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HowDidThatTaste
Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:39:00 -
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HEAVY
The Heavy dropsuit is designed to withstand concentrated small arms fire and protect the wearer from low-grade explosives. Its power-assisted exoskeleton lets the wearer use the heaviest weapons available.
What heavy dropsuits lack in mobility they make up for with incomparable defenses. Mercenaries wearing such armor have been known to survive going toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles.
And this is the weapon you wield?
A multi-barrel, rotary drive machine gun, the HMG is a singularly devastating anti-infantry weapon. Eschewing the advantages of a lighter frame in favour of stopping power, the exponentially increased heat and vibration produced by this Boundless Creation developed weapon makes it almost unbearable to fire. Yet, despite this fact, its above average hit ratio and extreme rate of fire has earned it the nickname "Death's Engine."
Unlike earlier models, the weapon requires no spool up time; rounds are expelled the instant the trigger is pressed. This comes at the cost of initially reduced accuracy as the counter-rotating drives slowly align. Once fully aligned, however, the HMG produces a pin-point stream of gunfire with unmatched killing potential. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
378
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:39:00 -
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it sounds scarier on paper. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
725
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:42:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:it sounds scarier on paper.
I AM scary!!! grrrr... grr... ah never mind
... i used to be scary... really... people used to run when they saw a heavy... |
HowDidThatTaste
Internal Error. League of Infamy
3287
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:43:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:it sounds scarier on paper.
Yep |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1055
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:44:00 -
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I would love to see more forge toting heavies around and actually maybe some heavies that will shoot an lav with their machine gun I see way to many standing on a safe spot and just looking at the lav when the hmgs rounds will damage the ******* thing since they dont seem to resist hmg fire like other weapons |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
394
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:46:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote: Mercenaries wearing such armor have been known to be easy road kill going toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles. Fixed. |
HowDidThatTaste
Internal Error. League of Infamy
3290
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:48:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote: Mercenaries wearing such armor have been known to be easy road kill going toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles. Fixed.
Such a sad truth. Toe to toe with an LAV equals hood ornament |
Kiro Justice
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
357
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:49:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:it sounds scarier on paper. I AM scary!!! grrrr... grr... ah never mind ... i used to be scary... really... people used to run when they saw a heavy...
The only things that can tear apart my proto-suit. Besides being vastly outnumbered... |
xSir Campsalotx
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
17
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:53:00 -
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Hahaha I wish, this is a glorified BBs gun shooting twice as many BBs as the sub machinegun shoots bullets. You should read the cal logi description pretty funny look it up next time you play. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
289
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:58:00 -
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Started rolling a Heavy HMG on my alt. So much fun. It took a while to not try to play it like a shotgunner though.
I will burn through a clip to collect my 40 WP on a LAV - if my grenades are empty.
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MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
107
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:04:00 -
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It is deaths engine |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
268
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:11:00 -
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HEAVY is exactly like a BigMac on a picture vs what you really get in the box.
All you get is the extra Fat you can expect in the picture.
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oso tiburon
The Generals EoN.
144
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:13:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:it sounds scarier on paper. Yep yep ... still once in a while get a few guys that turn and run ... they die ... usualy tired but meh not the same |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
451
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:13:00 -
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In Chromosome I had a Type-II Heavy with complex shield extenders and an HMG or Laser Rifle. Man, I tore things up with that. They need to make the Caldari Heavy, then I'd consider playing them again. |
omega 015
Reaper Galactic
67
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:16:00 -
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Like this?
http://youtu.be/jHgZh4GV9G0 |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
846
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:21:00 -
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My simple balancing ideas:
Heavy - huuugge amount of HP, slow as crap, no equipment slots. To kill, draw it into open or flank and surround it.
Logi - lower than average SP, very few module slots, one weapon slot, tons of equipment slots
Scout - super duper fast, extremely low SP, no grenades, balanced mix of equipment and module slots.
Assault - not bad at anything but not superb either. Medium-low amount of all types of slots
AKA, bring the gameplay back to the original beta build where everything was buggy as crap and there was a lot of unbalance but the suits themselves were fun! |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
447
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:29:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:HEAVY
The Heavy dropsuit is designed to withstand concentrated small arms fire and protect the wearer from low-grade explosives. Its power-assisted exoskeleton lets the wearer use the heaviest weapons available.
What heavy dropsuits lack in mobility they make up for with incomparable defenses. Mercenaries wearing such armor have been known to survive going toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles.
And this is the weapon you wield?
A multi-barrel, rotary drive machine gun, the HMG is a singularly devastating anti-infantry weapon. Eschewing the advantages of a lighter frame in favour of stopping power, the exponentially increased heat and vibration produced by this Boundless Creation developed weapon makes it almost unbearable to fire. Yet, despite this fact, its above average hit ratio and extreme rate of fire has earned it the nickname "Death's Engine."
Unlike earlier models, the weapon requires no spool up time; rounds are expelled the instant the trigger is pressed. This comes at the cost of initially reduced accuracy as the counter-rotating drives slowly align. Once fully aligned, however, the HMG produces a pin-point stream of gunfire with unmatched killing potential.
Quote:What the heavy dropsuits lack in mobility
Enough said
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Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
89
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:36:00 -
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This is how a HMG should work against LAVs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVjn7aj9pxI |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
326
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Posted - 2013.07.10 15:13:00 -
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Ah, the good ole Chromosome days.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUTAlRoXbLA&list=PLDQssa97naQTcXfv6UqT3WAJgax_A5J1u |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
144
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Posted - 2013.07.10 15:21:00 -
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"Deaths Engine"
Two bullets from my TY-5 Assault Scrambler Pistol to any heavys face begs to differ. Lol |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Blueberry Gunners
2192
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:30:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote: initially reduced accuracy as the counter-rotating drives slowly align. Once fully aligned, however, the HMG produces a pin-point stream of gunfire with unmatched killing potential.
THAT'S IT! THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you look at the stats of the HMG, it has the highest accuracy rating BY FAR of every weapon, and the longer you fire it, the smaller the reticule (or whatever it's called) gets!
That means it's like the laser rifle, only it gets more accurate instead of more powerful! |
Scheneighnay McBob
Blueberry Gunners
2192
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:01:00 -
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I've confirmed it- the longer the HMG fires, the more accurate it gets. However, the range still sucks no matter how long you fire, and there's some VERY noticeable recoil after you fire for that long, which is unrealistic because of how heavy the HMG is. |
Bendtner92
Internal Error. League of Infamy
709
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:05:00 -
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Lol at Scheneighnay for not realising that's how the HMG worked until now |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3027
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:15:00 -
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They should make it actually pinpoint. I would be fine with heavy fire being as accurate as a laser if they held down R1 for 3 seconds or so. |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
91
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Posted - 2013.07.10 18:20:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:HEAVY
The Heavy dropsuit is designed to withstand concentrated small arms fire and protect the wearer from low-grade explosives. Its power-assisted exoskeleton lets the wearer use the heaviest weapons available.
What heavy dropsuits lack in mobility they make up for with incomparable defenses. Mercenaries wearing such armor have been known to survive going toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles.
And this is the weapon you wield?
A multi-barrel, rotary drive machine gun, the HMG is a singularly devastating anti-infantry weapon. Eschewing the advantages of a lighter frame in favour of stopping power, the exponentially increased heat and vibration produced by this Boundless Creation developed weapon makes it almost unbearable to fire. Yet, despite this fact, its above average hit ratio and extreme rate of fire has earned it the nickname "Death's Engine."
Unlike earlier models, the weapon requires no spool up time; rounds are expelled the instant the trigger is pressed. This comes at the cost of initially reduced accuracy as the counter-rotating drives slowly align. Once fully aligned, however, the HMG produces a pin-point stream of gunfire with unmatched killing potential. 3 words.......... light attack vehicle |
Scheneighnay McBob
Blueberry Gunners
2192
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Posted - 2013.07.10 18:34:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:They should make it actually pinpoint. I would be fine with heavy fire being as accurate as a laser if they held down R1 for 3 seconds or so. I would just be happy with the accuracy not resetting when you release the trigger. |
Asher Night
187. League of Infamy
389
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Posted - 2013.07.10 22:37:00 -
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martinofski wrote:HEAVY is exactly like a BigMac on a picture vs what you really get in the box.
All you get is the extra Fat you can expect in the picture.
Repeatedly since I have played this game I have seen people get kdrs of 20/30 to 1 whioe being a heavy and just using the HMG.
Heavies aren't Assaults. Heavies aren't shotgun scouts. Stop playing as the aggressor and running out everywhere you idiots. Stay in close quarters in spots where enemies can't strafe well. The suit is called "sentinel" for a reason. Its perfect for guarding general areas. There is no class better for camping an objective. |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
69
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:16:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote: Mercenaries wearing such armor have been known to be easy road kill going toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles. Fixed. Such a sad truth. Toe to toe with an LAV equals hood ornament It's not that bad as with damage mods against free LAVs :D Love blowing those things up with HMGS
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
3956
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:22:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:martinofski wrote:HEAVY is exactly like a BigMac on a picture vs what you really get in the box.
All you get is the extra Fat you can expect in the picture.
Repeatedly since I have played this game I have seen people get kdrs of 20/30 to 1 whioe being a heavy and just using the HMG. Heavies aren't Assaults. Heavies aren't shotgun scouts. Stop playing as the aggressor and running out everywhere you idiots. Stay in close quarters in spots where enemies can't strafe well. The suit is called "sentinel" for a reason. Its perfect for guarding general areas. There is no class better for camping an objective.
I use the Basic suit and I bring tears to the Reddots eyes |
Mary Sedillo
BetaMax. CRONOS.
131
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:34:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:it sounds scarier on paper. I AM scary!!! grrrr... grr... ah never mind ... i used to be scary... really... people used to run when they saw a heavy...
I have a buddy named NIXNOVA> Dude rocks people with his Heavy + HMG.
Just saying If you suck, doesn't meant the role sucks. ;) |
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ChromeBreaker
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
752
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:35:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:it sounds scarier on paper. I AM scary!!! grrrr... grr... ah never mind ... i used to be scary... really... people used to run when they saw a heavy... I have a buddy named NIXNOVA> Dude rocks people with his Heavy + HMG. Just saying If you suck, doesn't meant the role sucks. ;)
young people today...
Im not saying heavies arenGÇÖt good... Im saying they arenGÇÖt feared!! There was a time in builds gone past where the sound of a hmg would actually physically turn people around.
Now... heavies are past their prime |
Captain Africa Clone1
GRIM MARCH
100
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:29:00 -
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Halador Osiris wrote:In Chromosome I had a Type-II Heavy with complex shield extenders and an HMG or Laser Rifle. Man, I tore things up with that. They need to make the Caldari Heavy, then I'd consider playing them again.
Now ur talking m8 ...for me that fit was the Holy Grale. Lets hope ! |
ChromeBreaker
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
752
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:31:00 -
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Captain Africa Clone1 wrote:Halador Osiris wrote:In Chromosome I had a Type-II Heavy with complex shield extenders and an HMG or Laser Rifle. Man, I tore things up with that. They need to make the Caldari Heavy, then I'd consider playing them again. Now ur talking m8 ...for me that fit was the Holy Grail. Lets hope !
Heres to new suits and new weapons breathing some energy into heavies |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:38:00 -
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What the hell you guys are talking about ? I'm kitten terrifying with my Adv Heavy suit... and that is only the GEK-38.. you wait to i get the SP for the HMG...
Nothing is more terrifying, than going to an objective and seeing a Heavy Camping in there...is like.. ; Crap !! i thought i will hack that terminal easily ...
I defended a full area for about 10 minutes against a squad of 6 the other day... they couldn't get anywhere near me.. |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Top Men.
166
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:39:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:it sounds scarier on paper.
Gives no meaning to the term "Paper Tiger". Lol |
ChromeBreaker
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
752
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:44:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:What the hell you guys are talking about ? I'm kitten terrifying with my Adv Heavy suit... and that is only the GEK-38.. you wait to i get the SP for the HMG... Nothing is more terrifying, than going to an objective and seeing a Heavy Camping in there...is like.. ; Crap !! i thought i will hack that terminal easily ... I defended a full area for about 10 minutes against a squad of 6 the other day... they couldn't get anywhere near me..
Its not the same people still run at you, it might not be a good idea but they still try for the objective. The time im talking about was when if you saw a heavy come around a corner, your instant reaction was to leg it into cover... (i mean they still die now obviously but the fears gone) |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:49:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:What the hell you guys are talking about ? I'm kitten terrifying with my Adv Heavy suit... and that is only the GEK-38.. you wait to i get the SP for the HMG... Nothing is more terrifying, than going to an objective and seeing a Heavy Camping in there...is like.. ; Crap !! i thought i will hack that terminal easily ... I defended a full area for about 10 minutes against a squad of 6 the other day... they couldn't get anywhere near me.. Its not the same people still run at you, it might not be a good idea but they still try for the objective. The time im talking about was when if you saw a heavy come around a corner, your instant reaction was to leg it into cover... (i mean they still die now obviously but the fears gone)
So ... ? you are a Heavy... not immortal.. I do understand that, that is why i always look for cover, or try to find a place where i can barricade myself. |
ChromeBreaker
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
752
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:55:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:What the hell you guys are talking about ? I'm kitten terrifying with my Adv Heavy suit... and that is only the GEK-38.. you wait to i get the SP for the HMG... Nothing is more terrifying, than going to an objective and seeing a Heavy Camping in there...is like.. ; Crap !! i thought i will hack that terminal easily ... I defended a full area for about 10 minutes against a squad of 6 the other day... they couldn't get anywhere near me.. Its not the same people still run at you, it might not be a good idea but they still try for the objective. The time im talking about was when if you saw a heavy come around a corner, your instant reaction was to leg it into cover... (i mean they still die now obviously but the fears gone) So ... ? you are a Heavy... not immortal.. I do understand that, that is why i always look for cover, or try to find a place where i can barricade myself.
Oh never indestructible (about the same hp as now)... but if you stayed in my cross hairs you were dead. Im just reminiscing of times when heavies commanded a lot more respect...
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toten thing
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:42:00 -
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HMG does suck and just cuz you can name a couple of people who use it and rock doesnGÇÖt make it any better. This is called a fallacy. You donGÇÖt make the norm the most extreme measure of success. I play a heavy I die less then I kill, but that only do to the fact I have played a heavy enough to have over 1300 total hp and skilled the HMG to the highest it can be. If it was for these facts I would die much more to the militia AR. Also I canGÇÖt move fast enough to avoid LAVs so I die to those much more then I probably should. Heavies cost a lot of SP to make any good and cost a lot of ISK to run with any survivability. Tracking speed being nerfed also makes it so even if I am able to see the scout he can run around me twice before I can kill him. |
HowDidThatTaste
Internal Error. League of Infamy
3386
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:22:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:"Deaths Engine"
Two bullets from my TY-5 Assault Scrambler Pistol to any heavys face begs to differ. Lol
Yes that is the sad truth these days. The time I eat through 5-600 shields they put me down. |
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
260
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:47:00 -
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I remember when my assault HMG, in Chromosome, was actually an effective tool to provide cover fire for my squad, help push forward assaults, and be effective area denial.
Now, even my alt Mini-Light frame is taking out heavies with a scrambler rifle. And I have almost zero anxiety of them killing me first at range even if they start firing before I do.
I almost shed a tear as I stand in their hail of fire, most of which zips around me, as I place pinpoint accurate shots about their head and shoulders. |
xSir Campsalotx
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
20
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Posted - 2013.07.15 01:26:00 -
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Yeah hell i can go 20-0 with a laser rifle, doesn't mean it's a good gun just means lots of passive agressive play style and being extra careful not to die, run 2 complex Dmg mods with prof 3 and its moderately semi ok as long as its mostly adv suits. Have a car at the ready and book it as soon as someone gets close. |
HowDidThatTaste
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
3450
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:25:00 -
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Still no new heavy weapons? |
Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
754
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:48:00 -
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I enjoy my heavy but its speed and large hitbox make it pretty easy to kill, I reckon it could use some resists or moar HP. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
4249
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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:13:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Still no new heavy weapons?
No love for the heavy |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
401
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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:17:00 -
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Were the HMGs tweaked? I was playing with my heavy alt the other day and it was like texas chainsaw massacre. I was slaughtering people left and right. Before the update and the work on matchmaking, my heavy wasn't making that kind of progress. Now Ty is back to his old self.
It would be nice if people recognized the importance of a heavy. I don't see too many teams use the heavy to their advantage and often leave the poor guy to fend off the reds on his own. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
513
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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:24:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:... been known to survive going toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles.
Lots of heavies took this at face value.
Oops. |
calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
121
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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:33:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:martinofski wrote:HEAVY is exactly like a BigMac on a picture vs what you really get in the box.
All you get is the extra Fat you can expect in the picture.
Repeatedly since I have played this game I have seen people get kdrs of 20/30 to 1 whioe being a heavy and just using the HMG. Heavies aren't Assaults. Heavies aren't shotgun scouts. Stop playing as the aggressor and running out everywhere you idiots. Stay in close quarters in spots where enemies can't strafe well. The suit is called "sentinel" for a reason. Its perfect for guarding general areas. There is no class better for camping an objective.
Sure why not you go have fun and I will stay here and F off, I only get points two ways, kills and kill assist. You have at least 5 different ways to score. Nanohive, Nanite Injector, Kill, Kill assist, repping someone. Come on give us some freakin slack. |
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