Don't complain about something you know nothing about. Divide those amounts by three. Maybe the reason you got so much is because we're getting 3x the SP.

Hey mr. Obvious I think he was just pointing out that you get more SP for not being usefull in a game...

Go count all of the other AFK complaint threads and you'll see why it gets annoying.

You're right, it IS annoying that CCP prefers people not to play their game, so much so that they go out of their way to reward them for it. It's almost as if people don't want this in the game, but clearly that must be wrong.

CCP keeps things like this in the game because there's no other draw besides SP. SP is what makes them money, it's what keeps people playing through bugs, it's what keeps people holding onto hope.

Basically, it's SP 514.

Go count all of the other AFK complaint threads and you'll see why it gets annoying.

Hey mr. Obvious I think he was just pointing out that you get more SP for not being usefull in a game...

What did you provide that was productive?

What did you provide that was productive?

I'm not the one complaining about something that CCP needs to fix while CCP is already well aware of the issue.

I'm not the one complaining about SOMETHING CCP NEEDS TO FIX while CCP is already well aware of the issue.

Its simple to end afk from clones. Turn on friendly fire.

I'm pretty sure CCP already knows about the AFK issue. People just like QQing. I mean if you seriously feel the need to whine, at least provide something productive like "SP rewards should be be determined by this factor", or maybe this factor". Who knows, an anti-AFK patch might come next week in the update.

You're blaming people for whining and you're whining yourself and telling them to atleast tell something productive.
So far you have pointed out that 11807 SP divided by 3 is still smaller than 12000 SP divided by 3 and blamed him about talking about something he knows nothing about without educating the poor soul.

Not really productive is it?

Sit in the MCC and you can't die....seems legit.

Hey mr. Obvious I think he was just pointing out that you get more SP for not being usefull in a game...

We've been at this for quite a long time now. CCP has basically already stated that this isn't something important to them. Mostly it's because they're working frantically to finally pull us out of the Beta stage of the game in order to actually release the game officially. Until then, simple things like this will continue to fall through the cracks, because it's simply not a priority for CCP.

Again, at this stage in the games development, ANYTHING that could hurt AUR sales will NOT be done. So, grab a lawn chair and get yourself a drink, AFK is the metagame of New Eden.

Adapt or die? Sit in the MCC and you can't die....seems legit.

You're right, it IS annoying that CCP prefers people not to play their game, so much so that they go out of their way to reward them for it. It's almost as if people don't want this in the game, but clearly that must be wrong.

CCP keeps things like this in the game because there's no other draw besides SP. SP is what makes them money, it's what keeps people playing through bugs, it's what keeps people holding onto hope.

Basically, it's SP 514.

Please stop trying to speak for me, I can do that too: You're probably an AFKer yourself and butthurt with these threads, seems to me like making the same progression is a good thing so you don't ruin other peoples game experience. Anyway feel free to add something so you can favour your standpoint and don't forgot to divide it by 3.

but to answer your post Yes I'm worked up but not about the SP-issue, more worked up about you because you think people make useless threads and calling them out about it and being useless yourself.

I don't have 24/7 to read all forum-posts to check what's duplicate or not but obvliously you do but didn't care to be productive and point us to a decent thread but instead decided to stack QQ on QQ.

You're right, it IS annoying that CCP prefers people not to play their game, so much so that they go out of their way to reward them for it. It's almost as if people don't want this in the game, but clearly that must be wrong.

CCP keeps things like this in the game because there's no other draw besides SP. SP is what makes them money, it's what keeps people playing through bugs, it's what keeps people holding onto hope.

Basically, it's SP 514.

That's speaking for him.

You seem pretty motivated to get me to say how I'm being productive. And since you haven't figured it out yet, I'll spell it out for you. First of all, your original comment about making SP an all-passive gain was condescending and meant to ridicule CCP by showing how stupid what they were doing was by comparing it to something that was just as bad. Thanks to me, you changed it into a more productive comment by adding that part about relating active SP gain to WP. Second of all, I'm helping to inforce #16 of the forum rules to keep the forums from getting clustered.

Its simple to end afk from clones. Turn on friendly fire.

Its simple to end afk from clones. Turn on friendly fire.

give us all some sort of a reporting function that challenges their inactive state. If they don't respond fast enough, they get booted from the mission. If that's too aggressive, make it remove FF and flag them on the map as a different color so everyone can just lay into them real quick to make them go back to the deployment map. Another option...let us actually push them out of the ship, perhaps by beating on them? This could work on the ground too I guess. Push them out into the open with either melee or a vehicle so the other team can snipe them for us.

Something seriously needs to be done though. Loosing matches left and right. Seen up to 6 people AFK in the MCC at times, often it's 3 or 4.

It's getting worse too. I played 4 games this morning and in 3 of them at least 4 guys were sitting in the MCC. We lost all 3 of those games. This is not to mention the rampant AFK going on all weekend (one game I joined there were 7 of them sitting in the MCC). I have just decided to play Dust less and less now. But it won't even matter in a few months for me because the PS4 will be out and there is no way I'm sticking around to put up with this crap.

sp earn is as this:(pre cap)
5SP per second spawned into match
(IE not in the overhead view before match because that doesn't count and the time to spawn in after a death is lost SP here, so a 10 second spawn takes away 50SP from you and 75w/ booster)
1SP per WP

so in your normal ambush you need to score 1500-2000 WP to beat the amount of SP(from WP) that an AFK would for that same match for just spawning in and you would need to score 4000-5000WP in a skirmish match.

post cap is
1SP per WP up to 1000 and that is it.

all of this is without boosters but the gains at the end would be greater(per match) and the WP needed would be the same to beat the passive spawned in SP earned and by beat i mean equal to or greater.