We need those to combat red line tankers x_x. First time hearing someone complain about installations. I can understand the invisible part but you can still hit it I think.

Thats why organized squads take out ALL turrets in a map before bringing in tanks.
With a single Forge gunner, at the beginning of a game this is solved.

Of course you want to go Solo Invincible tank with nothing to counter you. Why dont you just pick gun and learn how to shoot without being covered by 5000+HP?

In other news. TURRETS NEED A BUFF. They get destroyed too easily . There is no way a TANK,in other words a ''mobile unit'', has more HP and resistance than a TURRET, stationary DEFENSIVE building... JUST saying.

The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map

This is all just wrong. Have you actually tried using one of those installations? Most of the time they can't even see anything because they're behind a hill or wall. I have been manning them frequently over the last month or so and have gotten very accustomed to what they can do - range seems to be around the 500 mark, line of sight a bit more but most significantly they can only take 3 militia swarms or often 2 railgun or forge shots and you can not avoid anything!

Stop reminding us how easy they are to kill. We are talking about rail gun turrets that are invisible to you unless you run up on them behind the red line.

The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map

no they cant, but they can be manned and pop you when your calling down your tank. Additionally, you do not know when they are manned because you cannot see them. Also, you dont always have time to painstakingly advance your tank from cover to cover into LOS/railrange because your fighting a battle for objectives, and AV chases you or another rail tank hunts you. Furthermore, your using the same exact railgun. Why doesa free instilation drop get unlimmited range and LOS when my 2.7 mill isk, 18 million skill point tank has no possible way of having the same ability? Their the same weapon and should share the same range and los. It is laughable to argue that a tank of wich a player funnles upwards of a year's worth of SP into can not defend itself against a simple sentry instilation that is maned early from the MCC drop

The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map

I had a railgun installation in the enemy ground spawn hit my HAV every single time I popped out of cover from my ground spawn. The range was under 600m but the installation was invisible and never did I manage to find it by shooting at likely locations.

If i'm honest

any tanker that doesn't know the location of all the turrets on a map, they status (alive or dead) and how to hide from them...

needs to find something else to do.

you are asking someone to be omnicient of everything going on at once and expecting someone to know the status of invisible turrents. do you know if that invisible turrent is alive or destroyed?

If i'm honest

any tanker that doesn't know the location of all the turrets on a map, they status (alive or dead) and how to hide from them...

needs to find something else to do.

you are asking someone to be omnicient of everything going on at once and expecting someone to know the status of invisible turrents. do you know if that invisible turrent is alive or destroyed?

And this is a good thing? More difficult now to redline other teams?