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Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
202
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Posted - 2013.07.12 06:52:00 -
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I saw in my last match, 2 corporations, boosting in the hills.
They were taking turns killing each other and hacking and rehacking each others' vehicles.
Needless to say, the corp in question on our team doing this was Stand Alone Clones.
My corp, The.Primes, and my allies, The Phoenix Federation, put a stop to that bull real quick.
This is some uber bullshit and really destroys the game. |
Malik loves Love
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.07.12 06:54:00 -
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Sweet, sweet tears. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
264
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Posted - 2013.07.12 06:56:00 -
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Good work, son. This was truly the blight eating at Dust within, such activities are heinous and worthy of indignation, nay, begging for it.
You and your boys are doing God's work. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
202
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Posted - 2013.07.12 06:57:00 -
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Malik loves Love wrote:Sweet, sweet tears. I assume you do the same thing.
All of your kind really try hard to **** on this game.
The community is really one of the worsts.
All FPS communities are.
CCP really needs to de-emphisize the FPS in this game both in marketing and development.
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Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
312
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Posted - 2013.07.12 06:59:00 -
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Funny, have bee thinking about this "exploit" yesterday Well instead of whining i would cheer people who despite being pitted against each other, behave out of the box and are capable of cooperation This is good sign It reminds me of DUST Karting thread |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
265
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:03:00 -
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Really, of all the things to get up in arms about, you're going with -this-?
Some fellas just want to meet the finnicky requirement for getting free stuff so they can get on with playing in their normal fashion.
At least they're actually doing something in the game. It's not quite as dead as the ol' MCC disco which is an enduring problem, this current 'issue' is wholly transient. |
Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
176
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:06:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:I saw in my last match, 2 corporations, boosting in the hills.
They were taking turns killing each other and hacking and rehacking each others' vehicles.
Needless to say, the corp in question on our team doing this was Stand Alone Clones.
My corp, The.Primes, and my allies, The Phoenix Federation, put a stop to that bull real quick.
This is some uber bullshit and really destroys the game. LOL, new exploit.
LOL we shot som guys in the hills who were not shooting back.
The 'exploit' is old, you seem to be new. |
Wakko03
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
243
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:21:00 -
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They should have went invisible to do it.
When I tried to look up the dev post about the prizes it just told me that leaving the site would possibly lead to spoofing so I didn't bother.... what are the chances of being able to use the prizes without having spent close to 2-3 million in SP to do so?
I no longer care about the money, I have enough so there is no reason for me to worry about trading on the market place or getting rid of the junk that has built up even it is the same thing with just a different name or color, even though CCP reduced the junk collection down to 1 in most cases.... really I killed 25 and had 25 assists with only 2 deaths; hit for the cycle 1 tank, 1 lav, 1 dropship 3 times..... you telling me I only looted 1 M8 Locus Grenade made the 298,000 isk worth it..... do I have a BINGO?
There is a disconnect from CCP and the players. |
Scotty2Hottie6
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:29:00 -
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Boosting is part of EVERY ONLINE game, deal with it |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
202
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:34:00 -
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Scotty2Hottie6 wrote:Boosting is part of EVERY ONLINE game, deal with it Your attitude is disgusting and contributes nothing to this community.
In fact, the majority of this community contribute nothing. |
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GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
47
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:41:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:I saw in my last match, 2 corporations, boosting in the hills.
They were taking turns killing each other and hacking and rehacking each others' vehicles.
Needless to say, the corp in question on our team doing this was Stand Alone Clones.
My corp, The.Primes, and my allies, The Phoenix Federation, put a stop to that bull real quick.
This is some uber bullshit and really destroys the game.
You cant stop them besides killing them over and over. Just pop the LAV and kill the drop uplink |
Malik loves Love
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:45:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Scotty2Hottie6 wrote:Boosting is part of EVERY ONLINE game, deal with it Your attitude is disgusting and contributes nothing to this community. In fact, the majority of this community contribute nothing. Yeah, there's a bit of that going around based on the amount of ranting I see.
The ranters help how?
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
268
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:50:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:I saw in my last match, 2 corporations, boosting in the hills.
They were taking turns killing each other and hacking and rehacking each others' vehicles.
This is some uber bullshit and really destroys the game.
Is this guy for real?
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1086
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:50:00 -
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Honestly that is a minor issue and expected, now you want something annoying then play right now and witness the amount of explosive spam going on, the kill feeds are made up of mass drivers, flaylocks, and LAVs and you cant go within 50 meters of an objective without hearing explosions |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
203
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:58:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Honestly that is a minor issue and expected, now you want something annoying then play right now and witness the amount of explosive spam going on, the kill feeds are made up of mass drivers, flaylocks, and LAVs and you cant go within 50 meters of an objective without hearing explosions There are already a **** ton of threads addressing that BS.
Enough has been said, and enough has been ignored by CCP. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1086
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Posted - 2013.07.12 08:07:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Honestly that is a minor issue and expected, now you want something annoying then play right now and witness the amount of explosive spam going on, the kill feeds are made up of mass drivers, flaylocks, and LAVs and you cant go within 50 meters of an objective without hearing explosions There are already a **** ton of threads addressing that BS. Enough has been said, and enough has been ignored by CCP.
You misunderstand and Im not even talking about weapon balancing just explosive spamming in general Due to the event everyone is doing their best to get kills so they can get their rewards which has led to mass explosives spamming as a large quantity of people try to kill steal from each other with the splash damage |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
2078
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Posted - 2013.07.12 08:53:00 -
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Hi all,
We understand that there are limitations in-game currently that needs to be improved and we are taking steps to address them. With Uprising 1.2 we've introduced some of the changes to improve gameplay and we will continue to do so with subsequent updates in shorter cycles.
In the mean time, we're hosting in-game events to spice things up for our players and keeping people engaged in DUST. As more improvements are introduced into the game, the better and more varied our in-game events will become. We certainly appreciate your feedback on the events and will be improving them overtime.
Our Mordus' Challenge event dev blog has now been updated with rules that clearly define what actions will count towards meeting the event requirements. Please view them at http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/mordus-legion-announces-mordus-challenge/ for more details.
Thank you. |
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
679
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Posted - 2013.07.12 08:57:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, We understand that there are limitations in-game currently that needs to be improved and we are taking steps to address them. With Uprising 1.2 we've introduced some of the changes to improve gameplay and we will continue to do so with subsequent updates in shorter cycles. In the mean time, we're hosting in-game events to spice things up for our players and keeping people engaged in DUST. As more improvements are introduced into the game, the better and more varied our in-game events will become. We certainly appreciate your feedback on the events and will be improving them overtime. Our Mordus' Challenge event dev blog has now been updated with rules that clearly define what actions will count towards meeting the event requirements. Please view them at http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/mordus-legion-announces-mordus-challenge/ for more details. Thank you.
TL;DR
If people want to screw around and abuse the system, then it's Ok as long as they are actively playing the game. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
248
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Posted - 2013.07.12 08:58:00 -
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I wish people would stop ******* with the system. Like really, I killed already about 20ish vehicles. Now, that's gone. That's complete bullshit |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2692
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Posted - 2013.07.12 08:58:00 -
[20] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, We understand that there are limitations in-game currently that needs to be improved and we are taking steps to address them. With Uprising 1.2 we've introduced some of the changes to improve gameplay and we will continue to do so with subsequent updates in shorter cycles. In the mean time, we're hosting in-game events to spice things up for our players and keeping people engaged in DUST. As more improvements are introduced into the game, the better and more varied our in-game events will become. We certainly appreciate your feedback on the events and will be improving them overtime. Our Mordus' Challenge event dev blog has now been updated with rules that clearly define what actions will count towards meeting the event requirements. Please view them at http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/mordus-legion-announces-mordus-challenge/ for more details. Thank you.
Mr Wang, correct if I'm wrong, but your reply had nothing to do with the OP... exploits and such. |
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
311
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Posted - 2013.07.12 08:59:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:TL;DR If people want to screw around and abuse the system, then it's Ok as long as they are actively playing the game. Rules clearly state that abusing the system does not count towards the goal. Read the link first. |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
311
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:00:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Mr Wang, correct if I'm wrong, but your reply had nothing to do with the OP... exploits and such. Rule:
- Vehicle hacks do not count
- Qualifying actions: Objective points i.e. A, B, and C points in skirmish gamemode, turrets, CRU, and Supply Depots
Rule:
- Kills from suicides and friendly sources do not count
- Qualifying actions: kills scored with projectile, melee, grenade, vehicles, turrets, and orbital strikes
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tholosol
Stand Alone Clones
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:13:00 -
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Actually vehicle hacks don't count. We weren't sure so we tried it and then went and won our game. I think you're mad because since we had you on scanner you got killed twice and we hacked your vehicle |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
204
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:15:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, We understand that there are limitations in-game currently that needs to be improved and we are taking steps to address them. With Uprising 1.2 we've introduced some of the changes to improve gameplay and we will continue to do so with subsequent updates in shorter cycles. In the mean time, we're hosting in-game events to spice things up for our players and keeping people engaged in DUST. As more improvements are introduced into the game, the better and more varied our in-game events will become. We certainly appreciate your feedback on the events and will be improving them overtime. Our Mordus' Challenge event dev blog has now been updated with rules that clearly define what actions will count towards meeting the event requirements. Please view them at http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/mordus-legion-announces-mordus-challenge/ for more details. Thank you. Mr Wang, correct if I'm wrong, but your reply had nothing to do with the OP... exploits and such. His reply was in response to this particular exploit that he has disproven. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
1927
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:25:00 -
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While I disagree with boosting.... Theres only so many installations you can destroy/hack and the event requires 100 of both.
This means that in a map like Manus Peak where there are only five/six turrets..... It would require 125,000 matches for every Player JUST TO DESTROY them. Boosting vehicle hacks is about the only way thisevent can be accomplished with Objectives and CRUs being the only other option and theyre in heavily combative areas, obviously.
So, considering that this event is only for a week, that means youre narrowed down to potentially having to do 17,500 matches a day just to hit 100 as a maximum. I dont like those odds. So, yes, while I havent done it - mostly to withhold my reputation for future needs - I can entirely understand players boosting so that they have more time to focus on other areas of the event.
And honestly, 50x suits+weapon+gear is very appealing for those players who arent too great on ISK or just want to suplement their stock. Just a shame they arent giving Gallente Assault gear. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
298
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:30:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:While I disagree with boosting.... Theres only so many installations you can destroy/hack and the event requires 100 of both.
This means that in a map like Manus Peak where there are only five/six turrets..... It would require 125,000 matches for every Player JUST TO DESTROY them. Boosting vehicle hacks is about the only way thisevent can be accomplished with Objectives and CRUs being the only other option and theyre in heavily combative areas, obviously.
So, considering that this event is only for a week, that means youre narrowed down to potentially having to do 17,500 matches a day just to hit 100 as a maximum. I dont like those odds. So, yes, while I havent done it - mostly to withhold my reputation for future needs - I can entirely understand players boosting so that they have more time to focus on other areas of the event.
And honestly, 50x suits+weapon+gear is very appealing for those players who arent too great on ISK or just want to suplement their stock. Just a shame they arent giving Gallente Assault gear.
Hacking one or two installations in a match is not hard..and also destroying ONE installation is not hard either.
We talking about 50 to 100 battles, in a FULL WEEK ....you guys are overreacting. |
Scotty2Hottie6
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 09:58:00 -
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Boosting is all too common place online gaming now. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
1928
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:00:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:While I disagree with boosting.... Theres only so many installations you can destroy/hack and the event requires 100 of both.
This means that in a map like Manus Peak where there are only five/six turrets..... It would require 125,000 matches for every Player JUST TO DESTROY them. Boosting vehicle hacks is about the only way thisevent can be accomplished with Objectives and CRUs being the only other option and theyre in heavily combative areas, obviously.
So, considering that this event is only for a week, that means youre narrowed down to potentially having to do 17,500 matches a day just to hit 100 as a maximum. I dont like those odds. So, yes, while I havent done it - mostly to withhold my reputation for future needs - I can entirely understand players boosting so that they have more time to focus on other areas of the event.
And honestly, 50x suits+weapon+gear is very appealing for those players who arent too great on ISK or just want to suplement their stock. Just a shame they arent giving Gallente Assault gear. Hacking one or two installations in a match is not hard..and also destroying ONE installation is not hard either. We talking about 50 to 100 battles, in a FULL WEEK ....you guys are overreacting.
Remember those words when youre competiting against everyone else to destroy that Installation andall youget is assists because someone was smart enough to wait for that last shot. |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
26
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:04:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Scotty2Hottie6 wrote:Boosting is part of EVERY ONLINE game, deal with it Your attitude is disgusting and contributes nothing to this community. In fact, the majority of this community contribute nothing.
Yeah I agree.
Most of us contribute nothing and should not play this LOL joke of a F2P LOL FPS LOL MMO LOL game.
CCP sucks at making FPS's and this is one of many consequences of them sucking at making FPS's.
Be mad at CCP not at the ones using CCP's fails to their advantage . |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
319
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:31:00 -
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CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Scotty2Hottie6 wrote:Boosting is part of EVERY ONLINE game, deal with it Your attitude is disgusting and contributes nothing to this community. In fact, the majority of this community contribute nothing. Yeah I agree. Most of us contribute nothing and should not play this LOL joke of a F2P LOL FPS LOL MMO LOL game. CCP sucks at making FPS's and this is one of many consequences of them sucking at making FPS's. Be mad at CCP not at the ones using CCP's fails to their advantage . Your are too harsh at assessing CCP's fails. If somebody starts to do new things and "sucks" in the beginning it just means she will improve with time. Not that she should stop doing this "new thing".
DUST game model is somewhat different from the previous old ones. Old ones would sit in developing limbo until somebody decides it is polished enough to show to the people and rip them off they money in the obscene manner. This game of DUST is almost "crowd sourced" and made on the go, getting better and better on monthly basis while people are already using it. There is more pressure on developers in this new way than in the old way. Whines and curses are inevitable
But it is not mandatory to buy AUR... You can actually play for free... At the price |
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Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
34
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:58:00 -
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Maybe the challenge is just a social experiment to see what would happen in matches; it's a fairly good experiment setup, with plenty of observational data to record thanks to the diverse nature of the goals and the high number of objectives that need to be completed for each one.
Maybe they're attempting to stress the mechanics of the game, the servers, the maps and so on in order to discover exploits, emergent game play models, etc.
Also, OP, why do you have such a bad attitude? I don't get it. I can understand that some of the community may bother you but the community that is found on the forums is only a small sample of the community as a whole. If what you find on the forums bothers you so much that you have to aggressively lash out, why would you continue reading it? It's a game enjoyed by many people for many different reasons. Our subjective definition of what Dust is to us is just that; subjective.
Chill, bro. We're all gamers here. Even the trolls. |
Tazmanic
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:00:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:Maybe the challenge is just a social experiment to see what would happen in matches; it's a fairly good experiment setup, with plenty of observational data to record thanks to the diverse nature of the goals and the high number of objectives that need to be completed for each one.
Maybe they're attempting to stress the mechanics of the game, the servers, the maps and so on in order to discover exploits, emergent game play models, etc.
Uhm then it would still be in beta, this is supposed to be a finished product. |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
34
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:02:00 -
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Tazmanic wrote:Zero Notion wrote:Maybe the challenge is just a social experiment to see what would happen in matches; it's a fairly good experiment setup, with plenty of observational data to record thanks to the diverse nature of the goals and the high number of objectives that need to be completed for each one.
Maybe they're attempting to stress the mechanics of the game, the servers, the maps and so on in order to discover exploits, emergent game play models, etc. Uhm then it would still be in beta, this is supposed to be a finished product.
What, you really don't think that developers don't continue testing their game? It's a game that is in a constant state of development due to the very nature of the game type. |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
28
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:02:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:Maybe the challenge is just a social experiment to see what would happen in matches; it's a fairly good experiment setup, with plenty of observational data to record thanks to the diverse nature of the goals and the high number of objectives that need to be completed for each one.
Maybe they're attempting to stress the mechanics of the game, the servers, the maps and so on in order to discover exploits, emergent game play models, etc.
Also, OP, why do you have such a bad attitude? I don't get it. I can understand that some of the community may bother you but the community that is found on the forums is only a small sample of the community as a whole. If what you find on the forums bothers you so much that you have to aggressively lash out, why would you continue reading it? It's a game enjoyed by many people for many different reasons. Our subjective definition of what Dust is to us is just that; subjective.
Chill, bro. We're all gamers here. Even the trolls.
So they are still Beta testing then, right? LOL
F2P = CCP not having to hire a QA team. |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
34
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:07:00 -
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CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Zero Notion wrote:Maybe the challenge is just a social experiment to see what would happen in matches; it's a fairly good experiment setup, with plenty of observational data to record thanks to the diverse nature of the goals and the high number of objectives that need to be completed for each one.
Maybe they're attempting to stress the mechanics of the game, the servers, the maps and so on in order to discover exploits, emergent game play models, etc.
Also, OP, why do you have such a bad attitude? I don't get it. I can understand that some of the community may bother you but the community that is found on the forums is only a small sample of the community as a whole. If what you find on the forums bothers you so much that you have to aggressively lash out, why would you continue reading it? It's a game enjoyed by many people for many different reasons. Our subjective definition of what Dust is to us is just that; subjective.
Chill, bro. We're all gamers here. Even the trolls. So they are still Beta testing then, right? LOL F2P = CCP not having to hire a QA team.
CCP is constantly monitoring the game to ensure that their predicted models are working correctly. This is a game that is constantly evolving and changing due to the number of players. This isn't 'beta' testing at all. It's always a good idea to stress the systems of any game to ensure that it is properly working under new conditions. Developers cannot always predict what sort of exploits, tactics or mechanics a player might utilize to gain an advantage. It's data collection.
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
301
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:08:00 -
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CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Zero Notion wrote:Maybe the challenge is just a social experiment to see what would happen in matches; it's a fairly good experiment setup, with plenty of observational data to record thanks to the diverse nature of the goals and the high number of objectives that need to be completed for each one.
Maybe they're attempting to stress the mechanics of the game, the servers, the maps and so on in order to discover exploits, emergent game play models, etc.
Also, OP, why do you have such a bad attitude? I don't get it. I can understand that some of the community may bother you but the community that is found on the forums is only a small sample of the community as a whole. If what you find on the forums bothers you so much that you have to aggressively lash out, why would you continue reading it? It's a game enjoyed by many people for many different reasons. Our subjective definition of what Dust is to us is just that; subjective.
Chill, bro. We're all gamers here. Even the trolls. So they are still Beta testing then, right? LOL F2P = CCP not having to hire a QA team.
Very much.... we helping CCP to develop the game for free, a new F2P model perhaps ? FTD ( Free To Develop )... opss.. me bad..I can see the Banning Hammer pointing in my direction... Better run... |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
621
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:10:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Scotty2Hottie6 wrote:Boosting is part of EVERY ONLINE game, deal with it Your attitude is disgusting and contributes nothing to this community. In fact, the majority of this community contribute nothing. Yeah I agree. Most of us contribute nothing and should not play this LOL joke of a F2P LOL FPS LOL MMO LOL game. CCP sucks at making FPS's and this is one of many consequences of them sucking at making FPS's. Be mad at CCP not at the ones using CCP's fails to their advantage . Your are too harsh at assessing CCP's fails. If somebody starts to do new things and "sucks" in the beginning it just means she will improve with time. Not that she should stop doing this "new thing". DUST game model is somewhat different from the previous old ones. Old ones would sit in developing limbo until somebody decides it is polished enough to show to the people and rip them off they money in the obscene manner. This game of DUST is almost "crowd sourced" and made on the go, getting better and better on monthly basis while people are already using it. There is more pressure on developers in this new way than in the old way. Whines and curses are inevitable But it is not mandatory to buy AUR... You can actually play for free... At the price +1 for keeping it all in perspective.
It's easy for us burnt out beta testers to look on this adventure with jaded eyes.
The development environment for DUST includes CREST, globally distributed battleservers feeding a single shard which is simultaneously running EVE Online, and all this through PSN. And on a platform new to CCP.
Free high quality voicechat in customizable user created channels - easy to forget those theadnaughts, eh?
Procedurally generated maps based on planetary characteristics, stars and ship brackets in their correct positions in the skybox.
Integrating DUST merc's motivations into EVE is really like making a socio-economic-political RPG FPS lobby shooter - which CCP wants to turn into and open world military/economic simulation.
There are a lot of technologies that CCP are pioneering in DUST and they all talk to each other and CREST.
I'm sure there are big development houses out there who are looking at what CCP is attempting as just flat-out crazy, and not a few of them who would be afraid to take on the challenge that CCP has. |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
35
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:10:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Zero Notion wrote:Maybe the challenge is just a social experiment to see what would happen in matches; it's a fairly good experiment setup, with plenty of observational data to record thanks to the diverse nature of the goals and the high number of objectives that need to be completed for each one.
Maybe they're attempting to stress the mechanics of the game, the servers, the maps and so on in order to discover exploits, emergent game play models, etc.
Also, OP, why do you have such a bad attitude? I don't get it. I can understand that some of the community may bother you but the community that is found on the forums is only a small sample of the community as a whole. If what you find on the forums bothers you so much that you have to aggressively lash out, why would you continue reading it? It's a game enjoyed by many people for many different reasons. Our subjective definition of what Dust is to us is just that; subjective.
Chill, bro. We're all gamers here. Even the trolls. So they are still Beta testing then, right? LOL F2P = CCP not having to hire a QA team. Very much.... we helping CCP to develop the game for free, a new F2P model perhaps ? FTD ( Free To Develop )... opss.. me bad..I can see the Banning Hammer pointing in my direction... Better run...
By nature of playing any MMO-styled game, you are helping developers develop their game in real time. Do you think it is any different than millions of players playing a non-MMO, where new bugs/exploits are found and then patched by the developer? |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
35
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:13:00 -
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Quote:Vrain Matari's post.
I want to give you all my +1's forever. |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
28
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:16:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Scotty2Hottie6 wrote:Boosting is part of EVERY ONLINE game, deal with it Your attitude is disgusting and contributes nothing to this community. In fact, the majority of this community contribute nothing. Yeah I agree. Most of us contribute nothing and should not play this LOL joke of a F2P LOL FPS LOL MMO LOL game. CCP sucks at making FPS's and this is one of many consequences of them sucking at making FPS's. Be mad at CCP not at the ones using CCP's fails to their advantage . Your are too harsh at assessing CCP's fails. If somebody starts to do new things and "sucks" in the beginning it just means she will improve with time. Not that she should stop doing this "new thing". DUST game model is somewhat different from the previous old ones. Old ones would sit in developing limbo until somebody decides it is polished enough to show to the people and rip them off they money in the obscene manner. This game of DUST is almost "crowd sourced" and made on the go, getting better and better on monthly basis while people are already using it. There is more pressure on developers in this new way than in the old way. Whines and curses are inevitable But it is not mandatory to buy AUR... You can actually play for free... At the price +1 for keeping it all in perspective. It's easy for us burnt out beta testers to look on this adventure with jaded eyes. The development environment for DUST includes CREST, globally distributed battleservers feeding a single shard which is simultaneously running EVE Online, and all this through PSN. And on a platform new to CCP. Free high quality voicechat in customizable user created channels - easy to forget those theadnaughts, eh? Procedurally generated maps based on planetary characteristics, stars and ship brackets in their correct positions in the skybox. Integrating DUST merc's motivations into EVE is really like making a socio-economic-political RPG FPS lobby shooter - which CCP wants to turn into and open world military/economic simulation. There are a lot of technologies that CCP are pioneering in DUST and they all talk to each other and CREST. I'm sure there are big development houses out there who are looking at what CCP is attempting as just flat-out crazy, and not a few of them who would be afraid to take on the challenge that CCP has.
Yet they still can not for the life of them figure out core FPS game mechanics like balance, hit detection, aiming, and matchmaking. But hey who cares right, its not like this is a FPS or anything.
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Cinder Integ
Internal Error. League of Infamy
25
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:16:00 -
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Many players have already legitimately finished the challenges. Took myself 14 hours of playtime, hearing anywhere from that to 20 for some. While you may see a few players boosting, there are so many more who are not. |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
37
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:27:00 -
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Quote:Yet they still can not for the life of them figure out core FPS game mechanics like balance, hit detection, aiming, and matchmaking. But hey who cares right, its not like this is a FPS or anything.
Blizzard has millions upon millions of dollars at its disposal. Every patch they release you can see changes made to the classes in order to finely tune the balance as players discover new ways to use the mechanics that cause unexpected results.
I would also hazard to guess that Blizzard also has a larger development team than what Dust has.
I would also hazard to guess that Blizzard would never allow World of Warcraft to be free.
Dust 514 is not going to be a 'static' game where it's shipped out like Call of Duty, Battlefield or other similar FPS games. Dust 514 is an MMOFPS. There are going to be periods of adjustments, errors and balances that are required. The development team is attempting to create something that, while requiring what you perceive to be 'basic' mechanics within an FPS, is also working within an entirely new substrate of game play.
I can understand that it is easy to find yourself growing bitter and jaded at what is perceived to be technical errors; the PS3 is notoriously difficult to work with, I believe you can find many developers attesting to this fact and yet here we have a product that may not be the most polished piece of game design created, it is something entirely new and unique to the world of FPS and MMO that you can enjoy entirely for free. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
530
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:33:00 -
[43] - Quote
who cares?
if this is how they want to roll I don't really mind |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
323
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:38:00 -
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Have found some "raw meat" to chew if you'v not already tasted it: CPM Activity Report #3 - June 29, 2013 (by CSM0 Hans) http://hansshotfirst.blogspot.com/2013/06/cpm-activity-report-3-june-29-2013.html?spref=tw
One quote to give you impression of it's weight:
Quote:(...)The most important thing to share is that as of this meeting, its readily apparent now to the CPM that CCP is doubling down on Dust 514's success, investing more resources into bringing staff on board, focusing their direction, and iterating on the processes that have brought the game this far. Dust is clearly one of the company's major long term investments GÇô and despite the rough launch this year, CCP seems adamant on figuring out what they can do to open the pipeline wider GÇô both in terms of total content output, the timing of the updates, and most importantly GÇô communication.(...)
Bon appetit |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
40
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:42:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Have found some "raw meat" to chew if you'v not already tasted it: CPM Activity Report #3 - June 29, 2013 (by CSM0 Hans) http://hansshotfirst.blogspot.com/2013/06/cpm-activity-report-3-june-29-2013.html?spref=twOne quote to give you impression of it's weight: Quote:(...)The most important thing to share is that as of this meeting, its readily apparent now to the CPM that CCP is doubling down on Dust 514's success, investing more resources into bringing staff on board, focusing their direction, and iterating on the processes that have brought the game this far. Dust is clearly one of the company's major long term investments GÇô and despite the rough launch this year, CCP seems adamant on figuring out what they can do to open the pipeline wider GÇô both in terms of total content output, the timing of the updates, and most importantly GÇô communication.(...) Bon appetit
Excellent. I would really love to see the data they manage to collect from players in both Eve and Dust; the behavioral data must be very interesting to look at, Eve (and soon Dust) are the only games that I know which have such a high level of socio-economic meta-gaming. |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:35:00 -
[46] - Quote
Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Have found some "raw meat" to chew if you'v not already tasted it: CPM Activity Report #3 - June 29, 2013 (by CSM0 Hans) http://hansshotfirst.blogspot.com/2013/06/cpm-activity-report-3-june-29-2013.html?spref=twOne quote to give you impression of it's weight: Quote:(...)The most important thing to share is that as of this meeting, its readily apparent now to the CPM that CCP is doubling down on Dust 514's success, investing more resources into bringing staff on board, focusing their direction, and iterating on the processes that have brought the game this far. Dust is clearly one of the company's major long term investments GÇô and despite the rough launch this year, CCP seems adamant on figuring out what they can do to open the pipeline wider GÇô both in terms of total content output, the timing of the updates, and most importantly GÇô communication.(...) Bon appetit
CPM = Monkeys on a string.
They are there to appease the weak minded individuals and brain wash them into thinking that this game will be great someday, SoonGäó, in the timetable, on the Horizon.
Don't give me LOL tasks like hacking so many things in a given period. Give me real content deserving of my time, like new game modes and maps.
Don't even get me started on the LOL prizes. No free market yet so who cares about the free LOL gear.
Pfff what a waist of time and this Mordu's Challenge is. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
294
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:44:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote: Blizzard has millions upon millions of dollars at its disposal. Every patch they release you can see changes made to the classes in order to finely tune the balance as players discover new ways to use the mechanics that cause unexpected results.
Do not bring up Blizzard and WoW when talking about how balance should be done right. Blizzard doesn't even communicate with their players on the topic. |
steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
874
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:45:00 -
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There are so many ******** comments in thus thread I don't no which one to troll first :-( |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
41
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:52:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:Zero Notion wrote: Blizzard has millions upon millions of dollars at its disposal. Every patch they release you can see changes made to the classes in order to finely tune the balance as players discover new ways to use the mechanics that cause unexpected results.
Do not bring up Blizzard and WoW when talking about how balance should be done right. Blizzard doesn't even communicate with their players on the topic.
That wasn't the point; just that any game, even one as big and 'developed' as WoW, is constantly being re-balanced. Context. |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
41
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:55:00 -
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CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote:Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Have found some "raw meat" to chew if you'v not already tasted it: CPM Activity Report #3 - June 29, 2013 (by CSM0 Hans) http://hansshotfirst.blogspot.com/2013/06/cpm-activity-report-3-june-29-2013.html?spref=twOne quote to give you impression of it's weight: Quote:(...)The most important thing to share is that as of this meeting, its readily apparent now to the CPM that CCP is doubling down on Dust 514's success, investing more resources into bringing staff on board, focusing their direction, and iterating on the processes that have brought the game this far. Dust is clearly one of the company's major long term investments GÇô and despite the rough launch this year, CCP seems adamant on figuring out what they can do to open the pipeline wider GÇô both in terms of total content output, the timing of the updates, and most importantly GÇô communication.(...) Bon appetit CPM = Monkeys on a string. They are there to appease the weak minded individuals and brain wash them into thinking that this game will be great someday, SoonGäó, in the timetable, on the Horizon. Don't give me LOL tasks like hacking so many things in a given period. Give me real content deserving of my time, like new game modes and maps. Don't even get me started on the LOL prizes. No free market yet so who cares about the free LOL gear. Pfff what a waist of time and this Mordu's Challenge is.
Sounds like you should play a different game.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
258
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:11:00 -
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...[whistles] That's a fine Waist of time you got there Ma'am! |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3265
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:17:00 -
[52] - Quote
Gigatron Prime wrote:Scotty2Hottie6 wrote:Boosting is part of EVERY ONLINE game, deal with it Your attitude is disgusting and contributes nothing to this community. In fact, the majority of this community contribute nothing.
If you think that attitude is disgusting, wait until the politics and ponzi schemes come to DUST. Enjoy. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:27:00 -
[53] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Scotty2Hottie6 wrote:Boosting is part of EVERY ONLINE game, deal with it Your attitude is disgusting and contributes nothing to this community. In fact, the majority of this community contribute nothing. If you think that attitude is disgusting, wait until the politics and ponzi schemes come to DUST. Enjoy. Better yet, step outside your door. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3266
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:00:00 -
[54] - Quote
Zero Notion wrote:Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Have found some "raw meat" to chew if you'v not already tasted it: CPM Activity Report #3 - June 29, 2013 (by CSM0 Hans) http://hansshotfirst.blogspot.com/2013/06/cpm-activity-report-3-june-29-2013.html?spref=twOne quote to give you impression of it's weight: Quote:(...)The most important thing to share is that as of this meeting, its readily apparent now to the CPM that CCP is doubling down on Dust 514's success, investing more resources into bringing staff on board, focusing their direction, and iterating on the processes that have brought the game this far. Dust is clearly one of the company's major long term investments GÇô and despite the rough launch this year, CCP seems adamant on figuring out what they can do to open the pipeline wider GÇô both in terms of total content output, the timing of the updates, and most importantly GÇô communication.(...) Bon appetit Excellent. I would really love to see the data they manage to collect from players in both Eve and Dust; the behavioral data must be very interesting to look at, Eve (and soon Dust) are the only games that I know which have such a high level of socio-economic meta-gaming.
Hell, Eve Online has been used several times in a few college classes as part of a project on economics and social behaviors. |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
52
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:58:00 -
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Well, poop.
Do my vehicle hacks before the hacking rule change count towards the 100 successful hacks? |
whitewolf ghost
Stand Alone Clones
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:05:00 -
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Well someone is seriously butt hurt by getting killed and losing their game. Get over it prime my guys were just testing something out to see if it worked. You can't blame them for that .mi, sure you have pulled the same stuff before at some point. Everyone has and if you claim you haven't your full of it. But hey thanks for the publicity prime |
Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
241
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
Gigatron Prime wrote:Scotty2Hottie6 wrote:Boosting is part of EVERY ONLINE game, deal with it Your attitude is disgusting and contributes nothing to this community. In fact, the majority of this community contribute nothing.
And you think posting on the forums is considered "contributing?"
That's adorable.
Keep on blameing the community for this games faults. It will fix everything. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2421
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:30:00 -
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Vehicle hacks don't count for the hacking requirement, so they're wasting their time there.
There's unfortunately not much we can do if people want to farm kill each other like that. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
711
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:34:00 -
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But for clarification, neutral turrets being destroyed do count if we see that "+100" pop up, right? |
whitewolf ghost
Stand Alone Clones
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:09:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Vehicle hacks don't count for the hacking requirement, so they're wasting their time there.
There's unfortunately not much we can do if people want to farm kill each other like that.
To be honest my corp has a rule we don't kill other corp members therefore his argument is invalid. Killing other corp members is ground for termination. Your wonderful informant as he seems to cry about other things in different forums has no bearing as he has totally misconstrued his facts. Thank you for the input on the hacks however it seems the lower end of the food chain trolls the forums to whine. Not everyone mind you but a few . Prime we will see you on the battlefield with your corp as we have smashed your corp and your sister corp before and we will continue to. |
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
196
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:17:00 -
[61] - Quote
big surprise. |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
130
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:06:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Vehicle hacks don't count for the hacking requirement, so they're wasting their time there.
There's unfortunately not much we can do if people want to farm kill each other like that.
Umm... 100x Objective Hacks GÇô (includes vehicles, CRU, turrets, supply depots and the skirmish objectives.
What the heck do you mean? It's very explicit that it does. |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
130
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:11:00 -
[63] - Quote
You can't start the event and then change the rules, CCP. |
Tsukuyomi Amaterasu
Stand Alone Clones
0
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:59:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Vehicle hacks don't count for the hacking requirement, so they're wasting their time there.
There's unfortunately not much we can do if people want to farm kill each other like that. Umm... 100x Objective Hacks GÇô (includes vehicles, CRU, turrets, supply depots and the skirmish objectives. What the heck do you mean? It's very explicit that it does.
That's what we were testing, one rule was as stated above (they count), the other rule was they did not. As for us "killing each other", as Wolf has already stated we don't kill corpies. . . what would be the point when we can just kill others? 100 kills is nothing, easily done in less than 20 matches for most players. |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
461
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Posted - 2013.07.13 07:16:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:You can't start the event and then change the rules, CCP. Yes they can - and when it is to stop boosting SOBs, they absolutely should. |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
58
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Posted - 2013.07.13 14:53:00 -
[66] - Quote
Ryder Azorria wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:You can't start the event and then change the rules, CCP. Yes they can - and when it is to stop boosting SOBs, they absolutely should.
`sigh I hate boosters sooo much. Bunch of lazy B*****s. |
Bullets2yaface
Red Star. EoN.
28
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:00:00 -
[67] - Quote
someone said OMS doesn't count but its not in the rules just trying to confirm |
Upper Deckin
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:08:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, We understand that there are limitations in-game currently that needs to be improved and we are taking steps to address them. With Uprising 1.2 we've introduced some of the changes to improve gameplay and we will continue to do so with subsequent updates in shorter cycles. In the mean time, we're hosting in-game events to spice things up for our players and keeping people engaged in DUST. As more improvements are introduced into the game, the better and more varied our in-game events will become. We certainly appreciate your feedback on the events and will be improving them overtime. Our Mordus' Challenge event dev blog has now been updated with rules that clearly define what actions will count towards meeting the event requirements. Please view them at http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/mordus-legion-announces-mordus-challenge/ for more details. Thank you.
Maybe you could have updated the front announcements page to direct people to this new info .
I have been going off the info from the blog on the 2nd http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapons-free-with-dust-514-events-in-july-and-august/ which includes vehicles hacks .... 100x Objective Hacks GÇô (includes vehicles, CRU, turrets, supply depots and the skirmish objectives. Hack assists do not count
Now I guess because some people will exploit and doing nothing but vehicle hack I have now lost count because you guys hold a event based on stats you can't even track in game > then change the rules . I'm sorry I didn't think I'd have to check the dev blog as well as the website to decipher the newest relevant info.
P.s Having hacks and installation destruction as 2 of the objectives and not including vehicles seems like poor planning on your guys parts . Do you play this game ? People are blowing up neutral points so that's one less thing for everyone to hack .
So if you could let me know how many of my hacks have been vehicle and get back to me that would be great . |
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