Yesterday a LAV was heading in my direction. When I shot with my railgun the driver was instantly dead, the LAV was unharmed. Clean kill :D

ok so i keep reading posts about the lav and people getting shot out of lav. its not the hit box of the lav its the player inside the vehicle thats the problem. when the lav moves(especially at high speeds) the player isnt moving or rather lagging and the player hit box stays in one place while the lav continues on. the player hitbox is actually outside the lav and constantly glitches from the seat to last known position that the server recognizes. its a latency issue. thus when you shoot a lav the player hit box will be hit first. i think this is also effecting scout suits on the ground. the faster you move the bigger chance of lag and your hit box basically becomes the broad side of a barn or is in multple places at once.

i think this is also effecting scout suits on the ground. the faster you move the bigger chance of lag and your hit box basically becomes the broad side of a barn or is in multple places at once.

Yes! +1.

My 10.73 m/s Scoutly speed tank is broken. Sprinting for cover is akin to becoming a bullet magnet; I'm quite literally better off walking to cover. This observation is as consistent as it is counter-intuitive. Please fix.

Here's a related thread, wherein a clever Scout experiments with his suit's hitbox expansion:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=92132&find=unread

- Shotty GoBang

Hi Ascent Arkrey, thank you for your post. I am just wondering, by the infantry hit box outside the LAV, do you mean you can kill the driver even you are shooting the air or the vehicle? Do you mean that the infantry hit box is actually in front of the where it should be or behind?

Hi Ascent Arkrey, thank you for your post. I am just wondering, by the infantry hit box outside the LAV, do you mean you can kill the driver even you are shooting the air or the vehicle? Do you mean that the infantry hit box is actually in front of the where it should be or behind?

Yes this is exactly what i mean.

Under battlefield conditions Scout suits or any driver of a LAV should draw rounds because of the internal atmospheric pressure differential. Not much admittedly but enough to be deadly for Rail Gun Splash damage.

Have A Nice Death.

Also, my tests have disproven some of the Scout Suit Hit Box being bigger issue. Their bloody arms and weapon are wider when they sprint and therefore must take more room. At least in my few tests. If recording or screen captures were possible then we might solve this a little easier. Oh wait! That is something a developer might be able to borrow from a friend! Or maybe they could enable the hit box to be visible for QA.

Nah. Not gonna happen.

Hi Ascent Arkrey, thank you for your post. I am just wondering, by the infantry hit box outside the LAV, do you mean you can kill the driver even you are shooting the air or the vehicle? Do you mean that the infantry hit box is actually in front of the where it should be or behind?

SoCmdr Wang has weighed in on this phenomena, but only for LAVs (no mention of Scouts).

[BUG] Drivers getting shot out of LAV by turret https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=94426&find=unread
Status: This is by design. Drivers are taking damage as intended.

Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323

- Shotty GoBang

How can it be by design? You can kill the driver and the passenger with a blaster, but it's almost impossibile killing them with an infantry weapon, this can't be by design.

Blasters have a blast radius and a much higher direct damage than a gun (even with a proto blaster it takes me quite a few shots to pop off any passenger however). In any case, I'm always aiming for the driver in my tank because they are usually only wearing scout or assault armor and their HP is far less of the tank (even as a heavy). As for shooting drivers out with "normal guns", if the vehicle's driver is within sights, I've shot plenty of drivers out of a vehicle both in motion and otherwise.

That being said. I'd be all for the LAV passengers being protected by the vehicle's shields (seems silly that it doesn't already). Then, however, I expect the blasters and railguns to get a serious buff to dmg done in order to disrupt shield protection and be the anti-vehicle and/or anti-infantry they are expected to be. I'd also support a reduction to both guns explosive radius as a side effect of this buff. I think the missile turret makes the most sense as an anti infantry vehicle, with the plaster making up the middle ground between it and the railgun.

Hi Ascent Arkrey, thank you for your post. I am just wondering, by the infantry hit box outside the LAV, do you mean you can kill the driver even you are shooting the air or the vehicle? Do you mean that the infantry hit box is actually in front of the where it should be or behind?

Aeon Amadi has proven that the Scout hitbox isn't expanding with speed; rather, it's being dragged behind the player model at a distance determined by that player's land speed:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=95939&find=unread

No idea how this translates to LAV drivers. It could be that your hitbox is dragged somewhere behind your death taxi bumper when you're cruising, and returns to the passenger compartment when you're idling or at rest.

- Shotty GoBang

How can it be by design? You can kill the driver and the passenger with a blaster, but it's almost impossibile killing them with an infantry weapon, this can't be by design.

AND Missile launchers AND railguns...
I find it improbable only blasters are 'intended' to have this... feature.