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zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:07:00 -
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With just the standard active scanner I can see who and what is in the 90 degree, 100 meter area ahead of me (other than proto scouts and those using sensor dampeners). That intel is not only fun to see but can very useful, whether attacking or defending a position. And that's just the standard one. The proto level has an interesting variety of options, such as one that scans at 28dB and keeps enemies marked for 25 seconds! And another one that scans to 200 meters at a 90 degree angle and marks for 8 seconds! And they give this intel to your whole squad!
These are extrememly useful! Not to mention fun to use. Yet I've only been tagged by one once in all the times I've played. Why don't people use them more? I've just been using one for a day and already find it to be invaluable. |
Balzich Rotaine
Rotaine Shipping Inc
84
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:12:00 -
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No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1230
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:13:00 -
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Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. Pretty much this. Why help the team when helping yourself helps you out so much more? |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
13
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:14:00 -
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Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd.
Wow I think you nailed it. Such a shame. They need to give teams some kind of incentive to win matches (and drawback to not winning.) |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
83
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:16:00 -
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most people worry more about survivibility in a fire fight rather then be hidden from scanners. So the only people who use them are mainly support role types and sneaky scouts. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
161
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:18:00 -
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Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. No. No one uses it because you get no WP for using it. |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
15
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:20:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. Pretty much this. Why help the team when helping yourself helps you out so much more?
Right! You get more SP, ISK, and get higher on your leaderboards by focusing on KDR at the expense of everything else. Of course nanohives, injectors, and links give you warpoints too, but the scanner doesn't. So it's odd man out.
If you care about your team winning (and you're talking to your squadmates, who are getting the intel) you'll strongly consider using it though. Another example of why there needs to be some incentive to winning matches. |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:21:00 -
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They're wonderful pieces of kit. The T3 Quantum is a quick wide area scan at 36dB that tags for 15 seconds.
Main issue is that there's some rounds it doesn't work at all. Godzilla could be wrecking up the place 10 feet away and it wouldn't be able to scan him.
Only about a fifth of the time though. Outside of those instances it's golden. Still trying to nail down a cause for it but so far not been able to find anything I can begin to link to it fizzling. |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
184
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:21:00 -
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The Swarm launcher has a similar stigma too, depite the fact that advance levels can be very deadly... I miss my AV fit... |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
691
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:21:00 -
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Because everything you can see with your scanner I can see with my eyes unassisted Now if it lit up enemies like the enemy locator grenade in Metal Gear it would be drastically more useful |
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zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
15
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:22:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. No. No one uses it because you get no WP for using it.
Unbelievable that so much of the player base ignores it because they're fixated on WP like pavlovian dogs. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
83
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:23:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. No. No one uses it because you get no WP for using it. which pretty much means its not very benefitcial to the grind only for real support oriented players. |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
15
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:26:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Because everything you can see with your scanner I can see with my eyes unassisted Now if it lit up enemies like the enemy locator grenade in Metal Gear it would be drastically more useful
No offense but you're either full of **** or have no idea what you're talking about. :) You can't see through walls or onto roofs and you cant make every enemy in range show up as a red dot on the minimap and a red chevron on the screen. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
84
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:28:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Because everything you can see with your scanner I can see with my eyes unassisted Now if it lit up enemies like the enemy locator grenade in Metal Gear it would be drastically more useful you can scan through walls and always see that player for the set time. |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:31:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Because everything you can see with your scanner I can see with my eyes unassisted Now if it lit up enemies like the enemy locator grenade in Metal Gear it would be drastically more useful Don't need LoS to scan. 100m range at 60-¦ covers a massive amount of ground, lights up enemies on both radar and HUD via chevrons for the duration.
You're not too far away from claiming wall hacks have no practical utility. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
399
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:32:00 -
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As a stealth scout I don't approve of this thread. |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
19
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:32:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. No. No one uses it because you get no WP for using it. which pretty much means its not very benefitcial to the grind only for real support oriented players.
True. It take so damn long to get to that proto suit you're dreaming of (especially without boosters) that it's hard to fault players for focusing on getting maxing their WP. This is an FPS, not EVE. It shouldn't take so much grind to get to a point where you've got the fit you want and can compete on an even plane with high SP players. Even with boosters it takes too long. Hopefully they'll at least give us another 3x SP weekend soon, so newbros have a chance to catch up some. |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
19
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:33:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:As a stealth scout I don't approve of this thread.
LOL right? Even though I think the game would be a lot more interesting with more AS use, the silver lining is that until then I'll have the advantage. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5511
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:34:00 -
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I don't like how few equipment slots I have left though these days. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
634
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:36:00 -
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i fit a vehicle active scanner, or 2, on my "pa'TROLL car" |
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zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
20
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:37:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:most people worry more about survivibility in a fire fight rather then be hidden from scanners. So the only people who use them are mainly support role types and sneaky scouts.
Knowing where the enemy is attacking from and how many there are, not to mention tracking them as they move, is very important for survivability. |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I don't like how few equipment slots I have left though these days. Heh, know what you mean. If there are so many useful options that 4 equipment slots feels limited it's a good thing though.
Can't wait for ewar. Might fall into the domain of scouts more than logis, though. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
161
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:38:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Mac Dac wrote:most people worry more about survivibility in a fire fight rather then be hidden from scanners. So the only people who use them are mainly support role types and sneaky scouts. Knowing where the enemy is attacking from and how many there are, not to mention tracking them as they move, is very important for survivability. Yeah I totally agree with you. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:39:00 -
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I actually use them on a couple of my scout fits
I scan before I hack but theres a 50% chance it doesnt work in skirmish
but I do see myself going to advanced lvl with them
when the bugs are worked out |
negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
32
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:42:00 -
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the only reason i can't use it is because of the requirements
I'm in a mimnatar suit and it got low pg and cpu want to use it |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
342
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:44:00 -
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Nobody uses it because its buggy and unreliable. I think it is 100% broke in Skirmish. It seems to work fine in Ambush though.
But yeah, anyone who used it likely gave up after the 10th time a heavy popped around the corner they just scanned. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
691
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:46:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Because everything you can see with your scanner I can see with my eyes unassisted Now if it lit up enemies like the enemy locator grenade in Metal Gear it would be drastically more useful Don't need LoS to scan. 100m range at 60-¦ covers a massive amount of ground, lights up enemies on both radar and HUD via chevrons for the duration. You're not too far away from claiming wall hacks have no practical utility.
Yeah, and floating your cross hairs over an enemy gives the same effect even through walls Its a cool piece of gear but it severely lacks when you can get the same effect without it |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
55
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:47:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote: Unbelievable that so much of the player base ignores it because they're fixated on WP like pavlovian dogs.
How else are my minions going to earn the recruiter awards for me? |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
20
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:48:00 -
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negative49er wrote:the only reason i can't use it is because of the requirements
I'm in a mimnatar suit and it got low pg and cpu want to use it
Yeah it requires a commitment of resources, similar to drop uplinks, and it can be a pain to keep switching back to it via the radial menu. Imagine if CCP enabled us to access one equipment via weapon switch though! You could rapidly switch to it with no chance of accidentally selecting something else and keep using it at regular intervals. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
164
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:51:00 -
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I prefer not to rely on a piece of technology. We're given two pairs of eyes and ears, use it. |
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zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
20
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Posted - 2013.07.01 00:56:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:I prefer not to rely on a piece of technology. We're given two pairs of eyes and ears, use it.
Keep that in mind when you see me on your kill screen. ;) |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
84
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:01:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:As a stealth scout I don't approve of this thread. LOL you know scouts are a dieing breed. but seriously you and your kind will be dissolved into the logi. Join us or perish. Resistance is futile. |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
142
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:01:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:With just the standard active scanner I can see who and what is in the 90 degree, 100 meter area ahead of me (other than proto scouts and those using sensor dampeners). That intel is not only fun to see but can very useful, whether attacking or defending a position. And that's just the standard one. The proto level has an interesting variety of options, such as one that scans at 28dB and keeps enemies marked for 25 seconds! And another one that scans to 200 meters at a 90 degree angle and marks for 8 seconds! And they give this intel to your whole squad!
These are extrememly useful! Not to mention fun to use. Yet I've only been tagged by one once in all the times I've played. Why don't people use them more? I've just been using one for a day and already find it to be invaluable.
Dude keep it low... (I use it when i go nova knifing XD) |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
161
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:06:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Poplo Furuya wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Because everything you can see with your scanner I can see with my eyes unassisted Now if it lit up enemies like the enemy locator grenade in Metal Gear it would be drastically more useful Don't need LoS to scan. 100m range at 60-¦ covers a massive amount of ground, lights up enemies on both radar and HUD via chevrons for the duration. You're not too far away from claiming wall hacks have no practical utility. Yeah, and floating your cross hairs over an enemy gives the same effect even through walls Its a cool piece of gear but it severely lacks when you can get the same effect without it I might be wrong but the advantages of the scanner is that; when they are scanned they show up on the map and are shown to teammates. (Sorry if I used the semi-colon incorrectly ) |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
696
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:10:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Poplo Furuya wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Because everything you can see with your scanner I can see with my eyes unassisted Now if it lit up enemies like the enemy locator grenade in Metal Gear it would be drastically more useful Don't need LoS to scan. 100m range at 60-¦ covers a massive amount of ground, lights up enemies on both radar and HUD via chevrons for the duration. You're not too far away from claiming wall hacks have no practical utility. Yeah, and floating your cross hairs over an enemy gives the same effect even through walls Its a cool piece of gear but it severely lacks when you can get the same effect without it I might be wrong but the advantages of the scanner is that; when they are scanned they show up on the map and are shown to teammates. (Sorry if I used the semi-colon incorrectly )
No thats right but that effect alone is kind of meh if it can be replicated by just paying attention you know If it had an added effect like painting a target to guide missiles towards it that would be cool |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
161
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:13:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Poplo Furuya wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Because everything you can see with your scanner I can see with my eyes unassisted Now if it lit up enemies like the enemy locator grenade in Metal Gear it would be drastically more useful Don't need LoS to scan. 100m range at 60-¦ covers a massive amount of ground, lights up enemies on both radar and HUD via chevrons for the duration. You're not too far away from claiming wall hacks have no practical utility. Yeah, and floating your cross hairs over an enemy gives the same effect even through walls Its a cool piece of gear but it severely lacks when you can get the same effect without it I might be wrong but the advantages of the scanner is that; when they are scanned they show up on the map and are shown to teammates. (Sorry if I used the semi-colon incorrectly ) No thats right but that effect alone is kind of meh if it can be replicated by just paying attention you know If it had an added effect like painting a target to guide missiles towards it that would be cool That would be pretty sexy. Also add in a jamming ray or something (lol) to screw up their radar. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2966
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:25:00 -
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There is also the fact that using the active scanner alerts the person being affected that they are being scanned. They just don't know which way they are being scanned from. But then again, how many of us ever notice that we are being scanned? |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
186
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:29:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. Pretty much this. Why help the team when helping yourself helps you out so much more? Why equip a piece of electronics that is ******* useless as soon as bullets are flying? [Edit: Above said as a logi... scouts... get with the program and find me red dots] |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
22
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:32:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. Pretty much this. Why help the team when helping yourself helps you out so much more? Why equip a piece of electronics that is ******* useless as soon as bullets are flying? [Edit: Above said as a logi... scouts... get with the program and find me red dots]
Only one member of the squad need use it for all to benefit. And it helps you to dictate terms once the bullets start flying. |
Skipper Jones
Red Star. EoN.
191
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:33:00 -
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Because Remote Explosives are better. |
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dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
119
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:39:00 -
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I use from time to time as a novelty fit. They are fun to use and helpful to your team, BUT, having to give up one of my 3 equipment slots which could be used for nanohive/repper/RE/Uplinks etc., makes it a bit of a deal breaker. Also, not getting any assists or WP from it is also a bit meh. Finally, IIRC, using the scanner also makes the user pop up on the opposing team's HUD/radar?
If they had +5 WP assists for everyone that got scanned and killed as a result, I would definitely use it more. Maybe balance it a bit by giving out WP only if the person was killed when still lit up by scanners?
Also they do seem to a bit buggy, especially when you've scanned a room with no results and you run in straight into a heavy :( |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
492
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:43:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:As a stealth scout I don't approve of this thread.
Did someone see that? Hold on let me get my active scanner.
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
492
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:54:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:Surt gods end wrote:As a stealth scout I don't approve of this thread. LOL you know scouts are a dieing breed. but seriously you and your kind will be dissolved into the logi. Join us or perish. Resistance is futile.
I see the AS ( active scanner ) as a scout tool. Sneak in and scan down the bad guys for the team. It is Ewar in its most simple form. I use them and they do work but I prefer the way they worked in Chrome with on cool down. I would like to see a version that had no cool down but only tagged the targets while it was scanning. It is a hard to scan someone down if the scanner only works for 3 every 15 seconds. I scan then have to wait while it cools down, if I didn't catch them on the first scan then I think the coast is clear. I don't want to have to wait on the cool down.
People don't use it because it doesn't give WP, SP or ISK. I don't believe every action should give points and I don't really care about any of those things so using it doesn't bother me. My problem is getting into a squad that uses tactics and teamwork. There are so few people on and I am having a hard time finding squads.
Do the current modules that add to radar stats work on the AS or are they just the suit scanner?
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Sardonk Eternia
Multnomah Interstellar Holdings Inc.
98
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:03:00 -
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I run gallente logi and have 4 equipment slots. I only fill them with items which reward warpoints. the active scanner diminishes my ability to farm warpoints and thus skill points. I heard CCP will offer rewards for scanning enemies which are then killed by your buddies, like in battlefield. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
493
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:35:00 -
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I like the scanner giving nothing, it is an advantage to my team when I do use it. Points should not be awarded for everything. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
607
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:37:00 -
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Ain't nobody got slots for that!
I burn ammo like it's going out of style! I need my nanohives. |
loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:38:00 -
[47] - Quote
It is likely that more scouts would use the scanner if they had more equipment slots to begin with. I use to love my proto scout because I had nanos, nanite and an uplink. Now I got one slot and I always need ammo so guess what my only option is... It's too bad really because in the older patch there was a lot more teamwork and people were getting resed left and right and now if I die I don't even bother waiting, no one does it anymore. So yeah, scanner is not used because there are better options. Same goes for explosives actually. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
86
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:52:00 -
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i used to use scanners but then i relized how spoiled they were making me. i used to run my 'skinweave' logi fit with a rep tool and a standrd scanner. OMG i think i used that thing more then my eyes sometimes.
I used to spawn in at the beginning of the match and imedeitly scan even though i was in the middle of my team. I remember how i would scan before turning corners (sometimes it would bug and i would run straight into the arms of a HMG) and how i scaned almost imedeitly after the cooldown. Sometimes i would have my active scanner out more then my weapon.
after a while i begin to trust active scanners more then anything else. i couldnt just look and be sure nobody was there i had to scan. then it got worse i got obsessed with kepping enemies scaned to the point where i was felling helpless during colldowns. Almost as if i were naked everytime it was in cooldown i ran for cover looking around nervously not knowing where someone might appear from. if i couldnt scan i was blind.
i stop using scanners so that i can cut my dependency on them. they are a great tool but dont be dependent on them or you will die between charges. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
2
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:56:00 -
[49] - Quote
I'll use them on my PROTO Logi suit when I get it. I like keeping my boys alive and supplied, so I make it less important.
Peace, Aizen
(note: I'm a actual Logibro, shame you don't see many of those anymore, although you never really saw those.... I wonder what happened to Logi Bro) |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
216
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:58:00 -
[50] - Quote
They're bugged, otherwise they'd see more use. |
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Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
2
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:59:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:i used to use scanners but then i relized how spoiled they were making me. i used to run my 'skinweave' logi fit with a rep tool and a standrd scanner. OMG i think i used that thing more then my eyes sometimes.
I used to spawn in at the beginning of the match and imedeitly scan even though i was in the middle of my team. I remember how i would scan before turning corners (sometimes it would bug and i would run straight into the arms of a HMG) and how i scaned almost imedeitly after the cooldown. Sometimes i would have my active scanner out more then my weapon.
after a while i begin to trust active scanners more then anything else. i couldnt just look and be sure nobody was there i had to scan. then it got worse i got obsessed with kepping enemies scaned to the point where i was felling helpless during colldowns. Almost as if i were naked everytime it was in cooldown i ran for cover looking around nervously not knowing where someone might appear from. if i couldnt scan i was blind.
i stop using scanners so that i can cut my dependency on them. they are a great tool but dont be dependent on them or you will die between charges.
You sound like a EWAR addict. ' notices that he's Gallente' No wonder..... Grab some plasma and start slinging, until the drones come |
IR Scifi
Silver Talon Corporation
43
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:43:00 -
[52] - Quote
zzZaXxx wrote:
Yeah it requires a commitment of resources, similar to drop uplinks, and it can be a pain to keep switching back to it via the radial menu. Imagine if CCP enabled us to access one equipment via weapon switch though! You could rapidly switch to it with no chance of accidentally selecting something else and keep using it at regular intervals.
Quoted because I love this idea. Having a quick swap on my rep tool would be well...I'd have to hide my constant logi boner. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1854
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:13:00 -
[53] - Quote
Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. Doesn't quite add up. Seeing everybody will help your KDR a lot, so unless you're an idiot...that explains it |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
273
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:15:00 -
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I need a video capture device thing, you should see how a sniper see's an active scanner user..... |
steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
745
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:19:00 -
[55] - Quote
Giffs no warpoints so no point in using it that's the core of issue why do u think people use uplinks so much |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
33
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:34:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:I need a video capture device thing, you should see how a sniper see's an active scanner user.....
You're saying someone using an active scanner pops up as a chevron on your screen? |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
289
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:36:00 -
[57] - Quote
No, the manner in which nearly everyone uses this item makes them very vulnerable for a nice clean skull masher |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
35
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:01:00 -
[58] - Quote
Sgt Buttscratch wrote:No, the manner in which nearly everyone uses this item makes them very vulnerable for a nice clean skull masher
I'm intrigued. Can you be more specific? |
Xender17
Intrepidus XI Omega Commission
192
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:04:00 -
[59] - Quote
I would use it... If I was rewarded for using it. Something else could take it's place and would give me WP. |
Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:06:00 -
[60] - Quote
The scanning only works part of the time. From my experience, it works in some of the matches I'm in. When I first started using them, they worked in most of the matches but for some reason, they started working on perhaps half the matches. I've use the advanced version with 36db and the aurum prototype with 26 db. When they work, however, they are very great assets. |
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Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:09:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:No, the manner in which nearly everyone uses this item makes them very vulnerable for a nice clean skull masher I'm intrigued. Can you be more specific? I have noticed one Proto Logi cracking out an Active and begin scanning... in the open, while not moving.
Needless to say he got a Forge Gun round for his troubles.
I have no idea why he stopped like that, it's not really called for at all. I tend to use the same manoeuvre I use for reloading, if the stamina's available begin the scan at the start of a sprint-jump to maintain a bit of the sprint momentum for part of the action. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
67
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:11:00 -
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Balzich Rotaine wrote:No one uses it Because it is a support item and most people only care about their kd. CCP make K/DR Less of an issue make W/LR or loyalty more important, only K/DR needs to go this eliminates those who want to measure their e-peen |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
67
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:11:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:No, the manner in which nearly everyone uses this item makes them very vulnerable for a nice clean skull masher I'm intrigued. Can you be more specific? I have noticed one Proto Logi cracking out an Active and begin scanning... in the open, while not moving. Needless to say he got a Forge Gun round for his troubles. I have no idea why he stopped like that, it's not really called for at all. I tend to use the same manoeuvre I use for reloading, if the stamina's available begin the scan at the start of a sprint-jump to maintain a bit of the sprint momentum for part of the action. 1 ISK if it was a Cal Logi |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
67
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:15:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:I'll use them on my PROTO Logi suit when I get it. I like keeping my boys alive and supplied, so I make it less important. Peace, Aizen (note: I'm a actual Logibro, shame you don't see many of those anymore, although you never really saw those.... I wonder what happened to Logi Bro) Here too I have a fit with RE's Uplinks and an AS too if there is a resurecter/repper/resupplier logi in our squad on Gallente Character. |
Croned
C0NTRA UNIT
20
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:15:00 -
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I tried using one in skirmish before, but as others have said, it's completely broke in skirmish, so I got off on the wrong foot with it. Then my respec came, and I didn't spec back into it. I also use a heavy most of the time, so I don't even have an equipment slot. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
67
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:22:00 -
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Croned wrote:I tried using one in skirmish before, but as others have said, it's completely broke in skirmish, so I got off on the wrong foot with it. Then my respec came, and I didn't spec back into it. I also use a heavy most of the time, so I don't even have an equipment slot. it's only 18 k SP so I tried it and like it but it's a little unreliable indoors but in the "mushroom" outpost it is excellent |
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