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Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1835	Posted - 2013.07.07 04:27:00 - [1] - Quote Sometimes I wonder if people know there is a thing called armor tanking. I was just in a 2v1 fight, I dropped both of their shields (Caldari) and they went to cover. They threw a flux grenade at me, and tried to rush in with their shields still only 1/4th of the way until fully charged. I murdered both of them. This kind of stuff happens way too frequently. And it's not like they didn't know what I was, we were in spitting distance, we could clearly see our suit types. What, are they expecting me to shield tank in a Gallente suit? Ridicu... Wait... Even that's more effective than armor tanking. Never mind.
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 206	Posted - 2013.07.07 04:28:00 - [2] - Quote What was their suit level?
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1835	Posted - 2013.07.07 04:30:00 - [3] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: What was their suit level? One was prototype, another was advanced.
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 1588	Posted - 2013.07.07 04:37:00 - [4] - Quote Hybrids get the best mileage.
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 206	Posted - 2013.07.07 04:39:00 - [5] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: What was their suit level? One was prototype, another was advanced. Well, they're a pair of idiots
Skipper Jones ZionTCD 252	Posted - 2013.07.07 04:42:00 - [6] - Quote Happens to me all the time.... I just chew through their 'precious' combat logi with my AScR
Bettie Boop 2100190003 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 22	Posted - 2013.07.07 06:03:00 - [7] - Quote Adv Flux + Proto MD = dead squad most of the time. I run Gallente logi and am currently sitting at 180(ish) shields and 875 armor. I laugh at Flux grenades, hell halv the time Ill charge into a group cooking mine and just let it go off in my hands then mow em down with my MD. So yes, I armor tank and its funny to see how confused people are when my shields drop and I don't go for cover.
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 288	Posted - 2013.07.07 06:21:00 - [8] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Sometimes I wonder if people know there is a thing called armor tanking. I was just in a 2v1 fight, I dropped both of their shields (Caldari) and they went to cover. They threw a flux grenade at me, and tried to rush in with their shields still only 1/4th of the way until fully charged. I murdered both of them. This kind of stuff happens way too frequently. And it's not like they didn't know what I was, we were in spitting distance, we could clearly see our suit types. What, are they expecting me to shield tank in a Gallente suit? Ridicu... Wait... Even that's more effective than armor tanking. Never mind. Newbs armor tank. Newbs shield tank. Dual or speed tank ftw.
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 288	Posted - 2013.07.07 06:23:00 - [9] - Quote Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote: I laugh at Flux grenades, hell halv the time Ill charge into a group cooking mine and just let it go off in my hands ... "Jiihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!!!!!"
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1837	Posted - 2013.07.07 06:28:00 - [10] - Quote Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote: Adv Flux + Proto MD = dead squad most of the time. I run Gallente logi and am currently sitting at 180(ish) shields and 875 armor. I laugh at Flux grenades, hell halv the time Ill charge into a group cooking mine and just let it go off in my hands then mow em down with my MD. So yes, I armor tank and its funny to see how confused people are when my shields drop and I don't go for cover. How do you regenerate? Having 875 armor means you use all of your low slots for armor. Also, what's your speed?

Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 796	Posted - 2013.07.07 06:50:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote: Adv Flux + Proto MD = dead squad most of the time. I run Gallente logi and am currently sitting at 180(ish) shields and 875 armor. I laugh at Flux grenades, hell halv the time Ill charge into a group cooking mine and just let it go off in my hands then mow em down with my MD. So yes, I armor tank and its funny to see how confused people are when my shields drop and I don't go for cover. How do you regenerate? Having 875 armor means you use all of your low slots for armor. Also, what's your speed? Hes a logi, they all armor repair without needing repair modules
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 206	Posted - 2013.07.07 06:52:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote: Adv Flux + Proto MD = dead squad most of the time. I run Gallente logi and am currently sitting at 180(ish) shields and 875 armor. I laugh at Flux grenades, hell halv the time Ill charge into a group cooking mine and just let it go off in my hands then mow em down with my MD. So yes, I armor tank and its funny to see how confused people are when my shields drop and I don't go for cover. How do you regenerate? Having 875 armor means you use all of your low slots for armor. Also, what's your speed? Assuming that he has LvL 5 Logi, he has an in-built armor repairer of 5HP/-s
Vickers S Grunt Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 123	Posted - 2013.07.07 07:08:00 - [13] - Quote Or uses wiakomi hives or has a logi buddy . Armor is underrated My logi bro can kick out nearly 250 reps a sec with 2 hives and a core rep tool . No one is coming threw that door or round that corner while we have that setup going !
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1838	Posted - 2013.07.07 07:11:00 - [14] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote: Adv Flux + Proto MD = dead squad most of the time. I run Gallente logi and am currently sitting at 180(ish) shields and 875 armor. I laugh at Flux grenades, hell halv the time Ill charge into a group cooking mine and just let it go off in my hands then mow em down with my MD. So yes, I armor tank and its funny to see how confused people are when my shields drop and I don't go for cover. How do you regenerate? Having 875 armor means you use all of your low slots for armor. Also, what's your speed? Hes a logi, they all armor repair without needing repair modules ah right, forgot about that. ... Gal Assaults really need that too.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1838	Posted - 2013.07.07 07:13:00 - [15] - Quote Vickers S Grunt wrote: Or uses wiakomi hives or has a logi buddy . Armor is underrated My logi bro can kick out nearly 250 reps a sec with 2 hives and a core rep tool . No one is coming threw that door or round that corner while we have that setup going ! 2 hives are destructible. A rep requires you to have one less gun firing, a standard AR with no skills or damage mods does 430 DPS. My setup gives me enough DPS to kill you beforea rep cycle even happens. Mind you, armor is extremely vulnerable to grenades, and your two nanohives? Destroyed. So all I need to do is throw a little grenade and laugh. Lastly, to get that you need to be a logi. Assault as usual is inferior to a logi >_>
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1839	Posted - 2013.07.07 07:22:00 - [16] - Quote Vickers S Grunt wrote: Or uses wiakomi hives or has a logi buddy . Armor is underrated My logi bro can kick out nearly 250 reps a sec with 2 hives and a core rep tool . No one is coming threw that door or round that corner while we have that setup going ! Also, that's as edge case as edge case can get.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 158	Posted - 2013.07.07 07:25:00 - [17] - Quote I run a Commando suit with Laser Rifle and Assault Scrambler Rifle, but before 1.2 I ran Assault with semi-auto Scrambler Rifle and Assault Scrambler Pistol. Needless to say I'm always prepared to engage shield users. And 99% of the time I wipe their shields and they drop like flies. But that other 1% of the time . . . when I empty their shields and they continue to walk towards me like a wall . . . "WHAT IS THIS HERESY!?!?!"
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1840	Posted - 2013.07.07 07:31:00 - [18] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I run a Commando suit with Laser Rifle and Assault Scrambler Rifle, but before 1.2 I ran Assault with semi-auto Scrambler Rifle and Assault Scrambler Pistol. Needless to say I'm always prepared to engage shield users. And 99% of the time I wipe their shields and they drop like flies. But that other 1% of the time . . . when I empty their shields and they continue to walk towards me like a wall . . . "WHAT IS THIS HERESY!?!?!" lol That's a dual tanker! Run to the hills!
Vickers S Grunt Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 123	Posted - 2013.07.07 07:39:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Vickers S Grunt wrote: Or uses wiakomi hives or has a logi buddy . Armor is underrated My logi bro can kick out nearly 250 reps a sec with 2 hives and a core rep tool . No one is coming threw that door or round that corner while we have that setup going ! 2 hives are destructible. A rep requires you to have one less gun firing, a standard AR with no skills or damage mods does 430 DPS. My setup gives me enough DPS to kill you before a rep cycle even happens. Mind you, armor is extremely vulnerable to grenades, and your two nanohives? Destroyed. So all I need to do is throw a little grenade and laugh. Lastly, to get that you need to be a logi. Assault as usual is inferior to a logi >_> Yes the hives are destructible ( tho they have 2x the hit points of a normal hive 400) but they have a almost 9m range.. further than any grenade . And yes it takes some small piece of team work to get going but i can tell u now it works VERY well. If your set up lets u charge my 950 hit point 2x complex damage mod duval while i am getting repaired then u have a very very nice setup .... better than 99% of everyone else we encounter ( and u say u run armor so what u complaining about ???) As for logis being better than assault ......yes i would say that some of them are way OP but some are in a good place
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 52	Posted - 2013.07.07 08:56:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Vickers S Grunt wrote: Or uses wiakomi hives or has a logi buddy . Armor is underrated My logi bro can kick out nearly 250 reps a sec with 2 hives and a core rep tool . No one is coming threw that door or round that corner while we have that setup going ! 2 hives are destructible. A rep requires you to have one less gun firing, a standard AR with no skills or damage mods does 430 DPS. My setup gives me enough DPS to kill you before a rep cycle even happens. Mind you, armor is extremely vulnerable to grenades, and your two nanohives? Destroyed. So all I need to do is throw a little grenade and laugh. Lastly, to get that you need to be a logi. Assault as usual is inferior to a logi >_> Yes but your dps is cut in half and there most likely shooting at you to.

Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1848	Posted - 2013.07.07 09:00:00 - [21] - Quote Let me explain to you how it works: The repairers only rep every 1 second. That means, if I can kill you within that one second, those reps don't do ****. In addition, that's as edge case as edge case can get, that setup requires huge SP + ISK + team work investment.
Cosgar ParagonX 2255	Posted - 2013.07.07 09:09:00 - [22] - Quote Vickers S Grunt wrote: Or uses wiakomi hives or has a logi buddy . Armor is underrated My logi bro can kick out nearly 250 reps a sec with 2 hives and a core rep tool . No one is coming threw that door or round that corner while we have that setup going ! I just discovered how powerful those things are. Armor is OP
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1848	Posted - 2013.07.07 09:14:00 - [23] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Vickers S Grunt wrote: Or uses wiakomi hives or has a logi buddy . Armor is underrated My logi bro can kick out nearly 250 reps a sec with 2 hives and a core rep tool . No one is coming threw that door or round that corner while we have that setup going ! I just discovered how powerful those things are. Armor is OP Edge case. If only those hives would regenerate, I hate being stuck near a supply depot. Also, low level armor tanking doesn't have access to that, and that's where armor sucks the most.
Cosgar ParagonX 2256	Posted - 2013.07.07 09:31:00 - [24] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Edge case. If only those hives would regenerate, I hate being stuck near a supply depot. Also, low level armor tanking doesn't have access to that, and that's where armor sucks the most. You brought up something that a lot of people overlook: the SP investment of shields vs armor. Most shield tankers could max out extenders and just buffer tank since shields regen automatically. Armor has to invest in plates and repair modules to be survivable, and then nanocircuitry to be effective. As far as nanohives go, we need more variants where we can carry more, or at least be able to retrieve them after we're done using them.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1620	Posted - 2013.07.07 09:44:00 - [25] - Quote Every idiot does it. As soon shields drop they rush you like a madman regardless on their own HP. The only case where they dont do it is vs heavys cause a heavy has tons of HP on armor and shields.
Cosgar ParagonX 2257	Posted - 2013.07.07 09:50:00 - [26] - Quote People don't realize Gallente > Caldari quite yet.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1848	Posted - 2013.07.07 10:07:00 - [27] - Quote Cosgar wrote: People don't realize Gallente > Caldari quite yet. I've been using Gallente for a while now. TBH? I don't see the upside. My PROTOSUIT is too tight to use an advanced nanohive, so having a repping one? lol, good luck.
Cosgar ParagonX 2257	Posted - 2013.07.07 10:15:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I've been using Gallente for a while now. TBH? I don't see the upside. My PROTOSUIT is too tight to use an advanced nanohive, so having a repping one? lol, good luck. Gallente are the last suits that really need to use the repper hives since you can just regen tank and stack damage mods. Maybe when hybrid sidearms come out, you can free up some space for at least the K-D hives.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1848	Posted - 2013.07.07 10:18:00 - [29] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I've been using Gallente for a while now. TBH? I don't see the upside. My PROTOSUIT is too tight to use an advanced nanohive, so having a repping one? lol, good luck. Gallente are the last suits that really need to use the repper hives since you can just regen tank and stack damage mods. Maybe when hybrid sidearms come out, you can free up some space for at least the K-D hives. HP buffer > Regen This is Dust in a nutshell Besides, Caldari get both more regen and HP buffer, so that. In addition to retaining their speed.
Cosgar ParagonX 2257	Posted - 2013.07.07 10:27:00 - [30] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: HP buffer > Regen This is Dust in a nutshell Besides, Caldari get both more regen and HP buffer, so that. I showed someone a Gallente fitting where they can stack damage mods, get 20~22 HP/s regen on their suit, and he went 19-3 the following round, only dying to a LLAV twice, and a sniper. The strafe speed change was a huge buff to armor since armor tankers have a constant HP regen that really comes in handy if you have some good footwork. It also made regen tanking more viable and shield energizers a must have for shield tankers that can't strafe... like CaLogis.



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