While I can enjoy the compromise, this is ultimately still just a lav buff. It's incredibly hard to not hit the hav, a hav pilot mightlike to ***** about the tracking but the nades rarely land far from the things.

So hav pilots will still be back to complain, meanwhile all you really accomplish is buffing lavs and giving another, un needed incentive to have even more lavs out on the field.

I still feel that ultimately the problem is that the current hav mentality is to ram all the things because they feel the isk tag price should entitle them to invincible solo pwn mobile, and their deaths tend to be around mostly ramming the red dot line and beingnsurprised when half a dozen av nades land on them.

If anything maybe a Beefier tank class role might be healthier one that gives up extra turrets for more hp so they don't feel as squishy as the enforcer glass cannon frame but have more blind spots from not having the extra two turrets.

That guy in the video basically states why AV grenades need to be nerfed / removed - Why run a swarm launcher and hinder yourself when you can have an assault rifle with some AV grenades?

Until LAV's are fixed, AV grenades should stay in the game.
Heck, buff them, I've thrown three AV grenades at a LLAV and only half it's shields got scratched.

Perfectly fine with me.

Remove tracking all together, make them explode on contact with a vehicle, damage remains the same.

Done.

So.... your dream is to want HAVs to constantly Redline Snipe?

AV Nades should be removed or seriously nerfed, like almost all other AV weapons they require no skill, but except these can be carried around by a Cal Logi packing a Duvolle.

What happened to the good old days where a tank driver knew better than to "rush" with no fear of assault av classes, and expected squad cohecison to take out enemy av and assault.

A tank is not a "rambo" class....and should never be allowed to be one...bottom line.

The lav death taxi thing is just a huge joke.....there is no room for these player types in a squad unless its ambush.

I wish there was a way I could start a crusade in which EVERYONE runs AV grenades 24/7. Could you imagine how peaceful the Dust world would be once all vehicle operators have a constant fear of not being able to call in their vehicles due to constant AV pressure at all times. Make them run the red line and play the outskirts of the maps with fear of joining the front lines due to constant AV pressure...... It may seem like a dream, but we can make this a reality

Dust 514 : The Importance Of AV Grenades

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoXHCsk3hw

Ever since the build where tanks were pretty much unstoppable they thought they should be like that.

Dont worry brobro.

Assault rifle + Swarm Launcher Commandos are coming soon....

Umm....no

Their a big different between STD and PRO asset. I hard to take a beating when i'm in my Madruger with is dmg control, armor hardener, and armor rep on. That all of the vehicle are still STD. Please CCP give us at least a ADV vehicle PPPLLLEEEAAASSEE!!!

Make them run the red line

Umm yeah.

Afraid you'll lose your crutch, heck this way you have to use actualy skill to play AV, imagine that?

Either this, or HAVs get a high slot module (High slot because all tracking AV is Anti-Armour) that disables all tracking for a short period of time within a limited range, AV Nades can still damage a HAV, but they have to rely on direct contact, not their tracking.

What ??? So your saying youd rather tanks returned to unkillable redline sniping. I serioisly dont think you mean that. This thread tbh looks like a cod514 promotion cause believe it or not thats what would happen if everyone ran av nades.