Please leave all your belongings identified to the Federal Defense Union to the clerk at the counter on your way out, thank you for your cooperation.

As of this moment, I am denouncing my Federation citizenship and converting to the Amarr faith. I have recently seen the light and the error in my ways, and if the Lord would allow me, I would happily help unify New Eden in peace and prosperity. I will be considered a traitor, but the Lord will protect me. Nothing the Gallente can do will harm me now.

You are a traitor of our beloved friends from Minmatar Republic who have long suffered from imperial suppression... This is a sad day for Freedom... Federation will keep to it's promise even more to compensate for your grave error...

Nevertheless, we wish you all the best and coming back one day.

Farewell our Friend...

I will be considered a traitor, but the Lord will protect me.

"The word of the Lord is pure,
It is a shield for the faithful,
Brought unto men by the Angels,
As a guiding light in the darkness "
- The Scriptures, Prophet Anoyia 8:15

You are most wise, soldier. You have my blessings on your path to enlightenment.

You will become a pauper Darth, and a puppet in the hands of Amarr. Expect to be subjected to sublime interrogation and brain washing, stripping you bare of all the freedom you still have... Oh, you calamitous...

You will become a pauper Darth, and a puppet in the hands of Amarr. Expect to be subjected to sublime interrogation and brain washing, stripping you bare of all the freedom you still have... Oh, you calamitous...

You will become a pauper Darth, and a puppet in the hands of Amarr. Expect to be subjected to sublime interrogation and brain washing, stripping you bare of all the freedom you still have... Oh, you calamitous...

I have only been welcomed with open arms by the Amarr, whereas my ex-so called brothers have nothing but threats for me. I can see I have made the right choice.

Goodbye my ex-galletean brethren,remember you did have freedom in federation.look what you think when you arrive in ammarian empire and harrasment starts

The only harrasment I have recieved is from you Gallente. If the Amarr inquire of my knowledge and information from life in the Federation, so be it. It is the least I can do for them accepting me so willingly with open arms.

Goodbye my ex-galletean brethren,remember you did have freedom in federation.look what you think when you arrive in ammarian empire and harrasment starts

He's a willing convert to the Amarrian faith, and a clone soldier besides. This does not seem like a combination likely to draw harassment from the Amarr.

Our Friend. Your allegations against Federation are grave indeed.

I have been chastised by my fellow Intaki for being judgmental. Forgive me. We should fully support you in seeking your Light. We've failed. That is most regrettable. Remember that you carry that Light in your Heart wherever your feet may carry you...

Please, before you leave Federation space, can you present us with exhausting evidence for you being harassed by Federation Citizens? We have been presented with bitterness with no substance so far. It may be too late for You to forgive all wrongs done to you but it might prevent others from suffering if all wrongs are pointed, met with justice and righted away. Please do this last favor for Federation in the name of the Light you seek.

You simply spouting with insincerity the word of the Intaki faith does not hold sway here Gallentean. I have much respect for those Intaki with the integrity to hold true to their faith, however to me you words ring false.

All you have to do is look through the logs of this summit and you will see this harassment this son of God has faced for following his beliefs.

You simply spouting with insincerity the word of the Intaki faith does not hold sway here Gallentean. I have much respect for those Intaki with the integrity to hold true to their faith, however to me you words ring false.

All you have to do is look through the logs of this summit and you will see this harassment this son of God has faced for following his beliefs.

I tried to look for logs, but I did not see anything that could be counted as harrasment by the Gallente, at least specifically towards Fett. The only one that could be remotely counted as harrasment is the one Mr. Robert made himself here after he had made a decision to leave the Federation and join with your God.

As for the Intaki faith Adamance, some might argue that it is not a faith at all, rather a way of thinking or a philosophy. Even the name of our faith, Ida means roughly to consider or considering. I do not personally follow Ida, but I do believe in some of their beliefs, being considerate of your words is one of them. And there is a saying Idama use, acuudetha aahnd arodaava, acudeetha adyanvadtun kamiaakelyl. It means the wise forget insults, the ungrateful kindness. Despite my findings Fett may have been insulted by his fellow Peers or even by me, but as far as I know forgiveness is one of the things you believe in, wouldn't it be reasonable to at least forgive these insults if not stay Gallentean?

As for Mr Roberts, the best way to not have people become bitter of the Federation and convert to other nations is to show kindness and respect. It may not always show fruitable results, but it will at least help. Regardless, I respect Fett's decision, despite it appearing otherwise with the snarky comment I made earlier, and I wish he finds what he seeks with his endeavors.

And this is why you step to the Amarr side? They involve themselves in killing Gallente too! That's illogical! Your initial statement implied you joined the Amarr on religious ground. Now this?

You should seek resolving this troublesome matters while you enjoy Amarrian sojourn. The guilty of the atrocities you describe should be put on trial!

Darth, i no longer question your motives. Forgive me judging you. But for all what is close to your Heart, I beg you to provide evidence for bringing guilty on Gallente side to justice. Does this has anything to do with corruption and wrong doings accusations pointed at Black Eagles?

Yes, it was those damn Black Eagles, and their leader, Mentas Blaque. Please, just bring him to justice.

I am afraid without your active participation this will be quite difficult. But not impossible. Any lethal threats and possible retaliations won't stop me from resolving this intrigue. I am Immortal Mercenary. And I am Intaki. I don't bother with dying even more. I will use my previous re-births' contacts if necessary.

Yes, but I'm afraid that the Black Eagles might just find a way to kill immortal soldiers permanently. I was never in their research in development department, but they had an awful large black budget.

Don't bother with this. We Intaki are taught how to re-born without any technological crutches. Of course it will take more time if this will be the case but any delay will not be longer than 1-3 years. It takes time to learn to speak again as a child you know

(...)Ah yes I quite forgot that practice of newborn babies... unfortunately I am but a clone soldier, so I must rely on technology. Pretty sure the Black Eagles are coming for me, but I'll have a scrambler rifle pointed at the door always.

*Snort* So the Amarr have taken another slave/slaver? Sounds like business as usual. Later traitor, we'll see if your "God" saves you from you from a sudden "Clone Malfunction" upon your next death.

Wait you've said you crossed to Amarr space already. Do BEs operate outside of Federal space now? This is not legal for sure!

*Snort* So the Amarr have taken another slave/slaver? Sounds like business as usual. Later traitor, we'll see if your "God" saves you from you from a sudden "Clone Malfunction" upon your next death.

*Snort* So the Amarr have taken another slave/slaver? Sounds like business as usual. Later traitor, we'll see if your "God" saves you from you from a sudden "Clone Malfunction" upon your next death.

*Snort* So the Amarr have taken another slave/slaver? Sounds like business as usual. Later traitor, we'll see if your "God" saves you from you from a sudden "Clone Malfunction" upon your next death.

Not sure, but they do preform lots of Black Ops type missions and reconnaisance. They could be in Amarr space without the Amarr knowing.

As of this moment, I am denouncing my Federation citizenship and converting to the Amarr faith. I have recently seen the light and the error in my ways, and if the Lord would allow me, I would happily help unify New Eden in peace and prosperity. I will be considered a traitor, but the Lord will protect me. Nothing the Gallente can do will harm me now.

Great; I would much rather deal with the Amarr than the Gallente.

I personally have no problem with the genuine Ammarian religion, I do however kill all fanatics and slavers (without remorse) who use it to justify inhumane acts. So don't become one of them and I'm perfectly fine with this.

well, I hate to see a brother fall to religious callings but hey, some of us were born into the wrong idealistic surroundings, good luck with your conversion into an amarrian and I will see you in battle..

I don't care for any of the empires anymore... the gallente even though I am of pure blood means very little to me anymore, the caldari I still hate because of their reputation of only wanting profit, the minmitar are weak in my eyes as they have inferior technology to anyone, the amarr I really hate because of their use of slavery...

all in all I hate everyone and everything and I wish to it all destroyed.... I know what I fight for now, its not for freedom or ideals of the federation, the republic, the state or the empire, I fight for vengeance against those that dare to ignore me and to strike endless fear into the innocence and cause horrific events that cause fear for those who hear of my name....

the empires are weak, and I want to see everything burn into oblivion.

I was wondering when the first powerhungry and insane clone soldier would appear, just as Yun predicted. Honestly I'm not surprised that it's Gallentean.

Evil is on every side, my friend. Just because one asks up does not mean that the whole side is at fault, just that one individual.

are you sure you are not making a grave mistake fellow gallentean. For here in the federation, you have freedom of religeon, you don't need to renounce your citizenship, you are welcome to stay here, in this magnificent democracy, yet still have your beliefs.

You can argue that clone soldiers are capsuleers are on no one's side, and fight only for their own interests. Sure, there are the few who show loyalty to a cause, but you can't deny the fact that the majority of clone soldier show their loyalty to ISK. That is why I am concerned, as that path can soon lead to madness, as Void has already demonstrated.

And the comment about not being surprised that the first madman is Gallentean was based on the fact that pretty much all Gallenteans here showed religion-like fanaticism to the Federation and were willing to kill every single Amarr and Caldari just cause they hate them, not to mention most of them seemed to have an IQ smaller than their shoe size.

Democracy is a dangerous concept and one inherently flawed.

What is the issue with not being allowed to do certain things if they lead to corruption, or debasement, and keep me from despair?

Xavier, you speak of some ideal world that does not exist. Truth is everything that we do has some effect on others. You may think if you keep drugs, alcohol, and prostitution to yourself you are not harming anyone, but these horrible actions are like diseases and they spread. Just look at the facts,

Children under 12 having tried drugs in the last month
Gallente - 33%
Amarr - 1%

Children 13-17 having tried drugs in the last month
Gallente - 71%
Amarr - 5%

Children exposed to drugs in the home in the last month
Gallente - 83%
Amarr - 2%

These are reports from seven years ago, just imagine how much more these behaviors have spread. Do not think that this is not harming your society and your people.

Within the Federation, you raise people under the idea of liberty for the self, indulgence for the self, and a strong focus in self-interest. What this results in is a society built around selfishness, where every decision is made without consideration for the well being of others, where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, where racial discrimination can thrive.

Xavier, you speak of some ideal world that does not exist. Truth is everything that we do has some effect on others. You may think if you keep drugs, alcohol, and prostitution to yourself you are not harming anyone, but these horrible actions are like diseases and they spread. Just look at the facts,

Children under 12 having tried drugs in the last month
Gallente - 33%
Amarr - 1%

Children 13-17 having tried drugs in the last month
Gallente - 71%
Amarr - 5%

Children exposed to drugs in the home in the last month
Gallente - 83%
Amarr - 2%

These are reports from seven years ago, just imagine how much more these behaviors have spread. Do not think that this is not harming your society and your people.

Within the Federation, you raise people under the idea of liberty for theself, indulgence for the self, and a strong focus in self-interest. What this results in is a society built around selfishness, where every decision is made without consideration for the well being of others, where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, where racial discrimination can thrive.

*Gasp*

Whether or not you admit it Xavier this is you culture. You cannot be in the middle here. To deny your very own people, and their outlooks, you culture is to weaken you stance when you criticise anothers culture.

Propaganda at it's finest!

Oh, and I'm happy that all those children have used drugs. In fact, I worried for the ones who don't. Why is that? Well, medicine has shown to be beneficial to help with sickness or generally support one's well-being.

Selfishness? Greed? They are both good.


Yes, I know. Shocking. Perhaps a Caldari could help me with this one? Even though they do take this principal too far...

Greed makes the world go round. Money makes the world go round. It is an incentive. Why would I create a business? To make money. Not to help. Not to give my product away. But for money, is all. How is this bad? How is someone making the economy stronger by creating new private businesses? What is the matter with self-interest? What is the matter with selfishness? Nothing, as long as it does not harm another.

Selfishness? Greed? They are both good.

[...] Perhaps a Caldari could help me with this one? Even though they do take this principal too far...

Greed makes the world go round. Money makes the world go round. It is an incentive. Why would I create a business? To make money. Not to help. Not to give my product away. But for money, is all. How is this bad? How is someone making the economy stronger by creating new private businesses? What is the matter with self-interest? What is the matter with selfishness? Nothing, as long as it does not harm another.

Propaganda at it's finest!

Oh, and I'm happy that all those children have used drugs. In fact, I worried for the ones who don't. Why is that? Well, medicine has shown to be beneficial to help with sickness or generally support one's well-being.

Again, you know not of what you speak of. The last word anyone would use to describe the Caldari is selfishness, they are all about the better of the whole, not the individual. Their motto is "All for the good of many." Tell me, Xavier, where did you go for your education?

Mr. Hastings, you ... misunderstand, rather badly.

The Caldari State has been described as a capitalist melee, but the corporations are also governing entities. Caldari citizenship is corporate-- one is normally a "citizen" of one's employer. There is no outside entity that looks out for the well-being of the Caldari people.

The problem with selfishness is that it inspires corporate leaders to take shameless advantage of this situation by undermining the corporate meritocracy in the name of protecting their own power and their descendants. This, coupled with abuse of their power over the technician and laborer castes, led to the "Brothers of Freedom" incident in which New Eden first learned the name, "Tibus Heth."

The Caldari leadership, selected on merit, rules for the good of those it rules over. For this, the State's leaders are rewarded well. It is when they believe they owe the Caldari they rule over nothing, and that they can do as they please in search of their own self-interest, that the system becomes unstable-- and the people rise.

When that happens, the result is not good for the Gallente: the technician and laborer castes, contrary to what (somehow still) seems to be common belief among outsiders, are often among the most conservative of the Caldari. When they rise, it is not to embrace the new, but to enforce the old.

As the Caldari say, "The Winds care about us, not about you or me."

The individual is only a means to an end, not an end in itself-- not even its own.

This is quite interesting. Thank you for this tidbit of information.

Alas, so you wish to renounce citizenship for a God that you cannot prove? Ha! Folly at its best.

The Amarr willingly oppress the Minmatar, our most loyal allies. Actually, no. Oppress is too light of a word. Oppress is too dignified of a word to justify what they are doing! They enslave them, comrade. Can you not see that? Enslave them in the name of their God. To them, the enslavement is just a steppingstone across the river of Religious Faith.

Believe in their God. So be it. If reason cannot penetrate that thick skull of yours, fine. But to renounce the very embodiment of Freedom in this Galaxy to join an empire whose main policy is to enslave others under he guise of Religion?

Absurd, sir. Absurd.

Aye, but as you might not realize, I would not be slaving. I would be fighting for the Amarr, who happen to award very generously. Getting used to the weaponry and the differences in the suit has taken a little while, but I'm getting used to it. And why are you taking offense at my choice to leave? The Gallentte promoted personal liberty, so I used it to leave the Federation. And another thing, the enslaved Minmitar aren't treated as harshly as everyone seems to think. Most teachers are very patient with the Minmitar, and they are well on their way to joining the Empire. Some of the largest and most respect groups in the Empire were once slaves.

I actually have no quarrels with the Caldari. The war between us should of been solved peacefully. But, alas, it was not meant to be.

Interestingly enough, the Gallente were the ones who initiated the violence. Playing off of what Mister Fett has just said, the Federation is all about personal liberty except when you use that liberty to leave.

Aye, but as you might not realize, I would not be slaving. I would be fighting for the Amarr, who happen to award very generously. Getting used to the weaponry and the differences in the suit has taken a little while, but I'm getting used to it. And why are you taking offense at my choice to leave? The Gallentte promoted personal liberty, so I used it to leave the Federation. And another thing, the enslaved Minmitar aren't treated as harshly as everyone seems to think. Most teachers are very patient with the Minmitar, and they are well on their way to joining the Empire. Some of the largest and most respect groups in the Empire were once slaves.

Xavier...... Loyal Allies.... you mean a people you openly discriminate against and use as pawns to prevent our Empire turning its gaze to your borders?

But this wise convert speaks the truth. He is wise to have chosen to enter a covenant with God, his soul shall be forever immortalised in our histories, and our soldiers shall stand shoulder to shoulder with him, honoured to fight and die by his side.

Amarr Victor brother, serve with honour, pride, and courage.

Who started what really depends on your point of view.

Enough, Adamance! You refuse to actually listen to what I say! You hold on to your belief with such a stubbornness I could never fathom! Read my words! Understand what I say!

Slavery is slavery, no matter how hard you are pushed, no matter how hard you toil. In the Federation you have Freedom of Religion. You may believe in whatever God you choose. Or, believe in none at all, as I do. But when you leave our great nation to fight against our very way of life, sir, then I have a problem.


Enough, Adamance! You refuse to actually listen to what I say! You hold on to your belief with such a stubbornness I could never fathom! Read my words! Understand what I say!

In our great nation, discrimination is present. I will admit that. I do admit we have faults. It is unfortunate on what some Minmatar face. But, it is a problem that I believe is getting better. Tolerance is increasing.

Also, define "you". If you mean "you" as in me, then I have nothing further to say to you, because apparently you are so blinded that you simply spit out all the folly you were taught, not even listening to my words. I have nothing against the Minmatar, and I find that quite evident. If you mean "you" as in the Gallente Federation, then yes, it is present. But, it is nothing compared to what you put them through each day.

Do not look upon Amarr slaverly as exploitative discrimination. We do not seek profit from their demise, that is not our nature. Think of the Minmatar as children and the Amarr their parents. We give them chores to build their character, but nothing unreasonable. While they may do these chores, we still care for and respect them. We feed them, clothe them, shelter them. We educate them, and guide them down the right path. All of this is done out of a parents love. Now tell me, do you condemn parenthood?

If there is anything the Amarr are guilty of, it is not protecting our children from the serpents.

I lost my parents, I figure I turned out just fine.

Haha!... I actually hate my life.

Mister Hasting, since you have came to the Summit all you have brought is shouting and laughing at those who do no agree with your logic. Within the summit you are permitted to voice your opinion, but please try to remain civil.

"Even if the Federation was high on victory against the State, military leaders knew that opening a second full-scale war against the Amarr Empire would be fatal. Nonetheless, for a long time, the Federation government observed and studied the Minmatar, realizing that they could be used to weaken the Amarr Empire. However, they realized that open action would force hostilities with the Empire, so they were only able to covertly supply the Minmatar rebels with supplies and materiel."


Percieving my Faith to be ignorance only weakens you stance. Against I understand what it is the Gallente are, and for that I condemn them.

What I cannot accept is the Federations actively allowing its people to corrupt their immortal souls and commit heresies in the name of this "freedom" you preach.

(( you also cannot judge Amarrian slavery by the same standards we OOC would judge slavery, in New Eden the Amarr do it for Faith, unity, and to test the the races they enslave to induct them into the Empire))

Portray me as the villain here? *Sigh*, I suppose I must explain again.

I say I do not agree with you, you claim that I do not understand. I say I do, and say such things as you do because of religion, their toil cause them to be closer to God, ect. Then you further claim that I do not understand, and say exactly when I said previous. I then direct you to what I say previously, then repeat what I said, and now we are at a point you say to say I am yelling. In the Federation, this would be a clear sign of defeat, for the person using these ad hominems perceived to be doing so because they have nothing else to say.

[OOC] The exclamation points were only for emphasis. Sorry if anyone was confused. [/OOC]


I perceive your faith as ignorance because I believe faith itself is ignorance. Of course, that is a discussion for another day, but it does not weaken any stance.

Unlike you, I believe that believe are able to do as they choose, not do what someone else (you, your God) tells them to.

[OOC] You believe I don't understand out of character too? Read my posts, comrade. I explicitly say that I understand that is unity and religion. The fact that my character does not agree with this is, in my opinion, perfectly acceptable. [/OOC]


Here is a quote of what I have said in the past:

Enough, Adamance. I have said this many times before. Quit lying to people and saying that I do not, it is simply not true.

Slavery is not parenthood. You may clothe them. You may feed them. They may be the most pampered people in the universe, but it would not matter. The slavery is abhorred. The work you make them do, abhorred. Even though you may do all the aforementioned things above, they still suffer. All in the name of your God. And that, my friend, is the worst of all.

Why is slavery abhorred?

It is because I simply believe the toil they go through is not worth it. The hardships your nation purposefully puts onto them, not worth it. The reason does not matter. The fact that you force them to go through pain and suffering is simply, in my opinion, abhorred. They are human beings, Adamance. No-one deserves to go through that.

But it is worth them going through the toil and suffering to reach enlightenment. Only after which may they know true peace and a fulfilled life.

I must disagree. I have not toiled like they have. I have not suffered like they have, but I am content and happy with my life. It is not just me, there are millions of other people who are content, happy, and at peace without the burden of slavery.

Furthermore, how do we know this enlightenment even exists? It could all be psychological. Almost everything has a logical explanation.

BUt you could be more satisfied with you life correct?

And only in God's service do we know true joy.

Let us not forget that those who live in the slums of the federation are worse off than those in servitude to the Empire.

As of this moment, I am denouncing my Federation citizenship and converting to the Amarr faith. I have recently seen the light and the error in my ways, and if the Lord would allow me, I would happily help unify New Eden in peace and prosperity. I will be considered a traitor, but the Lord will protect me. Nothing the Gallente can do will harm me now.

Biomass your self and create a Amarr character with the same name. Thank you.

But as far as I know, they have never killed their own in political foul play, due to the structure of their government. I met an Amarrian merchant whislt doing my work, and he got me thinking, for the first time in my life, that I could choose to not go with the Federation's bidding. I was much more open to... Outside influence due to my mental state at the time because of said attrocities, and the Amarr happened to be there, particularly this one Amarr merchent, Randerre Izkomust, blessed be him He offered me free passage to the Amarr Empire, and all I need to due was folllow their, quite sensible, religion. Once I borded his ship, he gave me a copy of some Amarr scripture, and told me to study it. And now I am a faithful servant of the Empress and the Lord.

Let us not forget that those who live in the slums of the federation are worse off than those in servitude to the Empire.