I'm so tired of hearing this. Try not staying still when I blast you? Simple as that, how is it op? 3 shots per clip. Jump when you see me shoot or stay in a elevated place to avoid the small blast radius. Really, it's sad when people cry about something that kills them. It takes about 6 shots to take down a heavy, and that's a std heavy. Kill the attacker before he reloads. Flay lock isn't op
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Lol people make me laugh, it's usually the ones with the low kd that cry about op

Is this guy serious?

A heavy jump? LOL

Move out the way? Have you seen the Movement speed on a heavy suit?

Buddy you should be a comedian cause you have jokes for days.

It takes a maximum of 4 shots to take me down using splash damage from a Flaylock.

I can't kill a medium suit with less HP using my Boundless before I get taken down by a Flaylock. There is definitely something wrong with that picture.

STD Heavy has the Same Exact HP as Proto the difference is the Standard Basic has 1H/2L slot the Proto has 2H/3L. So that argument is entirely irrelevant. It is however indicative of the fact that the Heavies need more High and Low Slots, but thats another discussion.

If it takes you 6 shots to take down a Heavy with a Flaylock dude you suck at this game.

Know what? I don't know what kind it was, but I played a match earlier where everyone in my squad got one shotted by some prick with a flay lock. There wasn't even time to react, you were just dead.

Say what you want, but any gun that lets one guy dominate a fight is a tad op.

While I agree that the Flaylock pistols do seem overpowered I would like to propose that rather that kill a good for killing with gun we consider an addition of a few modules to help us deal with damage better if we can fit them rather than a nerf.

Resistance Modules to increase damage type resistance to specific types of damage. This is taken straight from Eve and has a very real presence in new eden already for many mission runners. The wide variety of fits mean that there would not be an op button fix with these as generally they are damage type specific resistance and so would allow other damage types that were not that specific type to deal damage as if the resistance plates or shielding were not there. Please note an Adaptive Invulnerability field in Eve grants multiple resistance types at a lesser amount than the specific resistance modules. We would need both Shield and Armor resistance modules.

Reflective plating could reflect laser and splash damage away from the user allowing the user to be hit for full damage from a direct hit by a mass driver, forge gun or flaylock and still be killed through direct damage yet the plash damage wouldn't touch the user and allow them to jump or walk out of the way without adverse affect.

Both of these types of modules should be able to be used simultaneously and without movement penalties. This would allow an armor tanker or shield tanker to put an Adaptive invulnerability field and Reflective plating on a suit to resist some damage while adding an armor plate or shield extender to increase their armor or shield HP respectively and make it harder to one shot kill enemies and making another way of protecting yourself in a way that doesn't make you a slower moving target.

I own a dren heavy, I didn't say that heavy have to jump. wasnt talking about heavies at first. And I hope you know if it takes 4 shots to take down a heavy is only if it's all "good" hits. The flaylock have 3 shots per clip, I run a basic min light suit at level 3 as my main. A heavy has more than enough punch to take me out during a reload. Shotguns are better at anti heavy than flay locks. The reason I said six was because heavies aren't always alone, so I take quick shots to avoid being hit by a large crowd. 1 on 1 I can only take out a heavy if can run for cover or jump behind to reload. You try using the flay and tell me how you will do. Yeah I admit it is a powerful weapon but you have to take to account that every gun in the game. Besides av weapons are meant to take someone out in 1-2 clips. Flay locks have 3 shots per clip, so you have to make each shot count or you're dead. Just saying. I used to think it was op until I actually started to use it and it does require some skill to use, it isn't your average point shoot weapons like you guys think it is.

OwnD07 From BetaMax went 52/4 using almost exclusively Thukker Contact Grenades and a Core Flaylock Pistol. He was in a Proto Caldari ASSault Suit.

These weapons are ridiculous!

He is the ONLY person on his team that killed me the entire match. The second he pulled out an actual gun I destroyed him.

I run Amarr Heavy Frame A1-Series with a Boundless 1028 total HP

Just to add my $.02:

Today I was in a pub battle playing HMG heavy. I ran into a proto assault Caldari using Core Fla.ock twice. Of course, I got massacred both times. It was a 1:1 engagement both times. I'm not complaining for getting killed by a proto guy. He was, of course, strafing and hopping while shooting me, and I didn't manage to damage him much. BUT, if for some reason the guy decided to just stay still and shoot at me, it would STILL be a no-contest duel. A. inst a heavy, he could just stand there, soak my damage and still kill me before I kill him. So, that's me using a. heavy weapon", and him using a "sidearm weapon". LOL.

Anyway, I decided that, from now on, until flaylock is nerfed, when I see that the opposing team uses mostly flaylocks, I'll just switch to sniper or forge, say FYVM, climb the nearest high ground and start kill whoring.

Now what's next? After they nerf the flay lock and mess it up like they did to the masses driver are you going to complain about shot guns and scrambler pistol are op? seriously i csn even own a heavy with just that. I can even use a milita shotgun to take down a heavy. Stop moving in obvious patterns. The gun has only a 1.5 blast radius, you can outrun that easily. A heavy just has to throw nades ans spam the heck out of the attacker. The flay can't kill a heavy in 3 shots and rarely 4. So just shoot him down. I sometimes use my dren heavy which is the same as a std heavy, and I take out flaylockers like nothing.

It has a 2.5m blast radius.

And if you can't kill a heavy in 5 shots, and a medium in 3-4 shots... its because you lack skill. There are a great many skilled players who can do it and just lulz about how imbalanced it is.

Is this guy serious?

A heavy jump? LOL

Move out the way? Have you seen the Movement speed on a heavy suit?

Buddy you should be a comedian cause you have jokes for days.

It takes a maximum of 4 shots to take me down using splash damage from a Flaylock.

I can't kill a medium suit with less HP using my Boundless before I get taken down by a Flaylock. There is definitely something wrong with that picture.

STD Heavy has the Same Exact HP as Proto the difference is the Standard Basic has 1H/2L slot the Proto has 2H/3L. So that argument is entirely irrelevant. It is however indicative of the fact that the Heavies need more High and Low Slots, but thats another discussion.

If it takes you 6 shots to take down a Heavy with a Flaylock dude you suck at this game.

Now what's next? After they nerf the flay lock and mess it up like they did to the masses driver are you going to complain about shot guns and scrambler pistol are op? seriously i csn even own a heavy with just that. I can even use a milita shotgun to take down a heavy. Stop moving in obvious patterns. The gun has only a 1.5 blast radius, you can outrun that easily. A heavy just has to throw nades ans spam the heck out of the attacker. The flay can't kill a heavy in 3 shots and rarely 4. So just shoot him down. I sometimes use my dren heavy which is the same as a std heavy, and I take out flaylockers like nothing.

You're wrong kid. The core has a 2.0 blast radius. The lvl 4 has a 1.5. So yeah you're wrong, I said rarely 4 or 5 shot, the whole statement you made was invalid. And dude the core is a proto weapons, so it has to be worth skilling into. and trust me i can own you even with out my flaylocks so yea you lack skill. Kthxbye

You're wrong kid. The core has a 2.0 blast radius. The lvl 4 has a 1.5. So yeah you're wrong, I said rarely 4 or 5 shot, the whole statement you made was invalid. And dude the core is a proto weapons, so it has to be worth skilling into. and trust me i can own you even with out my flaylocks so yea you lack skill. Kthxbye

Flaylock Pistol Operation: Increases blast radius by 5% per level. You cannot have a core flaylock with less than 2.5m splash.. period.

Sorry kid, you're wrong.

Pauses Skyrim.

BEFORE we had MORE than 9000 folks online in Dust then CCP buffed LLAVS so they were just about unkillable and then added the flaylocks and for good measure hey!! fused locus contact nades that are zero skill requirements.

AFTER
And during a triple SP event we were LESS than 6000 folks online in Dust.
Now during Mordus Event its LESS than 5000 folks online.

I say either CCP fixes things and fast or folks will continue to vote to play other games.


Looks at PS4 pre-order and goes back to playing Skyrim.

OwnD07 From BetaMax went 52/4 using almost exclusively Thukker Contact Grenades and a Core Flaylock Pistol. He was in a Proto Caldari ASSault Suit.

These weapons are ridiculous!

He is the ONLY person on his team that killed me the entire match. The second he pulled out an actual gun I destroyed him.

I run Amarr Heavy Frame A1-Series with a Boundless 1028 total HP

Lol that's probably why he used those weapons, cuz you got mad from dying , started playing dumb out of anger an he finally decided to give you a fighting chance so he used a gun to give you a tad bit of pride then proceeded to waste you.
Dude explosive weapons are your weakness your fat an slow- deal wit it.
I run scout an knives you think I would even go near a guy running that on his fit?
You should have picked a different side of the map!
Plus heavies are a threat my knive take you out of the pack first, why?
BECAUSE ITS A SMART STRATIGIC PLAY THAT'S WHY!
You take the queen off the chess board as soon as you can, face it your a queen lol

You act like a little child and smash your fist down on the chess board wrecking the game (flaylock user) because you have no strategical skills and nobody has fun playing the game!

people need to use strategy when facing different weapons if a flaylock user shoots at your feet hop around and shoot don't stand there like an idiot then complain on the forums