item that you will soon change the effectiveness of.
Surely you can't think this is good customer relations? |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
815
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:01:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:you fire md/flaylock at me..... i throw contact grenade at you.
its only fair
If the MD had anything close to the damage output of those other two, you'd have a point. |
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:01:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Unless the dev blog says you're keeing them the same, this post tells us that you're encouraging people to spend money on an item that you will soon change the effectiveness of. Surely you can't think this is good customer relations? spam them at stacked proto stompers in instant battles while you can |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2053
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:02:00 -
[42] - Quote
Chunky Munkey wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Unless the dev blog says you're keeing them the same, this post tells us that you're encouraging people to spend money on a sale item that you will soon change the effectiveness of. Surely you can't think this is good customer relations?
Me thinks development and Marketing arent communicating very well but thats been the general theme of things fora while now. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
670
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:05:00 -
[43] - Quote
lol@people bitching about Panic 'nades.
I wonder how many of them are Flaylock spammers..... |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
848
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:06:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Please say they're being removed. Seriously, just remove them. It solves everything. EDIT: Also, will you actually write this dev blog or is it going to be another one which never shows up?
well said +1
seriously u want AUR nades I can see that.. make a proto variant of nades for AUR available at lower levels. contact nades require less than zero talent and everyone is in agreement they should just be removed.
If memory serves.. didn't they get removed before for the same reason???
u think people here wouldn't remember that?
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ReGnUM Public Relations
EoN Public Relations
368
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:07:00 -
[45] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future.
I would really like to read how you consider contact nades balanced
EoN Fighting for a better Tomorrow |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:10:00 -
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CCP loves to see the crybabies come out and whine
who cares about the contact grenades hell bring more
CCP make me some flux fused so I can hit that logi LAV with it and crush his shields
if you dont like them dont use them
if you like to see people whine and cry like CCP does
toss a couple of these out when you see that protosuit coming at you
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:11:00 -
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im gonna go buy a couple more hundred |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2054
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:13:00 -
[48] - Quote
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:im gonna go buy a couple more hundred
Your parents must be so proud. |
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:15:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:im gonna go buy a couple more hundred Your parents must be so proud. your dad must be proud of you also on here whining about a damn contact grenade
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2054
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:21:00 -
[50] - Quote
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:im gonna go buy a couple more hundred Your parents must be so proud. your dad must be proud of you also on here whining about a damn contact grenade
Imagine what that means to me. |
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CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
75
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:26:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future.
Its always - "Soon" or "In the future"
You hardly ever give dates or estimates.
CCP - how do you expect your player base to react?
lolcp
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
587
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:27:00 -
[52] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Its always - "Soon" or "In the future" You hardly ever give dates or estimates. CCP - how do you expect your player base to react? lolcp
they already said an estimate on when 1.3 will be out and that they will be doing regular 1 month updates.
if they are doing a dev blog on the changes then expect it for 1.3 or 1.4 at the latest.
until they prove that they can't keep to this 1 month update plan, then I will stick to this being the case atm. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2797
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:54:00 -
[53] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Does the blog detail why CCP wants to keep them so badly? Numerous threads, a petition, a mutual treaty to refrain from their use in PC, numerous CSM members stating they dont belong in the game.. I mean, the evidence is there, this isnt something new, the community has wanted these removed for a while now but you still are pretty hellbent on keeping them..
They were taken out sometime in the closed beta cuz people complained about them. I guess they thought it was a good idea to bring them back.
Way to listen to the community! You gotta wonder if CCP actually listens... or just completely ignore certain topics due to them making money off it.
When you have corps agreeing NOT to use contact nades and Flaylocks in PC matches in times or war, YOU KNOW SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG WITH YOUR GAME! |
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:55:00 -
[54] - Quote
A post in this thread has been removed for inappropriate language |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2799
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:59:00 -
[55] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:A post in this thread has been removed for inappropriate language
sweet... not a fan of cursing at the devs... now remove the contact nades while you're at it
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1870
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:09:00 -
[56] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:A post in this thread has been removed for inappropriate language
While you are scanning this thread for profanity, how bout' you tell CCP Eterne that his comment is getting him massive flak and that he should come back and give us some real information? |
DAMIOS82
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:09:00 -
[57] - Quote
I wish people would stop saying 'everybody', since when does one person speak for the entire community, you don't! i for one like them. sure they require no skill, and if they are beeing spammed it sucks, but if your in a tight spot they come in handy. especially if your beeing ganged by multiple targets. So if you don't like them tough luck, suck it up and don't buy them. i'm sure there are plenty of other weapons i don't like and you don't see me crying about it every 5 minutes. The best way to do it is put fused on level 2/3 and cavity proto. and as for there range sure 6 m is alott, best to make fused less and cavity more. |
DARK - IMPULSE
Internal Error. League of Infamy
20
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:13:00 -
[58] - Quote
Contact nades have no place in a FPS game. THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED OUT OF THE GAME, CCP. ASAP. If you dont want to removed them you got to modify them as a fast explosive nade. Instead of 5 seconds that it takes regular nades to explode, these ones should explode at 4 seconds.
I refused to use the stock I got from merc packs just becasuse I don't think they have place in a competitive FPS game, oops, dust 514 is not a competitive FPS.
So, good job CCP with that 50% discount on M2 cavity, you are killing the game a little more with this.
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
591
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:17:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future.
and so the mighty devs finally bent their knees to the cries of the whiners. Im interested to see what the blog is about! |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6209
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:20:00 -
[60] - Quote
Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them, do not change your buying habits too much over them either. |
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1870
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:22:00 -
[61] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them.
9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1308
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:24:00 -
[62] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them.
Any specific reason?
Will CCP take them from our assets and not refund our AUR/ISK?
Will they be nerfed to the ground? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6209
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:25:00 -
[63] - Quote
Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades.
Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases.
No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. |
Sgt Buttscratch
Z.G.R.B
501
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:28:00 -
[64] - Quote
Remove em. simple as |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1473
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:29:00 -
[65] - Quote
ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. I would really like to read how you consider contact nades balanced EoN Fighting for a better Tomorrow Ikr, balanced explode on contact grenades...now thats an oxymoron. |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
204
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 17:30:00 -
[66] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion.
In other words; now would be a good time to spam any fused grenades you might have left. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
671
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 17:32:00 -
[67] - Quote
DARK - IMPULSE wrote:Contact nades have no place in a FPS game. THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED OUT OF THE GAME, CCP. ASAP. If you dont want to removed them you got to modify them as a fast explosive nade. Instead of 5 seconds that it takes regular nades to explode, these ones should explode at 4 seconds.
I refused to use the stock I got from merc packs just becasuse I don't think they have place in a competitive FPS game, oops, dust 514 is not a competitive FPS.
So, good job CCP with that 50% discount on M2 cavity, you are killing the game a little more with this.
lol, you rang? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6209
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 17:33:00 -
[68] - Quote
J-Lewis wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. In other words; now would be a good time to spam any fused grenades you might have left.
hmmm... I also caution against this as well. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5221
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:43:00 -
[69] - Quote
I've given up on seeing balance in this game, every damn patch just pushes something else into the category of absurdly easy to use for its incredible efficiency.
This game is a joke right now, just laugh at it and down some brews, no sense getting worked up over devs "listening" to player feedback
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2064
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 17:50:00 -
[70] - Quote
Only way I can see them being balanced is having heavily reduced damage to make them Suppression tools more than killing tools.
6m Splash Radius with 100 Damage would make them good against groups of targets but very difficult to kill with, save for scouts which need their own balance pass anyway.
But what they really need, if we're honestly so hard on keeping them are ISK variants that arent Proto and have Proto resource requirements.
All in all thebest way to balance them, imo, is the UVT method. Destroy them. |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5221
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:53:00 -
[71] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:All in all thebest way to balance them, imo, is the UVT method. Destroy them. It's almost as if we told them that, resoundingly, many times in the past.
It's almost as if their players ::gasp:: provided feedback.
CCP be doin it for the AUR mang. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
920
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 17:56:00 -
[72] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. ah so they buffing them... i see your point. do not buy them now... wait for later |
steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
938
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:58:00 -
[73] - Quote
then why put them on discount im sorry Iron but this unacceptable becuse a lot of the community wont here about this.
this has left a very bad taste in my mouth its borderline false advertising |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6210
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 17:59:00 -
[74] - Quote
ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. ah so they buffing them... i see your point. do not buy them now... wait for later
Buffing? The less you try to read into what I am saying the healthier you would probably be on the subject. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
671
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 18:01:00 -
[75] - Quote
ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. ah so they buffing them... i see your point. do not buy them now... wait for later
YES!!!!
I knew you wouldn't let us down CCP!!!
I'm going to buy even more FLG now that you're buffing them!!! |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
182
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 18:01:00 -
[76] - Quote
stlcarlos989 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Balance really? Most people who play don't even want them to begin with and you guys what to keep them. CCP how about you pay attention to what a majority of you players want and take a look a at this thread. they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5222
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 18:03:00 -
[77] - Quote
Soldiersaint wrote:they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that. I bet you would have said the same thing about Swarm Launchers back in the day
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
921
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 18:11:00 -
[78] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. ah so they buffing them... i see your point. do not buy them now... wait for later Buffing? The less you try to read into what I am saying the healthier you would probably be on the subject. IDC.. i am not paying for them, im a tanker why would i need nades? but from what you are saying they are figuring out to buff them while calling it a nerf. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
719
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 18:15:00 -
[79] - Quote
ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Buffing? The less you try to read into what I am saying the healthier you would probably be on the subject.
IDC.. i am not paying for them, im a tanker why would i need nades? but from what you are saying they are figuring out to buff them while calling it a nerf. He's just saying "don't panic, wait for the changes to arrive before doing something potentionally stupid".
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DARK - IMPULSE
Internal Error. League of Infamy
21
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:25:00 -
[80] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion.
I refused to use them as they are now. Thanks for the advice.
But i'm not spending a cent more on this game. The game does not deserve it.
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
922
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:25:00 -
[81] - Quote
Malkai Inos wrote:ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Buffing? The less you try to read into what I am saying the healthier you would probably be on the subject.
IDC.. i am not paying for them, im a tanker why would i need nades? but from what you are saying they are figuring out to buff them while calling it a nerf. He's just saying "don't panic, wait for the changes to arrive before doing something potentionally stupid". im pretty much sold that once ps2 comes out there will be no reason for me to play dust again. the only reason right now it my laptop doesn't handle the graphics right or goes slug mode if i try and make it. and i am not getting/making a new laptop/desktop and waiting to see if ccp even wants to try to make a decent game or just a really rather beta change feast. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
184
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:35:00 -
[82] - Quote
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:CCP loves to see the crybabies come out and whine who cares about the contact grenades hell bring more CCP make me some flux fused so I can hit that logi LAV with it and crush his shields if you dont like them dont use them if you like to see people whine and cry like CCP does toss a couple of these out when you see that protosuit coming at you hell yes...you sir know how to have some real fun....even though a am a logi/tanker with no aur i dont mind these contact things one bit......WHO AM I KIDDING PLEASE DONT THROW THOSE THINGS AT ME I DONT WANT TO DIE. |
Monsku Kifini
Rautaleijona Top Men.
67
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 20:19:00 -
[83] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future.
Grenades are on sale and no sign of the dev blog.. What if someone goes and buys loads of these with real money and you go and "balance" these items afterwards?
To be honest, I don't care about people who buy and use contact grenades, but if you courage people to buy these and make changes afterwards, you end up upsetting people who have invested their money on these bs grenades. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
416
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 20:33:00 -
[84] - Quote
Reducing price so more people will buy them using RL currency...
... while announcing in a low-visibility that they are about to be "balanced" (i.e. knowing you are about to nerf them into the ground maybe?)
i hate wearing tinfoil but you guys just set it up too easily: bait & switch. |
lDocHollidayl
Internal Error. League of Infamy
193
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 20:41:00 -
[85] - Quote
CCP can look at stats and see that the contact grenades are not being spammed. When a weapon is over used and OP it is obvious...The kill feed would be littered with it. This is just not the case. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:02:00 -
[86] - Quote
I think the logic is simple, they put a item on sale to increase the activity of it. Then they crunch the results and adjust the numbers.
Proto seem to have high fitting costs, so I'm on the fence here..
But fused are a joke with the low skill/fitting costs. AND there only 15 aur..
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2802
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 21:06:00 -
[87] - Quote
lDocHollidayl wrote:CCP can look at stats and see that the contact grenades are not being spammed. When a weapon is over used and OP it is obvious...The kill feed would be littered with it. This is just not the case.
lol?
back to looking at stats? that's done a world of wonders for the game's balance as it is hasn't it? Forget feedback right? Let's look at data collected.
Guess what, that's how Uprising was made. Data and zero feedback. |
Monsku Kifini
Rautaleijona Top Men.
69
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 21:16:00 -
[88] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
Guess what, that's how Uprising was made. Data and zero feedback.
Yeah and how did that go? |
Gods Architect
Internal Error. League of Infamy
229
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 21:20:00 -
[89] - Quote
The GÇ£CavityGÇ¥ M2 Contact Locus Grenade. Damn that sounds pretty nasty. |
Shadow of War88
0uter.Heaven EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:21:00 -
[90] - Quote
Monsku Kifini wrote:Your little playerbase has asked you to remove these contact grenades entirely from the game for a long time and what do you do? You make them even cheaper.. PtW here. its like you want us to stop playing this game..
Major PC corps even went and agreed to not use these on PC because they are OP as hell.
I dont get you guys. You say that you listen our feedback and want to improve communication, but obiviosly you just want to spit on our faces and take the money.
chill 1.3 is around the corner n it will be a balance only patch
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
589
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:25:00 -
[91] - Quote
ladwar wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Buffing? The less you try to read into what I am saying the healthier you would probably be on the subject.
IDC.. i am not paying for them, im a tanker why would i need nades? but from what you are saying they are figuring out to buff them while calling it a nerf. He's just saying "don't panic, wait for the changes to arrive before doing something potentionally stupid". im pretty much sold that once ps2 comes out there will be no reason for me to play dust again. the only reason right now it my laptop doesn't handle the graphics right or goes slug mode if i try and make it. and i am not getting/making a new laptop/desktop and waiting to see if ccp even wants to try to make a decent game or just a really rather beta change feast.
you could save your self time, by downloading it on your computer now and just playing it.... |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
114
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 22:00:00 -
[92] - Quote
tbh. i dont recall ever being killed by contact grenades ever... well apart from by my own lol
and with m2 grenades the range is so small you pretty much have to get a direct hit. what damage does a MD or flaylock do direct these days?? |
Dimmu Borgir II
Consolidated Dust
2
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 22:05:00 -
[93] - Quote
Why is everyone crying all of the time about balancing??
< sarcasm > I've got a great idea, take out all of the assault and logi suits, take out all skills cos they're stupid because there are people that have skills that I don't and it's not balanced and when I'm not balanced I fall over... waaaahhhh < /sarcasm > Jeeeez folks, what a bunch of cry babies!!
Stop talking **** to the developers about a game that's so fecking awesome and that you're obviously so passionate about and it's plain to see because it makes you cry, literally, on your keyboard whilst posting your freaking crybaby comments all day!
The game's all about fun, stop taking it so seriously and thank the developers for giving us something so cool for zero pennies and if you don't like spending real money don't do it, spend ISK! |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. rise of legion
601
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Posted - 2013.07.16 22:27:00 -
[94] - Quote
Marston VC wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. and so the mighty devs finally bent their knees to the LOWER player numbers. Im interested to see what the blog is about!
Fixed.
BEFORE: MORE! than 9000 Dust 514 players....cool!!
THEN!!!! unkillable logi LAVs, noskill flaylocks and just for good measure lets give them fused contact grenades!!
AFTER: We get LESS than 6000 Dust players during a 3X SP event and with this Mordus Event we get LESS than 5000 Dust players.
And if all these defects continue then I and I guess many others will not be playing during the DUST 514 Prime League Tournament as I had way too many loldeaths during (Closed Beta) tournament where turrets were beyond broken with dropships going 100 and 0 and CCP was watching every Tournament battle and even then it took them a month!! before the broken turrets were fixed.
Fondly looks at PS4 pre-order then plays Skyrim.
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
912
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Posted - 2013.07.17 08:05:00 -
[95] - Quote
Soldiersaint wrote: they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that.
Rarely in life do you ever see ignorance take on such an obvious form. |
Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
60
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Posted - 2013.07.17 08:16:00 -
[96] - Quote
Get rid of fused, and balance the Contact grenades. |
Calroon DeVil
Internal Error. League of Infamy
84
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Posted - 2013.07.17 08:39:00 -
[97] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. A lot of hot air and nothing to show for it. Pathetic how slow you people are.
Dev blog in the near future, aka soonGäó
Certainly looks like CCP is looking for a way to make the last 5k people stop playing a medicore game by 2013 standards. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
501
|
Posted - 2013.07.17 08:49:00 -
[98] - Quote
I guess I have to give CCP some very small amount of credit for actually listening and removing the Cavity M2 Contact grenade sale that they had earlier promoted. It's still only 20 Aurum and the Fused is still incredibly OP, but they get some amount of respect for the quick response to this specific complaint.
Now hurry up and get rid of contact grenades altogether and nerf the flaylock. |
STABBEY
WarRavens League of Infamy
72
|
Posted - 2013.07.17 08:53:00 -
[99] - Quote
Monsku Kifini wrote:Your little playerbase has asked you to remove these contact grenades entirely from the game for a long time and what do you do? You make them even cheaper.. PtW here. its like you want us to stop playing this game..
Major PC corps even went and agreed to not use these on PC because they are OP as hell.
I dont get you guys. You say that you listen our feedback and want to improve communication, but obiviosly you just want to spit on our faces and take the money.
Quit crying you babys these grenades have been here much longer than you. Am I the only person that survives these things? Quit being a noob and learn how to build your suit. It's 1 of the few things that can battle the faglocks. Why dont you figure out how to counter this **** before you ***** moan and complain about them. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1337
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:00:00 -
[100] - Quote
Really they don't need to be removed.
I think tightening the splash radius and giving it lower damage will make it balanced. I'd say 1.5 radius and 350 damage for the standard version and 2.5 splash and 425-50 damage for the prototype would be fine. |
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steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
941
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:39:00 -
[101] - Quote
Item is no longer on sale that you for paying attention to the feedback I look forword to the dev blog :-) |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2539
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:08:00 -
[102] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Does the blog detail why CCP wants to keep them so badly? Numerous threads, a petition, a mutual treaty to refrain from their use in PC, numerous CSM members stating they dont belong in the game.. I mean, the evidence is there, this isnt something new, the community has wanted these removed for a while now but you still are pretty hellbent on keeping them.. I'll go so far as to say that even the people who stockpiled the AURUM ones probably won't even put up much of a fuss if you just give them the AURUM back.
I mean, seriously, there's no defending the damn things. At least a Flaylock pistol takes more than one shot.
With those things you just throw it and watch everyone die. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
189
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:08:00 -
[103] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Soldiersaint wrote: they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that.
Rarely in life do you ever see ignorance take on such an obvious form. never in my life have i seen such annoying cry babies you people whine about everything...EVERYTHING....once they nerf the contact nades what are going to whine about next? im ignorant for just playing the game? at least i take the game for what it is unlike you freaking whiners who never shut up...either get better at the game and counter those nades....or just go back to call of balance.. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:35:00 -
[104] - Quote
So looks like crying really does get us whatever we want.
Quote:Dear players,
Today DUST 514 will go offline for an extended period of time starting from 11:00 GMT. Server is expected to come back up at 11:45 GMT. Today we are deploying the following changes:
* Removal of "Cavity" M2 Contact Locus Grenade from July Sales Pack promotion and bringing it back to its original 20 AUR price
Thank you for your patience and understanding.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1065769#post1065769 |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5236
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:42:00 -
[105] - Quote
GTA-V FTW wrote:So looks like crying really does get us whatever we want. Quote:Dear players,
Today DUST 514 will go offline for an extended period of time starting from 11:00 GMT. Server is expected to come back up at 11:45 GMT. Today we are deploying the following changes:
* Removal of "Cavity" M2 Contact Locus Grenade from July Sales Pack promotion and bringing it back to its original 20 AUR price
Thank you for your patience and understanding. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1065769#post1065769 Not at all.
If it did, they'd be gone.
Oh wait, that's right, we weren't crying, it was just some of the best players in the game providing consistent and constant feedback to have them removed.
****, get crying guys, stop being constructive. That's why CCP can't hear us, we're being totally reasonable. Time to turn this **** up to 11 |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3347
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:44:00 -
[106] - Quote
Soldiersaint wrote:they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that. We used to have free Dropships with Missile Turrets that could fire past draw distance. They were in the game, and that was that... until CCP changed it.
We used to have free HAVs. They were in the game, and that was that... until CCP changed it.
We used to have Mass Drivers that were a credible threat on the battlefield. They were in the game, and that was that... until CCP changed it.
There used to be a free starter Logi suit. They were in the game, and that was that... until CCP changed it.
I could go on, but I'm sure you see a pattern here... |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
756
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:56:00 -
[107] - Quote
DARK - IMPULSE wrote:I don't think they have place in a competitive FPS game, oops, dust 514 is not a competitive FPS.
oh is that what they call this now |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
190
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:40:00 -
[108] - Quote
Garrett Blacknova wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that. We used to have free Dropships with Missile Turrets that could fire past draw distance. They were in the game, and that was that... until CCP changed it. We used to have free HAVs. They were in the game, and that was that... until CCP changed it. We used to have Mass Drivers that were a credible threat on the battlefield. They were in the game, and that was that... until CCP changed it. There used to be a free starter Logi suit. They were in the game, and that was that... until CCP changed it. I could go on, but I'm sure you see a pattern here... *sigh* yes its all true......you people still need to stop crying.....you guys cry more than bf3 and cod fanboys combined.....thats how much crying goes on here.....this game is not about balance at all......why cant you people understand that? this game is all about taking all possible advantages.....after all it is war isnt it? |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
190
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:43:00 -
[109] - Quote
TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:DARK - IMPULSE wrote:I don't think they have place in a competitive FPS game, oops, dust 514 is not a competitive FPS.
oh is that what they call this now another competitive trash bag.....WAR IS NOT COMPETITION YOU IDIOT! dust is all about war.........its all about taking the advantage and giving your enemy no mercy and no room to breath...you want some stupid competition go play sports! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5255
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:45:00 -
[110] - Quote
Soldiersaint wrote:*sigh* yes its all true......you people still need to stop crying.....you guys cry more than bf3 and cod fanboys combined.....thats how much crying goes on here.....this game is not about balance at all......why cant you people understand that? this game is all about taking all possible advantages.....after all it is war isnt it? Actually every Vet here is well aware that we're still in Beta, so actually it's all about "whining" because this isn't war, it's a video game, and video games are supposed to be fun.
Broken mechanics a fun game does not make. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6219
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Posted - 2013.07.17 19:43:00 -
[111] - Quote
If coding allowed for it and had time for it.
I wouldn't mind turning the contact grenades into sticky grenades. |
Anuliadon Gortusk
Who Gives A Flux
69
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Posted - 2013.07.17 19:47:00 -
[112] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:If coding allowed for it and had time for it.
I wouldn't mind turning the contact grenades into sticky grenades. If they refuse to remove them all together this will suffice. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
925
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Posted - 2013.07.17 20:07:00 -
[113] - Quote
calisk galern wrote:ladwar wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Buffing? The less you try to read into what I am saying the healthier you would probably be on the subject.
IDC.. i am not paying for them, im a tanker why would i need nades? but from what you are saying they are figuring out to buff them while calling it a nerf. He's just saying "don't panic, wait for the changes to arrive before doing something potentionally stupid". im pretty much sold that once ps2 comes out there will be no reason for me to play dust again. the only reason right now it my laptop doesn't handle the graphics right or goes slug mode if i try and make it. and i am not getting/making a new laptop/desktop and waiting to see if ccp even wants to try to make a decent game or just a really rather beta change feast. you could save your self time, by downloading it on your computer now and just playing it.... or you could reread my post before you stick your foot in your mouth more. I already did, my graphics card isn't up to par for what is needed to run it so there are glitches and artifacts making game-play difficult. but this isn't what im posting about
so they removed it from the sales week. does that tell you anything... it does to me. (they are going to buff them soon but sshhh be very quite about it.) |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.17 20:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:If coding allowed for it and had time for it.
I wouldn't mind turning the contact grenades into sticky grenades. Omg push for sticky nades of some kind.
Any kind really. Stickies are sooo much better than contact in that they take a degree of skill / luck, and are hilariously more entertaining in pretty much any situation, ever.
I would fall in love with DUST again if we got sticky grenades
No lie
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.07.17 21:02:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades.
CCP has given you the CPM, which has given you information. Are you not entertained? |
Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.17 22:04:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Soldiersaint wrote: they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that.
Rarely in life do you ever see ignorance take on such an obvious form. never in my life have i seen such annoying cry babies you people whine about everything...EVERYTHING....once they nerf the contact nades what are going to whine about next? im ignorant for just playing the game? at least i take the game for what it is unlike you freaking whiners who never shut up...either get better at the game and counter those nades....or just go back to call of balance.. do you use contacts as a panic button or throw them before a gun fight ensues and also use them on heavies that cant dodge them? then you are a scrub. i personally have never used one. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:03:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Soldiersaint wrote: they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that.
Rarely in life do you ever see ignorance take on such an obvious form. never in my life have i seen such annoying cry babies you people whine about everything...EVERYTHING....once they nerf the contact nades what are going to whine about next? im ignorant for just playing the game? at least i take the game for what it is unlike you freaking whiners who never shut up...either get better at the game and counter those nades....or just go back to call of balance.. do you use contacts as a panic button or throw them before a gun fight ensues and also use them on heavies that cant dodge them? then you are a scrub. i personally have never used one. i have no arum or whatever its called.....this game is about war...there are no scrubs in war....... only those who die and those who live.....all you idiots talking about skill are WORTHLESS...you think because you play like some sport everyone else has to play like that? no..nobody has to play your freaking way...for those of you who use the contact nades you are not wrong...and you most certainly are not scrubs.....this game is about war...and in war you do what it takes to win.....real scrubs are people who limit themselves.....truly skilled players use ALL weapons and tactics....ALL OF THEM. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
192
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:06:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:*sigh* yes its all true......you people still need to stop crying.....you guys cry more than bf3 and cod fanboys combined.....thats how much crying goes on here.....this game is not about balance at all......why cant you people understand that? this game is all about taking all possible advantages.....after all it is war isnt it? Actually every Vet here is well aware that we're still in Beta, so actually it's all about "whining" because this isn't war, it's a video game, and video games are supposed to be fun. Broken mechanics a fun game does not make. if the game was about sports i would listen to you but its not......you cannot balance a game about war...its impossible...thats what all these skill whores and tryhards will never understand... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:06:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:if the game was about sports i would listen to you but its not......you cannot balance a game about war...its impossible...thats what all these skill whores and tryhards will never understand... ::facepalm::
Lets just be gentlemen and agree to disagree on this one
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GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:08:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:truly skilled players use ALL weapons and tactics....ALL OF THEM.
Yeah but skill point cap...........
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Eldest Dragon
D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:14:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future.
If there getting nerfed, then I'm pretty sure it shouldnt take over 1 mil sp to get proto nades, at least thats my opinion. How about a nerf on the sp requirment as well. =)
ps. The 2m blast radius already is terrible, I hope thats increased if the damage is decreased, I can imagine a 2m radius doing a couple hundred damage = pretty much useless. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:51:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:if the game was about sports i would listen to you but its not......you cannot balance a game about war...its impossible...thats what all these skill whores and tryhards will never understand... ::facepalm:: Lets just be gentlemen and agree to disagree on this one *sigh* im not trying to fight here im just sharing my opinion thats all....i apologize if i came off as a jerk. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
252
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Posted - 2013.07.18 01:00:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:if the game was about sports i would listen to you but its not......you cannot balance a game about war...its impossible...thats what all these skill whores and tryhards will never understand... ::facepalm:: Lets just be gentlemen and agree to disagree on this one *sigh* im not trying to fight here im just sharing my opinion thats all....i apologize if i came off as a jerk. Oh, it's you...
CCP we also need a 800% increase in damage to AV Grenades. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
607
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Posted - 2013.07.18 02:20:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Soldiersaint wrote: they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that.
Rarely in life do you ever see ignorance take on such an obvious form. never in my life have i seen such annoying cry babies you people whine about everything...EVERYTHING....once they nerf the contact nades what are going to whine about next? im ignorant for just playing the game? at least i take the game for what it is unlike you freaking whiners who never shut up...either get better at the game and counter those nades....or just go back to call of balance.. do you use contacts as a panic button or throw them before a gun fight ensues and also use them on heavies that cant dodge them? then you are a scrub. i personally have never used one. i have no arum or whatever its called.....this game is about war...there are no scrubs in war....... only those who die and those who live.....all you idiots talking about skill are WORTHLESS...you think because you play like some sport everyone else has to play like that? no..nobody has to play your freaking way...for those of you who use the contact nades you are not wrong...and you most certainly are not scrubs.....this game is about war...and in war you do what it takes to win.....real scrubs are people who limit themselves.....truly skilled players use ALL weapons and tactics....ALL OF THEM.
A skilled player can run militia and starter fits and get more kills than the "skilled....lol" scrub who runs FOTM + proto suits and weapons.
Good gear =/= skill Garbage gear plus skill owns scrubs FOTM plus good gear.
Good gear plus SKILL equals kills. I.e. Protoman23 killed me a lot of times but I allways learned something from each battle. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
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Posted - 2013.07.19 13:39:00 -
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But i dont run flavor of the month or proto gear |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
112
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Posted - 2013.07.19 15:03:00 -
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Didnt I read somewhere that CCP hired a professional economics/accounting guy to setup the market in EVE and Dust?
If you have a grenade as popular as the contact wouldnt you want to promote as many sales as possible? Also, the reduction in price could mean they are considering nerfing/changing the fused contact grenades soonTM? Firesale.
You may not agree with it, but everything CCP does to the items, market and cost is intended to make them more money. It is a business, you cant blame them really for playing the players against the market and profiting off of their actions. |
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