Because ammo capacity will never cut spam as long as supply depots and nanohives are around.

So basically you want the flaylock to be another HAV, Dropship, and Laser?

Not sure what you mean. I'm saying it needs to be a pistol first and foremost, a precision weapon with the highest damage in its category, at the expense of requiring a little more finesse to use, and a lower ammo count than the other pistols.

I'm saying it should be a unique weapon, and not a smaller mass driver.

So basically you want the flaylock to be another HAV, Dropship, and Laser?

Its gonna get nerfed. You cant have a side arm dominating a battle field every game forever. Its everyones fault for wreaking as much havok as they can with it. That lesson never sank in when they lost their TAC ARs and proto tanks. People will take the path of least resistance and pay for it later. Its gonna be funny when they are here crying.

They had a few weeks of fun and ruined a great weapon by getting it classified as OP.

Cut the splash and all will be good

Ehrmergerd anerther flaylerk threrd.

In all seriousness though. There's a lot of complaining about this thing, and I can 'kinda' see why, but at the same time, I've personally had few problems with it apart from the occasional very very skilled user.

I think one of the big fundamental problems with this thing is it's splash damage, and that it's basically as effective as a mass driver in that respect. As such, we see a huge disparity between it and the other sidearms.

No other pistols have area damage, nor do I believe they should. They SHOULD, however, have unique features that make them powerful and viable backup weapons, or hell even primary for those who choose to use them that way.

Scrambler has its massive headshot bonus, caldari rail pistol will likelty have a combination of good damage and accuracy at long ranges, gallente pistol...who knows.

Why not make the flaylock pistol, a pistol, instead of a launcher.

Add 1-2 rounds to the base magazine size, reduce or even eliminate splash damage radius, and make the projectile fly further, faster, and with a flat trajectory. You'll have a rocket-pistol that is not only more useful against light vehicles, but a weapon that requires direct hits rather than blind shooting at someone's feet to deal damage. Once you land a direct hit, though, the damage should be massive, in true minmatar fashion.

Just my vision for an improved flaylock. I mean, it's supposed to be a explosive, rocket-assisted projectile. Seems silly it should move so slowly and arc so soon along its flight path. At the same time, ridiculous for such a small explosive to deal massive splash damage to armored and shielded combat suits.

So basically you want the flaylock to be another HAV, Dropship, and Laser?

No one complains about the Corelock at range, unless they have high ground. I'm primarily ok with that, because I feel the Flaylock in general needs to have low splash damage, high direct damage. Increase their clip size to 5, lower their RoF just a little bit. Give them a little more ammunition overall, and give them a little PG to match other sidearms. There can be a variant with wide blast radius, medium blast damage low direct damage.

Obviously it would be very difficult while we're all on hoverboards, but welcome to the party, sorry you can't lean on your crutch. If you want to use a sidearm to kill with splash damage, you should have to work for it. Give them a little more range while you're at it, reward strong aim. Increase projectile speed a bit.

Whatever happens to it, something needs to happen to it.

See, I don't agree with that either though, because that would just be a nerf.

A faster-moving projectile with a flat trajectory that out-ranges the scrambler pistol makes complete sense even in lore-terms. With Minmatar favoring shields, the amarr scrambler is a perfect counter to them, doing extra shield damage as well as having that massive headshot bonus for when their armored juggernauts close in on their prey.

The minmatar counter with a weapon that gives them a secondary weapon for desperate situations to dispose of the slow moving amarrians with armor-piercing explosive rounds that hit hard and at skirmishing ranges.

And DUST Fiend, I'm really glad iIm not the only one to have thought of this.

Agreed cut the splash, blowing 3 people up in one with a pistol better than with an md seems pretty insane to me

Delta: It's already an anti-armour sidearm, since explosive damage is more effective against armour than shields. And it DOES essentially fire HEAT rounds, or at least, rocket-assisted slugs filled with high explosive (Just 'HE' rounds, really...). In my mind, though, the 1-inch projectiles are still too small to have effective splash damage, but more than enough to be effective shaped-charges. Lets not forget that we're all armored and shielded. A modern day five-seven would be pretty useless against the technology in the EVE universe.

And DUST Fiend, I'm really glad iIm not the only one to have thought of this.

I dont get why we are disagreeing since we both seem to be saying the splash is to much

Change the splash radius of all flaylocks to 1.5m
Make flaylocks use more pg
?Reduce the range?
Ive used the basic, advanced,and proto flaylock and the only one thats OP is the proto, the other ones are fine.