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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1424
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:54:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:thunderdick7 wrote:Great Job CCP, worst 4th of July ever lol seriously? I'd hate to see you on the Christmas when you found out santa wasn't real :( um.... the 4th of july isn't real?
Or are you saying that the CCP dev team, like santa, is myth? |
Andromache Peilus
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:22:00 -
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Give CCP a chance at fixing it before we start sperging. |
Meconium Blue
Arcadiedge Shadow Legion
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:31:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Here's how I see the situation and I'm curious to understand exactly where the disconnect is what I'm thinking and what everyone else has been thinking because every time I tried to understand what people thought was going on the more confused I got.
So as I see it the weekly cap is 190,400 SP. On Wednesday if earned that much SP you would hit the soft cap and earn 1 SP per WP up to 1,000 SP. On Thursday the weekly cap would be increased from 190,400 to 571,200 SP. At this point there is no "remainder" or anything else. There's simply more SP to be earned before you hit the cap. Same as if you don't cap out in a single day and come back the next day. You continue earning SP until you hit the cap, it's just that simple. So no matter what day you earned the SP, how much you got this day vs that day or whether or not the rate has been tripled yet or not makes absolutely no difference. The absolute maximum every player will earn before hitting the soft cap is 571,200 SP. So would someone explain how you could possibly "lose" SP by playing on Wednesday?
And as for the "multiplying" or "adding" thing I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about at all. The only thing being multiplied is the amount of SP you get per WP (maybe time in match as well, don't know and doesn't matter). For example after hitting the soft cap you have to earn at least 1,000 WP to earn the full 1,000 SP. During the triple SP event you would only have to earn 334 WP to earn 1,000 SP since 334 x 3 = 1,002.
And I'm assuming that it wouldn't make a difference whether they started on Wednesday or Thursday is because all they were doing is changing those two values. However, those values most likely occur several times in the game's code and interact with multiple aspects of the software. One of those interactions was overlooked or entered incorrectly or already contained an unnoticed bug that is causing the behavior we're seeing. Or maybe each instance on those values needed to be changed manually and one got missed or entered incorrectly.
So anyway, that's just how I see this whole situation and the reason I feel like I'm on a different page than a lot of players.
The part you don't see is that all who capped on Wednesday are not getting the 3x bonus today
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers EoN.
141
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:35:00 -
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Andromache Peilus wrote:Give CCP a chance at fixing it before we start sperging.
The issue was raised as soon as the event was posted. Instead of checking the code, the devs reported misinformation. They had many days in advance to fix this, but wasted them because they made a careless error. Now it will take twice as long to fix, if it is able to be fixed at all.
From my count, this is the third time that a dev has posted incorrect information carelessly in about a week. Not an isolated incident. Easily avoidable. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
225
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:52:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:Andromache Peilus wrote:Give CCP a chance at fixing it before we start sperging. The issue was raised as soon as the event was posted. Instead of checking the code, the devs reported misinformation. They had many days in advance to fix this, but wasted them because they made a careless error. Now it will take twice as long to fix, if it is able to be fixed at all. From my count, this is the third time that a dev has posted incorrect information carelessly in about a week. Not an isolated incident. Easily avoidable.
worst part is that if they had taken the servers down first thing this morning when it was known it was mucked up the servers would be back up and fixed and the event would be going strong by now and only a small number of people would have been pissed off.
the department that answers tickets wouldnt be swamped for the next 3 days. the PR department wouldnt have to find some way to compensate people the devs on the forums wouldnt have wasted so much time this morning on damage control
it would be fixed and everyone would be happy
all they had to do was shut off the servers this morning as i suggested |
jamstar saa187
Imperial Populicide Legion Alpha Wolf Pack
18
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:55:00 -
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the easiest solution is sometimes the least palatable Chances. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
386
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:57:00 -
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everyone i know knew not to waste sp. i heard a rumor about CCP saying "no worries", but who believes anything they say?
i figured it would be the same as last time so i played an alt. |
Seed Dren
Ill Omens EoN.
27
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:07:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:everyone i know knew not to waste sp. i heard a rumor about CCP saying "no worries", but who believes anything they say?
i figured it would be the same as last time so i played an alt.
Its a sad day when you can't even trust the words of the developers anymore ( a mistake mistake that I will not make again) |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
225
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:13:00 -
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jamstar saa187 wrote:the easiest solution is sometimes the least palatable Chances. easyest cheapest (as far as i can tell although this im not sure of) best move for the customers of dust (we would have been a whole lot less angry)
customer satisfaction would have went up because for once CCP would of been seen as proactivly fixing things rather than stumbling in the dark.
now theres alot of factors that i wouldnt know of, so since they diddnt do this i HAVE to assume there was some reason it just wasnt possable to do since anyone with any experiance on these forums would of told you the shitstorm not doing it would create, and all the positive things CCP could of gotten out of such a move.
so i just have to assume it wasnt possable, its either that or assume that CCP has no idea how to manage a game and i would rather assume the former
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GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:27:00 -
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If this isn't fixed by tomorrow I will stop playing dust along with a few other people. I cant play a game when there are this many bugs. Doesn't matter how good the game is but with "bugs" almost everytime they put something out it kills the game. Nerd RAGE QUIT |
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StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
256
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:If this isn't fixed by tomorrow I will stop playing dust along with a few other people. I cant play a game when there are this many bugs. Doesn't matter how good the game is but with "bugs" almost everytime they put something out it kills the game. Nerd RAGE QUIT Can I have your ISK please? |
Nix Vulken
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:23:00 -
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StubbyDucky wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:If this isn't fixed by tomorrow I will stop playing dust along with a few other people. I cant play a game when there are this many bugs. Doesn't matter how good the game is but with "bugs" almost everytime they put something out it kills the game. Nerd RAGE QUIT Can I have your ISK please?
You're representing ROFL well I see. lol |
GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:29:00 -
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StubbyDucky wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:If this isn't fixed by tomorrow I will stop playing dust along with a few other people. I cant play a game when there are this many bugs. Doesn't matter how good the game is but with "bugs" almost everytime they put something out it kills the game. Nerd RAGE QUIT Can I have your ISK please?
Ill give a little to BlameJudge & the rest to my corp |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
256
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:35:00 -
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With Muck up's like this one I now have a great understanding why CCP said things will take Ten years to skill into. |
Ragnarok Apocolypse
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:38:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Here's how I see the situation and I'm curious to understand exactly where the disconnect is what I'm thinking and what everyone else has been thinking because every time I tried to understand what people thought was going on the more confused I got.
So as I see it the weekly cap is 190,400 SP. On Wednesday if earned that much SP you would hit the soft cap and earn 1 SP per WP up to 1,000 SP. On Thursday the weekly cap would be increased from 190,400 to 571,200 SP. At this point there is no "remainder" or anything else. There's simply more SP to be earned before you hit the cap. Same as if you don't cap out in a single day and come back the next day. You continue earning SP until you hit the cap, it's just that simple. So no matter what day you earned the SP, how much you got this day vs that day or whether or not the rate has been tripled yet or not makes absolutely no difference. The absolute maximum every player will earn before hitting the soft cap is 571,200 SP. So would someone explain how you could possibly "lose" SP by playing on Wednesday?
And as for the "multiplying" or "adding" thing I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about at all. The only thing being multiplied is the amount of SP you get per WP (maybe time in match as well, don't know and doesn't matter). For example after hitting the soft cap you have to earn at least 1,000 WP to earn the full 1,000 SP. During the triple SP event you would only have to earn 334 WP to earn 1,000 SP since 334 x 3 = 1,002.
And I'm assuming that it wouldn't make a difference whether they started on Wednesday or Thursday is because all they were doing is changing those two values. However, those values most likely occur several times in the game's code and interact with multiple aspects of the software. One of those interactions was overlooked or entered incorrectly or already contained an unnoticed bug that is causing the behavior we're seeing. Or maybe each instance on those values needed to be changed manually and one got missed or entered incorrectly.
So anyway, that's just how I see this whole situation and the reason I feel like I'm on a different page than a lot of players.
If you didn't hit the soft cap on wednesday, let's say only made 90,000 SP, then after server down time at the beginning of the event they only added 190,400 SP to your cap. That would make a total of 380,800 not 571, 200 SP. Thus making the event a double SP cap for those who played on Wednesday but didn't cap. I am still getting the triple SP during battles but got a bit shortchanged in the overall cap. CCP is staffed by humans, unlike some of the trolls who play this game, and humans make mistakes. Sometimes its hard to plan for every possible outcome when planning events or programming new things. I am sure CCP does care about their customers and will do whatever they can, if they can, to fix their mistake |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire
480
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:45:00 -
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Andromache Peilus wrote:Give CCP a chance at fixing it before we start sperging. That would fundamentally break the basic essence of these forums. So ... nope.
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
550
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:12:00 -
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Andromache Peilus wrote:Give CCP a chance at fixing it before we start sperging.
CCP's way of fixing this = standard BPC gear as compensation in 2 months
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1424
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:28:00 -
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StubbyDucky wrote:With Muck up's like this one I now have a great understanding why CCP said things will take Ten years to skill into. 32 years
Eve online is ten years |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1424
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:30:00 -
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lets hope |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:34:00 -
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Ragnarok Apocolypse wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Here's how I see the situation and I'm curious to understand exactly where the disconnect is what I'm thinking and what everyone else has been thinking because every time I tried to understand what people thought was going on the more confused I got.
So as I see it the weekly cap is 190,400 SP. On Wednesday if earned that much SP you would hit the soft cap and earn 1 SP per WP up to 1,000 SP. On Thursday the weekly cap would be increased from 190,400 to 571,200 SP. At this point there is no "remainder" or anything else. There's simply more SP to be earned before you hit the cap. Same as if you don't cap out in a single day and come back the next day. You continue earning SP until you hit the cap, it's just that simple. So no matter what day you earned the SP, how much you got this day vs that day or whether or not the rate has been tripled yet or not makes absolutely no difference. The absolute maximum every player will earn before hitting the soft cap is 571,200 SP. So would someone explain how you could possibly "lose" SP by playing on Wednesday?
And as for the "multiplying" or "adding" thing I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about at all. The only thing being multiplied is the amount of SP you get per WP (maybe time in match as well, don't know and doesn't matter). For example after hitting the soft cap you have to earn at least 1,000 WP to earn the full 1,000 SP. During the triple SP event you would only have to earn 334 WP to earn 1,000 SP since 334 x 3 = 1,002.
And I'm assuming that it wouldn't make a difference whether they started on Wednesday or Thursday is because all they were doing is changing those two values. However, those values most likely occur several times in the game's code and interact with multiple aspects of the software. One of those interactions was overlooked or entered incorrectly or already contained an unnoticed bug that is causing the behavior we're seeing. Or maybe each instance on those values needed to be changed manually and one got missed or entered incorrectly.
So anyway, that's just how I see this whole situation and the reason I feel like I'm on a different page than a lot of players. If you didn't hit the soft cap on wednesday, let's say only made 90,000 SP, then after server down time at the beginning of the event they only added 190,400 SP to your cap. That would make a total of 380,800 not 571, 200 SP. Thus making the event a double SP cap for those who played on Wednesday but didn't cap. I am still getting the triple SP during battles but got a bit shortchanged in the overall cap. CCP is staffed by humans, unlike some of the trolls who play this game, and humans make mistakes. Sometimes its hard to plan for every possible outcome when planning events or programming new things. I am sure CCP does care about their customers and will do whatever they can, if they can, to fix their mistake
Yeah I think it's a honest mistake give them at least till Saturday. |
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Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
186
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:51:00 -
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Honestly... I'm American but why in the flying **** did they do this on the day of the 4th of July and just not Wednesday? I thought CCP were Iceland and umm Shanghai or something, they have a "studio?" In umm Atlanta I think... |
Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers EoN.
141
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:53:00 -
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So do we have a plan to fix this yet? I haven't got work tomorrow... :/ |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
87
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:00:00 -
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So I come back from being outside(it was gorgeous out today) and these dudes are still crying lol. Go to bed tomorrow is another day. Now im going to bed i will play dust tomorrow. CCP will get it fixed calm down breathe. |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:05:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:So I come back from being outside(it was gorgeous out today) and these dudes are still crying lol. Go to bed tomorrow is another day. Now im going to bed i will play dust tomorrow. CCP will get it fixed calm down breathe.
Yes but if it's not fixed by Saturday I'll rage hell. |
STABBEY
WarRavens League of Infamy
34
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:26:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:It's safe to play now, but you might hit the bugged cap. We'll resolve everyone with a bugged cap so you'll be able to hit the full cap by the end of the event. We're aiming to have a fixed deployed tomorrow during downtime so you'll get up to the full 570k-ish SP cap.
As for being unable to log into DUST, that was an issue due to a firewall configuration issue. EVE players also were unable to log in. We've fixed it and now everyone can log in as normal.
Stop b****ing until after DT, if its not resolved then you can continue the rants. |
Meconium Blue
Arcadiedge Shadow Legion
4
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:40:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:My interpretation of the blue was that you'd get 3*190,400 - whatever SP you earnt on wednesday
OMG!!! CCP give this person a nice office at your company and never let anyone other than him/her make announcements or answer public questions again. Maybe "2100 Angels" would even be willing to teach what the shortest distance between two points is. |
Meconium Blue
Arcadiedge Shadow Legion
4
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:42:00 -
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DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo wrote:KING SALASI wrote:So I come back from being outside(it was gorgeous out today) and these dudes are still crying lol. Go to bed tomorrow is another day. Now im going to bed i will play dust tomorrow. CCP will get it fixed calm down breathe. Yes but if it's not fixed by Saturday I'll rage hell.
They will fix it just in time to force a second full cap in 1 day. That was exciting!! |
J0LLY R0G3R
Shadow Company HQ
29
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:01:00 -
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Kinda figured this would be the case, yet I still played lol. |
Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
11
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:05:00 -
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I'm 30k short of what I need for my first Proto suit.....Come on CCP, this is mind torture... |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:26:00 -
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Meconium Blue wrote:DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo wrote:KING SALASI wrote:So I come back from being outside(it was gorgeous out today) and these dudes are still crying lol. Go to bed tomorrow is another day. Now im going to bed i will play dust tomorrow. CCP will get it fixed calm down breathe. Yes but if it's not fixed by Saturday I'll rage hell. They will fix it just in time to force a second full cap in 1 day. That was exciting!!
Yep time to train my all nighter skill skill to level 5 |
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