DUST Search - CCP- Since you added the pilot suit skills...

dustwaffle wrote:

hamual jackson wrote:

So if someone skilled into pilot drop suits CCP now owes them a sp isk refund, same for those who bought energizers and will not be able to use them because all of a sudden they don't meet the skill requirement You guys never learn that those same mistakes you keep making supports people when they yell for a respect. Doomed

So someone skilled into something that isn't out in the game yet, where they cannot see what stats that particular something will have, and still deserve a respec/refund/whatever, just because they were too stupid to think for themselves? Christ, do you even think before you sperg brainfarts all over the forums?

2nd point about shield energizers, that don't take skills to use.... Well, it does seem a bit obvious that everything ingame, bar militia items and a portion of Aur items, require skills to use, where increasingly better/effective variations of that item requires more SP investment. If something is otherwise, then unless CCP explicitly mentions that these items will not require SP, a person with a slight measure of intelligence would assume, in most cases correctly, that this is most likely due to an oversight.

In particular:

hamual jackson wrote:

You guys never learn that those same mistakes you keep making

This line highlights your barely disguised hypocrisy and shows how much of a fool you are.

tl;dr You're stupid, your post is bad and you should feel bad.

EDIT: toned down the flaming and disgust I feel at such levels of idiocy and entitlement

EDIT2: I just realized that you can't even buy the skill since it's not on the market, and the only reference to it ingame is the extra skill node in the skill tree. Thus, you are crying about people 'deserving' a refund/respec for ISK and SP they HAVE NOT COMMITTED YET. Well done! Idiocy has reached new lows today Lol

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mollerz Minja Scouts 557	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:03:00 - [1] - Quote Why not add the skills for all the missing racial suits as well? Seems like a good pre-emptive move and all. it's odd you didn't take that good idea all the way.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1293	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:09:00 - [2] - Quote mollerz wrote: Why not add the skills for all the missing racial suits as well? Seems like a good pre-emptive move and all. it's odd you didn't take that good idea all the way. I don't think it was an idea. I think they left those skills in there by mistake.
mollerz Minja Scouts 557	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:20:00 - [3] - Quote well.. as freudian a slip as it was... it was a great idea. almost. kind of.
BatKing Deltor Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY 35	Posted - 2013.07.03 01:07:00 - [4] - Quote They added in scrambler and flaylock skills before the actual item, may or may not be a mistake, either way they're there now.

CCP Remnant C C P C C P Alliance 334	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:10:00 - [5] - Quote They were accidentally left in. Types in the client need to be published in order to test and work on them. We (and by 'we', I mean 'me' ) didn't unpublish them once we knew they weren't going into 1.2. As a side note, the bonuses on those skills are all placeholder.

Corn In TheSkidmark Backstabbers N Cheaters Union 149	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:12:00 - [6] - Quote BUFF THE PILOT SUIT!
mollerz Minja Scouts 558	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:14:00 - [7] - Quote Thanks for clearing that up, mate. You guys may have included it by mistake, but sometimes the best ideas come from such mistakes. I'm telling ya! You are onto something ;)

CCP Remnant C C P C C P Alliance 336	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:21:00 - [8] - Quote mollerz wrote: Thanks for clearing that up, mate. You guys may have included it by mistake, but sometimes the best ideas come from such mistakes. I'm telling ya! You are onto something ;) Sometimes accidents give us Penicillin, other times they give us Chernobyl.

Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 20	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:27:00 - [9] - Quote Please don't make them worse then that. Change them slightly, but don't make them worse than that. You did good, don't ** this up.... Please, just don't. I'll give you my hope if you do that you guys actually can do vehicle combat right........ Just don't ** it up
mollerz Minja Scouts 560	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:29:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: mollerz wrote: Thanks for clearing that up, mate. You guys may have included it by mistake, but sometimes the best ideas come from such mistakes. I'm telling ya! You are onto something ;) Sometimes accidents give us Penicillin, other times they give us Chernobyl. haha.. well.. This is clearly a case of Linezolid and not a Fukushima in any way

The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 500	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:30:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: mollerz wrote: Thanks for clearing that up, mate. You guys may have included it by mistake, but sometimes the best ideas come from such mistakes. I'm telling ya! You are onto something ;) Sometimes accidents give us Penicillin, other times they give us Chernobyl. I like that the skill is in, this mistake allows us to speculate and rage over something new. These kinds of accidents are good and fun, I would like to see more as long as they are usable within a few updates. I would really like to see some real prototype items dropped. Drop some actual pilot suits as loot here and there to allow pilots to use them. Drop some scout or heavy suits that have racial bonuses that are different from the one we have now. They could always be recalled at the next patch cycle or DT. Giving mercs the chance to win something that is a true prototype would be really cool and encourage more players to be on playing instead of AFKing.

CCP Remnant C C P C C P Alliance 344	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:33:00 - [12] - Quote Vehicles aren't really my area, but we will be addressing vehicle and AV weapon balance (and of course the Pilot role falls into this). They can't be done independently for obvious reasons so it'll be a big fat chunk of work that'll get done just as soon as we get a whole lot of other niggling bits and pieces out of the way. We'll put out the numbers before the release that contains these go out so y'all can rip it apart as you tend to do


CCP Remnant C C P C C P Alliance 349	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:38:00 - [13] - Quote mollerz wrote: CCP Remnant wrote: mollerz wrote: Thanks for clearing that up, mate. You guys may have included it by mistake, but sometimes the best ideas come from such mistakes. I'm telling ya! You are onto something ;) Sometimes accidents give us Penicillin, other times they give us Chernobyl. haha.. well.. This is clearly a case of Linezolid and not a Fukushima in any way So... I ONLY caused optic nerve damage? Phew. And here I thought it was something serious.

Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 21	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:57:00 - [14] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: CCP Remnant wrote: mollerz wrote: Thanks for clearing that up, mate. You guys may have included it by mistake, but sometimes the best ideas come from such mistakes. I'm telling ya! You are onto something ;) Sometimes accidents give us Penicillin, other times they give us Chernobyl. I like that the skill is in, this mistake allows us to speculate and rage over something new. These kinds of accidents are good and fun, I would like to see more as long as they are usable within a few updates. I would really like to see some real prototype items dropped. Drop some actual pilot suits as loot here and there to allow pilots to use them. Drop some scout or heavy suits that have racial bonuses that are different from the one we have now. They could always be recalled at the next patch cycle or DT. Giving mercs the chance to win something that is a true prototype would be really cool and encourage more players to be on playing instead of AFKing. I'm confused; are you saying only have pilots suits as a salvage? If so, no.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 428	Posted - 2013.07.03 09:16:00 - [15] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: I'm confused; are you saying only have pilots suits as a salvage? If so, no. He's suggesting that CCP put litteral prototype pilot (and other) suit designs in as salvage. Both as a way to test out balance without causeing major issues if something ends up really OP (since CCP can control the amount of them in game and remove them easily with a hotfix) and as a way to encourage people to actually play the game.
HowDidThatTaste Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2909	Posted - 2013.07.03 09:52:00 - [16] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: I'm confused; are you saying only have pilots suits as a salvage? If so, no. He's suggesting that CCP put litteral prototype pilot (and other) suit designs in as salvage. Both as a way to test out balance without causeing major issues if something ends up really OP (since CCP can control the amount of them in game and remove them easily with a hotfix) and as a way to encourage people to actually play the game. No I don't think that they are in as salvage. they are listed under minatar medium suits or somewhere under minatar. It shows the skill tree necessary to get there and some stats but you can't unlock them.
hamual jackson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 22	Posted - 2013.07.03 10:20:00 - [17] - Quote So if someone skilled into pilot drop suits CCP now owes them a sp isk refund, same for those who bought energizers and will not be able to use them because all of a sudden they don't meet the skill requirement You guys never learn that those same mistakes you keep making supports people when they yell for a respect. Doomed
The WindowLicker Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.07.03 10:23:00 - [18] - Quote hamual jackson wrote: So if someone skilled into pilot drop suits CCP now owes them a sp isk refund, same for those who bought energizers and will not be able to use them because all of a sudden they don't meet the skill requirement You guys never learn that those same mistakes you keep making supports people when they yell for a respect. Doomed Take some anger management courses
hamual jackson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 22	Posted - 2013.07.03 10:25:00 - [19] - Quote The WindowLicker wrote: hamual jackson wrote: So if someone skilled into pilot drop suits CCP now owes them a sp isk refund, same for those who bought energizers and will not be able to use them because all of a sudden they don't meet the skill requirement You guys never learn that those same mistakes you keep making supports people when they yell for a respect. Doomed Take some anger management courses Troll get lost. Angry for what you useless post., better yet go lick a window.
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 42	Posted - 2013.07.03 10:26:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: a whole lot of other niggling bits You racist son of a kitten :p

dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 133	Posted - 2013.07.03 10:41:00 - [21] - Quote hamual jackson wrote: So if someone skilled into pilot drop suits CCP now owes them a sp isk refund, same for those who bought energizers and will not be able to use them because all of a sudden they don't meet the skill requirement You guys never learn that those same mistakes you keep making supports people when they yell for a respect. Doomed So someone skilled into something that isn't out in the game yet, where they cannot see what stats that particular something will have, and still deserve a respec/refund/whatever, just because they were too stupid to think for themselves? Christ, do you even think before you sperg brainfarts all over the forums? 2nd point about shield energizers, that don't take skills to use.... Well, it does seem a bit obvious that everything ingame, bar militia items and a portion of Aur items, require skills to use, where increasingly better/effective variations of that item requires more SP investment. If something is otherwise, then unless CCP explicitly mentions that these items will not require SP, a person with a slight measure of intelligence would assume, in most cases correctly, that this is most likely due to an oversight. In particular: hamual jackson wrote: You guys never learn that those same mistakes you keep making This line highlights your barely disguised hypocrisy and shows how much of a fool you are. tl;dr You're stupid, your post is bad and you should feel bad. EDIT: toned down the flaming and disgust I feel at such levels of idiocy and entitlement EDIT2: I just realized that you can't even buy the skill since it's not on the market, and the only reference to it ingame is the extra skill node in the skill tree. Thus, you are crying about people 'deserving' a refund/respec for ISK and SP they HAVE NOT COMMITTED YET. Well done! Idiocy has reached new lows today
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 428	Posted - 2013.07.03 10:47:00 - [22] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: I'm confused; are you saying only have pilots suits as a salvage? If so, no. He's suggesting that CCP put litteral prototype pilot (and other) suit designs in as salvage. Both as a way to test out balance without causeing major issues if something ends up really OP (since CCP can control the amount of them in game and remove them easily with a hotfix) and as a way to encourage people to actually play the game. No I don't think that they are in as salvage. they are listed under minatar medium suits or somewhere under minatar. It shows the skill tree necessary to get there and some stats but you can't unlock them. Sorry, I meant to say "He's suggesting CCP should put litteral prototype pilot suit designs in as salvage..."
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 586	Posted - 2013.07.03 11:02:00 - [23] - Quote The bonuses are good CCP keep them in
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 651	Posted - 2013.07.03 12:56:00 - [24] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: ... sperg brainfarts all over the forums? ... This is now my favorite quote of the day. Well done, sir.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 161	Posted - 2013.07.03 13:04:00 - [25] - Quote Corn In TheSkidmark wrote: BUFF THE PILOT SUIT! THE PILOT SUIT IS OP!!! NERF IT!!!!
hamual jackson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 22	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:24:00 - [26] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: hamual jackson wrote: So if someone skilled into pilot drop suits CCP now owes them a sp isk refund, same for those who bought energizers and will not be able to use them because all of a sudden they don't meet the skill requirement You guys never learn that those same mistakes you keep making supports people when they yell for a respect. Doomed So someone skilled into something that isn't out in the game yet, where they cannot see what stats that particular something will have, and still deserve a respec/refund/whatever, just because they were too stupid to think for themselves? Christ, do you even think before you sperg brainfarts all over the forums? 2nd point about shield energizers, that don't take skills to use.... Well, it does seem a bit obvious that everything ingame, bar militia items and a portion of Aur items, require skills to use, where increasingly better/effective variations of that item requires more SP investment. If something is otherwise, then unless CCP explicitly mentions that these items will not require SP, a person with a slight measure of intelligence would assume, in most cases correctly, that this is most likely due to an oversight. In particular: hamual jackson wrote: You guys never learn that those same mistakes you keep making This line highlights your barely disguised hypocrisy and shows how much of a fool you are. tl;dr You're stupid, your post is bad and you should feel bad. EDIT: toned down the flaming and disgust I feel at such levels of idiocy and entitlement EDIT2: I just realized that you can't even buy the skill since it's not on the market, and the only reference to it ingame is the extra skill node in the skill tree. Thus, you are crying about people 'deserving' a refund/respec for ISK and SP they HAVE NOT COMMITTED YET. Well done! Idiocy has reached new lows today Did i say give a refund, and i just noticed swell. People skilled into flaylock and scrambler rifle before they hit the market. Energizers show stats. Im glad i upset you though, mistake that result in any spending isk on equipment to later not be able to use constantly occurs in updates. Now go find another thread to troll i see you do it quite often......
Cruor Abominare Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:29:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: mollerz wrote: Thanks for clearing that up, mate. You guys may have included it by mistake, but sometimes the best ideas come from such mistakes. I'm telling ya! You are onto something ;) Sometimes accidents give us Penicillin, other times they give us Chernobyl. Other accidents result in needing shots of penicillin.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1888	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:57:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: They were accidentally left in. Types in the client need to be published in order to test and work on them. We (and by 'we', I mean 'me' ) didn't unpublish them once we knew they weren't going into 1.2. As a side note, the bonuses on those skills are all placeholder. Is it safe to put SP into them ahead of time, or will they be removed and our SP lost with them?
Cody Sietz Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 349	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:02:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: mollerz wrote: Thanks for clearing that up, mate. You guys may have included it by mistake, but sometimes the best ideas come from such mistakes. I'm telling ya! You are onto something ;) Sometimes accidents give us Penicillin, other times they give us Chernobyl. My accidents resulted in mostly babies. But yeah, you kind of let us see what you were going for (even if by accident) and the community responded with tons of feedback(tankers said "give us the OP stats" and everyone else said "please...no")
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3002	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:07:00 - [30] - Quote I'm surprised no one complained about training pilot skills before realizing there are no pilot suits.

Covert Clay Red Star. EoN. 45	Posted - 2013.07.03 23:29:00 - [31] - Quote May i atleast ask what CCP Blam! has been doing for the last 2 months??
dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 142	Posted - 2013.07.04 01:47:00 - [32] - Quote hamual jackson wrote: Did i say give a refund hamual jackson wrote: So if someone skilled into pilot drop suits CCP now owes them a sp isk refund, same for those who bought energizers and will not be able to use them because all of a sudden they don't meet the skill requirement And... hamual jackson wrote: Im glad i upset you though, mistake that result in any spending isk on equipment to later not be able to use constantly occurs in updates. You just got schooled, son. Get good. hamual jackson wrote: Now go find another thread to troll i see you do it quite often...... Nice irony there. Also, what did I say about sperging your brainfarts all over the forums. You whined about a non-existent problem, and got called out. Man up and get over it.
dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 142	Posted - 2013.07.04 01:49:00 - [33] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I'm surprised no one complained about training pilot skills before realizing there are no pilot suits. hamual jackson wrote: So if someone skilled into pilot drop suits CCP now owes them a sp isk refund, same for those who bought energizers and will not be able to use them because all of a sudden they don't meet the skill requirement You guys never learn that those same mistakes you keep making supports people when they yell for a respect. Doomed Says you
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards 89	Posted - 2013.07.04 01:53:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: They were accidentally left in. Types in the client need to be published in order to test and work on them. We (and by 'we', I mean 'me' ) didn't unpublish them once we knew they weren't going into 1.2. As a side note, the bonuses on those skills are all placeholder. placeholders for what..... different bonuses or perhaps a unique pilot abilty hmmmm?
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards 89	Posted - 2013.07.04 02:07:00 - [35] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Corn In TheSkidmark wrote: BUFF THE PILOT SUIT! THE PILOT SUIT IS OP!!! NERF IT!!!! well to be honest pilot suits are a light frame suit, lke scouts, and we know that...... scouts are a dieing breed and their effectiveness will enhance the logi. scouts you and your kind will be dissolved into the logi. join us or perish. resistance is futile. your mind is our cpu..... your soul is our pg. first you then the heavys.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 99	Posted - 2013.07.04 02:34:00 - [36] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: They were accidentally left in. Types in the client need to be published in order to test and work on them. We (and by 'we', I mean 'me' ) didn't unpublish them once we knew they weren't going into 1.2. As a side note, the bonuses on those skills are all placeholder. You're in charge of dropsuits? If you are can you take some Ideas into consideration(Please Reply even if the response is critisising just hopefully constructivley) take a low slot from the Cal Logi Make General Assault Bounus help increase damage output (2% per level) Minnie Racial stay the same Cal Racial use the current general assault bounus or keep the same Gal Racial keep the same Amarr Racial stay the same Make General Logi Bounus reduce PG/CPU requirements of equipment like the Gallente Suit Minnie Racial Dunno? Gal Racial use current logi bounus Cal Racial tweak to 2% per shield extenders Amarr Racial 2% boost to Make General Scout Bounus boost speed by 3% per level Minnie Racial Hacking Speed Gal Racial same Keep Sentinel Bounus the same Keep Commando Bounus the same Double HP of all armor plates(Ferro,Normal,Reactive) making armor High HP pool, low regen rate Reduce speed penalites for Ractive and Normal plates to 2% for basic 3% for enhanced 5% for complex so that it indicates better quality plates by only light HP reduction because the regen is already slow enough.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 99	Posted - 2013.07.04 02:35:00 - [37] - Quote Mac Dac wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: Corn In TheSkidmark wrote: BUFF THE PILOT SUIT! THE PILOT SUIT IS OP!!! NERF IT!!!! well to be honest pilot suits are a light frame suit, lke scouts, and we know that...... scouts are a dieing breed and their effectiveness will enhance the logi. scouts you and your kind will be dissolved into the logi. join us or perish. resistance is futile. your mind is our cpu..... your soul is our pg. first you then the heavys. wow sad, then again it isn't suprising for those who are different to discrimiated against...
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards 93	Posted - 2013.07.05 00:49:00 - [38] - Quote Colonel Killar wrote: Mac Dac wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: Corn In TheSkidmark wrote: BUFF THE PILOT SUIT! THE PILOT SUIT IS OP!!! NERF IT!!!! well to be honest pilot suits are a light frame suit, lke scouts, and we know that...... scouts are a dieing breed and their effectiveness will enhance the logi. scouts you and your kind will be dissolved into the logi. join us or perish. resistance is futile. your mind is our cpu..... your soul is our pg. first you then the heavys. wow sad, then again it isn't suprising for those who are different to discrimiated against... not discrimination...... extinction my friend. your people arent being isolated they are conforming to the better race........ you too wil be intimate with the logi just like the others. And your love for the logi will transcend all others god i sound like an amar
Noc Tempre Internal Error. League of Infamy 2073	Posted - 2013.07.05 00:50:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: They were accidentally left in. Types in the client need to be published in order to test and work on them. We (and by 'we', I mean 'me' ) didn't unpublish them once we knew they weren't going into 1.2. As a side note, the bonuses on those skills are all placeholder. Placeholder like the ferro/reactive plate stats were placeholders?
Eriknaught Vader's Taco Shack 20	Posted - 2013.07.05 02:03:00 - [40] - Quote Mac Dac wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: Corn In TheSkidmark wrote: BUFF THE PILOT SUIT! THE PILOT SUIT IS OP!!! NERF IT!!!! well to be honest pilot suits are a light frame suit, lke scouts, and we know that...... scouts are a dieing breed and their effectiveness will enhance the logi. scouts you and your kind will be dissolved into the logi. join us or perish. resistance is futile. your mind is our cpu..... your soul is our pg. first you then the heavys. WAS a Logi, switched to Scout and kitten PROUD of it. Where's your lightning spewing God now? Just remember, we are ALL part of the same Biomass. That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION.



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