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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1870
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them.
9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1308
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them.
Any specific reason?
Will CCP take them from our assets and not refund our AUR/ISK?
Will they be nerfed to the ground? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6209
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:25:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades.
Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases.
No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. |
Sgt Buttscratch
Z.G.R.B
501
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:28:00 -
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Remove em. simple as |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1473
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:29:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. I would really like to read how you consider contact nades balanced EoN Fighting for a better Tomorrow Ikr, balanced explode on contact grenades...now thats an oxymoron. |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
204
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:30:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion.
In other words; now would be a good time to spam any fused grenades you might have left. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
671
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:32:00 -
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DARK - IMPULSE wrote:Contact nades have no place in a FPS game. THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED OUT OF THE GAME, CCP. ASAP. If you dont want to removed them you got to modify them as a fast explosive nade. Instead of 5 seconds that it takes regular nades to explode, these ones should explode at 4 seconds.
I refused to use the stock I got from merc packs just becasuse I don't think they have place in a competitive FPS game, oops, dust 514 is not a competitive FPS.
So, good job CCP with that 50% discount on M2 cavity, you are killing the game a little more with this.
lol, you rang? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6209
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:33:00 -
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J-Lewis wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. In other words; now would be a good time to spam any fused grenades you might have left.
hmmm... I also caution against this as well. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5221
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:43:00 -
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I've given up on seeing balance in this game, every damn patch just pushes something else into the category of absurdly easy to use for its incredible efficiency.
This game is a joke right now, just laugh at it and down some brews, no sense getting worked up over devs "listening" to player feedback
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2064
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:50:00 -
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Only way I can see them being balanced is having heavily reduced damage to make them Suppression tools more than killing tools.
6m Splash Radius with 100 Damage would make them good against groups of targets but very difficult to kill with, save for scouts which need their own balance pass anyway.
But what they really need, if we're honestly so hard on keeping them are ISK variants that arent Proto and have Proto resource requirements.
All in all thebest way to balance them, imo, is the UVT method. Destroy them. |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5221
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:53:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:All in all thebest way to balance them, imo, is the UVT method. Destroy them. It's almost as if we told them that, resoundingly, many times in the past.
It's almost as if their players ::gasp:: provided feedback.
CCP be doin it for the AUR mang. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
920
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. ah so they buffing them... i see your point. do not buy them now... wait for later |
steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
938
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:58:00 -
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then why put them on discount im sorry Iron but this unacceptable becuse a lot of the community wont here about this.
this has left a very bad taste in my mouth its borderline false advertising |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6210
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:59:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. ah so they buffing them... i see your point. do not buy them now... wait for later
Buffing? The less you try to read into what I am saying the healthier you would probably be on the subject. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
671
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:01:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. ah so they buffing them... i see your point. do not buy them now... wait for later
YES!!!!
I knew you wouldn't let us down CCP!!!
I'm going to buy even more FLG now that you're buffing them!!! |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
182
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:01:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future. Balance really? Most people who play don't even want them to begin with and you guys what to keep them. CCP how about you pay attention to what a majority of you players want and take a look a at this thread. they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5222
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:03:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:they are here to stay. stop whining...i dont even use them but they are in the game and thats that. I bet you would have said the same thing about Swarm Launchers back in the day
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
921
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion. ah so they buffing them... i see your point. do not buy them now... wait for later Buffing? The less you try to read into what I am saying the healthier you would probably be on the subject. IDC.. i am not paying for them, im a tanker why would i need nades? but from what you are saying they are figuring out to buff them while calling it a nerf. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
719
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:15:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Buffing? The less you try to read into what I am saying the healthier you would probably be on the subject.
IDC.. i am not paying for them, im a tanker why would i need nades? but from what you are saying they are figuring out to buff them while calling it a nerf. He's just saying "don't panic, wait for the changes to arrive before doing something potentionally stupid".
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DARK - IMPULSE
Internal Error. League of Infamy
21
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Word of Warning, Do not stock up on them. 9 words, more info than CCP has given us since the release of contact nades. Well I don't want you guys feel like you got ripped off after the changes, I say wait and see what changes are being made before you decide on buying more. CCP Eterne is right they are getting balanced you should consider what ways they could get balanced and see if that would continue to vibe with your aurum purchases. No they're not getting adjusted to being useless in my opinion.
I refused to use them as they are now. Thanks for the advice.
But i'm not spending a cent more on this game. The game does not deserve it.
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
922
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:25:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Buffing? The less you try to read into what I am saying the healthier you would probably be on the subject.
IDC.. i am not paying for them, im a tanker why would i need nades? but from what you are saying they are figuring out to buff them while calling it a nerf. He's just saying "don't panic, wait for the changes to arrive before doing something potentionally stupid". im pretty much sold that once ps2 comes out there will be no reason for me to play dust again. the only reason right now it my laptop doesn't handle the graphics right or goes slug mode if i try and make it. and i am not getting/making a new laptop/desktop and waiting to see if ccp even wants to try to make a decent game or just a really rather beta change feast. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
184
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:35:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:CCP loves to see the crybabies come out and whine who cares about the contact grenades hell bring more CCP make me some flux fused so I can hit that logi LAV with it and crush his shields if you dont like them dont use them if you like to see people whine and cry like CCP does toss a couple of these out when you see that protosuit coming at you hell yes...you sir know how to have some real fun....even though a am a logi/tanker with no aur i dont mind these contact things one bit......WHO AM I KIDDING PLEASE DONT THROW THOSE THINGS AT ME I DONT WANT TO DIE. |
Monsku Kifini
Rautaleijona Top Men.
67
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:19:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We'll actually have a dev blog out on Contact Grenades and their balance in the near future.
Grenades are on sale and no sign of the dev blog.. What if someone goes and buys loads of these with real money and you go and "balance" these items afterwards?
To be honest, I don't care about people who buy and use contact grenades, but if you courage people to buy these and make changes afterwards, you end up upsetting people who have invested their money on these bs grenades. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
416
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:33:00 -
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Reducing price so more people will buy them using RL currency...
... while announcing in a low-visibility that they are about to be "balanced" (i.e. knowing you are about to nerf them into the ground maybe?)
i hate wearing tinfoil but you guys just set it up too easily: bait & switch. |
lDocHollidayl
Internal Error. League of Infamy
193
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:41:00 -
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CCP can look at stats and see that the contact grenades are not being spammed. When a weapon is over used and OP it is obvious...The kill feed would be littered with it. This is just not the case. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:02:00 -
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I think the logic is simple, they put a item on sale to increase the activity of it. Then they crunch the results and adjust the numbers.
Proto seem to have high fitting costs, so I'm on the fence here..
But fused are a joke with the low skill/fitting costs. AND there only 15 aur..
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2802
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:06:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:CCP can look at stats and see that the contact grenades are not being spammed. When a weapon is over used and OP it is obvious...The kill feed would be littered with it. This is just not the case.
lol?
back to looking at stats? that's done a world of wonders for the game's balance as it is hasn't it? Forget feedback right? Let's look at data collected.
Guess what, that's how Uprising was made. Data and zero feedback. |
Monsku Kifini
Rautaleijona Top Men.
69
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:16:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
Guess what, that's how Uprising was made. Data and zero feedback.
Yeah and how did that go? |
Gods Architect
Internal Error. League of Infamy
229
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:20:00 -
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The GÇ£CavityGÇ¥ M2 Contact Locus Grenade. Damn that sounds pretty nasty. |
Shadow of War88
0uter.Heaven EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:21:00 -
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Monsku Kifini wrote:Your little playerbase has asked you to remove these contact grenades entirely from the game for a long time and what do you do? You make them even cheaper.. PtW here. its like you want us to stop playing this game..
Major PC corps even went and agreed to not use these on PC because they are OP as hell.
I dont get you guys. You say that you listen our feedback and want to improve communication, but obiviosly you just want to spit on our faces and take the money.
chill 1.3 is around the corner n it will be a balance only patch
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