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Exmaple Core
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
455
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:57:00 -
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The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1354
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:58:00 -
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Pop turrets. Win game.
Not like they can hide. |
Exmaple Core
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
455
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:04:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Pop turrets. Win game.
Not like they can hide.
no they cant, but they can be manned and pop you when your calling down your tank. Additionally, you do not know when they are manned because you cannot see them. Also, you dont always have time to painstakingly advance your tank from cover to cover into LOS/railrange because your fighting a battle for objectives, and AV chases you or another rail tank. Furthermore, your using the same exact railgun. Why doesa free instilation drop get unlimmited range and LOS when my 2.7 mill isk, 18 million skill point tank has no possible way of having the same ability? Their the same weapon and should share the same range and los |
Kinky Burrito
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
55
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:11:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map
Seconded. Also, remove all railgun turrets behind the red line. |
Exmaple Core
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
455
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:21:00 -
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Kinky Burrito wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map Seconded. Also, remove all railgun turrets behind the red line. Thirded |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
82
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:30:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map Seconded. Also, remove all railgun turrets behind the red line. Thirded
please man that grammar...
I didn't read it but if your complaining about railgun installations my advice would be STOP. Just STOP it's just sad. An installation? a WEAK installation? a WEAK installation that can't barely kill MLT tanks or hit dropships. A WEAK isntallation that can't even one shot murder taxis. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1897
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:42:00 -
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The line of sight sucks anyway, and they're a good WP farm for AVers |
Medic 1879
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
568
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:50:00 -
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Railgun turrets dont have unlimited LOS I know this from trying to shoot down dropships that just suddenly disappear, maybe they do have longer sight ranges than tanks which would suck but saying they have infinite LOS is misleading. They also dont have infinite range I have been in a turret before and even though you can see Bolas's etc... the reticule doesn't go red you get and efficiency rating of 0 and shots do no damage so the dont have infinite range either.
I sympathize that HAV's are a bit naff at the moment though. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2171
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:08:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Pop turrets. Win game.
Not like they can hide. Lies I was driving my gunnlogi near the enemy redline earlier when a railgun turret started shooting me, rotate turret, just before I lined up a shot the turret turned invisible. Invisible turret then proceeded to kill me. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
599
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:09:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map Seconded. Also, remove all railgun turrets behind the red line. Thirded
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Pje251296
KILL ORDERS
9
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:12:00 -
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Be a badass and dodge the bullets, then hack the instillation. |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
236
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:14:00 -
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gbghg wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Pop turrets. Win game.
Not like they can hide. Lies I was driving my gunnlogi near the enemy redline earlier when a railgun turret started shooting me, rotate turret, just before I lined up a shot the turret turned invisible. Invisible turret then proceeded to kill me. And this is a good thing? More difficult now to redline other teams?
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Django Quik
R.I.f.t
798
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:16:00 -
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This is all just wrong. Have you actually tried using one of those installations? Most of the time they can't even see anything because they're behind a hill or wall. I have been manning them frequently over the last month or so and have gotten very accustomed to what they can do - range seems to be around the 500 mark, line of sight a bit more but most significantly they can only take 3 militia swarms or often 2 railgun or forge shots and you can not avoid anything! |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2171
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:23:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:gbghg wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Pop turrets. Win game.
Not like they can hide. Lies I was driving my gunnlogi near the enemy redline earlier when a railgun turret started shooting me, rotate turret, just before I lined up a shot the turret turned invisible. Invisible turret then proceeded to kill me. And this is a good thing? More difficult now to redline other teams? I have no idea how you could possibly think invisible turrets are a good thing |
Provolonee
Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY
39
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:29:00 -
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I hope we can fit and deploy them soon. think about what that will do to the flow of battle. Tanks will never be comfortable, with turret locations. Tower defense like game play. They better bring back some monster tanks first though. As it is now turrets are just for WP farming at the beginning of the match. |
Provolonee
Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY
39
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:31:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:gbghg wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Pop turrets. Win game.
Not like they can hide. Lies I was driving my gunnlogi near the enemy redline earlier when a railgun turret started shooting me, rotate turret, just before I lined up a shot the turret turned invisible. Invisible turret then proceeded to kill me. And this is a good thing? More difficult now to redline other teams? I have no idea how you could possibly think invisible turrets are a good thing I confirm invisible turret sighting. |
Kinky Burrito
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
55
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:54:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:This is all just wrong. Have you actually tried using one of those installations? Most of the time they can't even see anything because they're behind a hill or wall. I have been manning them frequently over the last month or so and have gotten very accustomed to what they can do - range seems to be around the 500 mark, line of sight a bit more but most significantly they can only take 3 militia swarms or often 2 railgun or forge shots and you can not avoid anything!
Stop reminding us how easy they are to kill. We are talking about rail gun turrets that are invisible to you unless you run up on them behind the red line. |
Void Echo
Internal Error.
331
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:56:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map
any tank driver that gets caught by instillations deserves to be destroyed by them |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
84
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:59:00 -
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gbghg wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Pop turrets. Win game.
Not like they can hide. Lies I was driving my gunnlogi near the enemy redline earlier when a railgun turret started shooting me, rotate turret, just before I lined up a shot the turret turned invisible. Invisible turret then proceeded to kill me.
here's a question. The frack were you doing near the ENEMY redline? |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2172
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:02:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:gbghg wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Pop turrets. Win game.
Not like they can hide. Lies I was driving my gunnlogi near the enemy redline earlier when a railgun turret started shooting me, rotate turret, just before I lined up a shot the turret turned invisible. Invisible turret then proceeded to kill me. here's a question. The frack were you doing near the ENEMY redline? Trying to get an angle on the frikking enemy tank which was camped in there. |
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Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
84
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:04:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:gbghg wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Pop turrets. Win game.
Not like they can hide. Lies I was driving my gunnlogi near the enemy redline earlier when a railgun turret started shooting me, rotate turret, just before I lined up a shot the turret turned invisible. Invisible turret then proceeded to kill me. here's a question. The frack were you doing near the ENEMY redline? Trying to get an angle on the frikking enemy tank which was camped in there.
That was a crazy and reckless idea. That tank was baiting you for the trololz |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
2172
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
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I did not head out into the battlefield expecting to see disappearing turrets |
Dr Allopathy
Raging Pack of Homos
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
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I don't know where you're coming from; those installations generally rack up anywhere from 100/200-800 WP for me easily, depending on the map (the bridge map provides the most). |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
239
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:39:00 -
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fifthted |
Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ Orion Empire
678
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:52:00 -
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Yeah the view mechanics may work fine for reducing frame rate issues for ppl on the ground, but for a tank its absolutely deadly, you can't look up at a hill now and trust what your eyes are telling you, things disappear after you've seen them even though your range from the target hasn't changed. |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
160
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:59:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map
Thats why organized squads take out ALL turrets in a map before bringing in tanks. With a single Forge gunner, at the beginning of a game this is solved.
Of course you want to go Solo Invincible tank with nothing to counter you. Why dont you just pick gun and learn how to shoot without being covered by 5000+HP?
In other news. TURRETS NEED A BUFF. They get destroyed too easily . There is no way a TANK,in other words a ''mobile unit'', has more HP and resistance than a TURRET, stationary DEFENSIVE building... JUST saying.
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Felix Faraday
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
101
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:00:00 -
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Kinky Burrito wrote:Seconded. Also, remove all railgun turrets behind the red line.
No kidding, railtanks should be the only thing behind the red line, amirite? |
Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ Orion Empire
678
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:05:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Thats why organized squads take out ALL turrets in a map before bringing in tanks. With a single Forge gunner, at the beginning of a game this is solved.
Of course you want to go Solo Invincible tank with nothing to counter you. Why dont you just pick gun and learn how to shoot without being covered by 5000+HP?
In other news. TURRETS NEED A BUFF. They get destroyed too easily . There is no way a TANK,in other words a ''mobile unit'', has more HP and resistance than a TURRET, stationary DEFENSIVE building... JUST saying.
How can someone who references chess in their name so easily manage to sound like an inbred with a chip off his shoulder, did Exmaple touch you in a no no place recently?. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
186
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:15:00 -
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We need those to combat red line tankers x_x. First time hearing someone complain about installations. I can understand the invisible part but you can still hit it I think. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
263
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:27:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Pop turrets. Win game.
Not like they can hide. no they cant, but they can be manned and pop you when your calling down your tank. Additionally, you do not know when they are manned because you cannot see them. Also, you dont always have time to painstakingly advance your tank from cover to cover into LOS/railrange because your fighting a battle for objectives, and AV chases you or another rail tank hunts you. Furthermore, your using the same exact railgun. Why doesa free instilation drop get unlimmited range and LOS when my 2.7 mill isk, 18 million skill point tank has no possible way of having the same ability? Their the same weapon and should share the same range and los. It is laughable to argue that a tank of wich a player funnles upwards of a year's worth of SP into can not defend itself against a simple sentry instilation that is maned early from the MCC drop You use enforcers? I'm sorry to hear that. |
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