Wow...
You obviously put a LOT of thought into this.

I actually love this, as it plays toward some of the same ideas I've stated in my own threads on the topic. I like the idea of the War Barge purchase being part of the invasion, and the shorter timer structure.

The only issue I could see is again running into the issue of time zones. Even if you still give an hour's warning of an attack, it doesn't do anything if the entire Corporation that owns it is asleep for the night, and if the game starts requiring players to recruit globally just to avoid getting steamrolled while they're in bed, we're going to be seeing a lot more angry people than we are now.

The 24-hour timer thing is a real killer, but I just don't see a way to avoid time-zone wars otherwise.

Some great ideas in here.

Almost looks like a lot of my threads on Open World with PC, and my Skirmish 3.0 Thread.

Should get together and collaborate on some ideas. Maybe we can make a huge proposal to CCP about this.

As for timezones, they are a problem. In EVE they're solved (somewhat) with a 24 hour reinforcement timer. So I tried to do the same thing here. I also added the Defense Grids to give corps other options besides recruiting globally. The proposal isn't perfect, so if you have a better idea for solving the timezone problem please share it. My wife and I have argued for hours about the timers (she's invested a lot of time in this proposal as well). I just don't think 1 match a day is the solution.

I've reposted it in General Discussion. And I have no problem with people reposting it to keep it popular, just throw a link to mine if you can. Thanks for all the amazing feedback. I'm at work typing this on a phone right now, so when I get home later I'll post some full length replied to the questions y'all have posed.

The only issue I could see is again running into the issue of time zones. Even if you still give an hour's warning of an attack, it doesn't do anything if the entire Corporation that owns it is asleep for the night, and if the game starts requiring players to recruit globally just to avoid getting steamrolled while they're in bed, we're going to be seeing a lot more angry people than we are now.

The 24-hour timer thing is a real killer, but I just don't see a way to avoid time-zone wars otherwise.

Wait didn't he put in something about certain modules that use 300 power (out of 600 total) each that restrict the time of attack by 8 hours, so theoretically you could use 2 to make sure it's within an 8 hour period (like 6pm to 2am). Maybe just make it use 200 power an they only restrict it by 6 hours so the total time they could attack is within a 6 hour window, but at the cost of the other module potential. Thoughts?

I'm already beginning to be invested in this idea, but I really would like a dev or GM to comment on if this is even plausible and worth our effort.

Interesting idea, I really like the amount of thought that goes into it, but I have questions/ concerns. Some are hard to articulate.

Are all these battles located on one district? If so, it would mean all that stuff will be going on on one map.

The shield relays are protecting the district, so shouldn't it be on the districts surrounding the one you're attacking? Or are the shield relays on the targeted district, but only shielding the outpost (or "city") and other important sites? I ask because its hard to get inside a district and fight on it if there is a huge shield around the entire thing preventing you from even getting in. I imagine the redline could be greatly expanded so a district could have lots of gameplay areas for the initial shield relay parts outside of the outpost part of the map.

EDIT 2: Seems like a lot of work just to take one district, I think such long campaigns should be reserved for districts with an Surface Command Center (something CCP mentioned, very important, 1 per planet). Perhaps the amount of points to conquer a regular district, and the amount of clones the attackers buy at a time to bring should be lower.

For Timezones, I like the Defense grid suggestion. I think its elegant and subtle and it works. You get a 8-10 hour window where you cannot be attacked. And if you are a really small corp you can fit 2 of them into each district slot and get 16-20 hours of invulnerability and only have to defend during your peak time, but you don't get any of the other perks.

I thought the Defense Grids were an elegant solution to Timezones. However, to make things simpler I dropped the GÇ£customizationGÇ¥ part of my proposal in the above revision. Each District would now have one Defense Grid which reinforces it for 16 hours. Basically, instead of you choosing the one hour youGÇÖre open to be attacked (current system) you choose the 8 hours you are open to be attacked (my proposal).

Here is the process of attacking a District under the proposed new systemGǪ

I still love the idea

OP has mysteriously vanished....

Kidnapped by CCP to fix PC maybe?

If the district could be configured just like a suit, it wouldn't be complicated at all, just sounds complicated on paper. It would be very intuitive in the UI, and when you attack the district, you could get a little popup map that makes it more intuitive for the attacker as well. You worked hard on your idea, keep it.

Thinking about it (Your idea, not mine), if we wanted to do battle types based on what you have placed.

Shield Relay battles could be like Skirmish, so you have multiple control points you have to hack. Except without the MCC (You don't want it to get blown up to easily in the first match of six, unless your warbarge comes with a like 6 pack of them, which would be cool), This battle should be your standard/default battle.

Skyfire battery battles could be like a kind of the hill type where you have to capture multiple points to capture the Skyfire battery. If you hold all 3 points, you win. Maybe.. This battle should be chosen by attackers or defenders if one or the other team has alot of EVE support and you want to shoot them.

The Defense Grid could be a straight up Domination match, whoever controls it wins. This battle would be chosen to fight outside of the normal attackable hours if the district battle wasn't won straight up in the first round of matches.

Looks nice.

However, can we manage to fit in real mercenary work in this?

Like an attacker paying me to attack a district, and due to the forward planning in battles, have the defenders able to contract out battles to Merc corps.

I like it in that it allows more people to get in PC without actually pissing off the established corps.

How did I miss this amazing thread?
It's completely unacceptable that this thread isn't blue tagged by True Grit.
OP you've done a stellar job at revamping PC.

Seems pretty damn good but what needs fixing is the lag and player boots, people locking their districts and corps incapable of ever fielding a full team paying to have battles won for them so they can aimlessly farm isk.

Right now pc is irrelevant, no one wants to take part because of this weak behaviour.

Once you succeed in destroying all 3 Shield Relays the District will enter Emergency Reinforcement mode for 24 hours. During this time it cannot be attacked and itGÇÖs Skyfire Battery will stop firing on your Warbarge.


Phase 2: Attack the Main District

When the District exits Emergency Reinforcement mode it will be unshielded. Your goal is to win battles and obtain 50 GÇ£control pointsGÇ¥ (better term needed). Each victory gains you points and each loss loses you points. You cannot drop below 0 control points.

District Configuration

As mentioned above a District can be configured. Each District has modules that defend / support it.

- 3x Shield Relay: These must be destroyed in Phase 1 to bring down the DistrictGÇÖs shields.
- 1x Skyfire Battery: Fires at the enemy Warbarge, will destroy it after 12 hours of firing. Does not fire when the District is in reinforced mode.
- 1x Defense Grid: Reinforces the District for a 16 hour block every day. District owner chooses the 16 hour block their District will be vulnerable during. This accommodates for timezones.

District Configuration

As mentioned above a District can be configured. Each District has modules that defend / support it.

- 3x Shield Relay: These must be destroyed in Phase 1 to bring down the DistrictGÇÖs shields.
- 1x Skyfire Battery: Fires at the enemy Warbarge, will destroy it after 12 hours of firing. Does not fire when the District is in reinforced mode.
- 1x Defense Grid: Reinforces the District for a 16 hour block every day. District owner chooses the 16 hour block their District will be vulnerable during. This accommodates for timezones.

Future: Having configurable module loadouts for the Districts would be nice. So that Corps with more timezone coverage could swap Defense Grids for more Shield Relays, and such.

Your proposed PC system is very well thought out. However, I don't think having ambush and skirmish/domination would fit. It would be better to go straight to skirmish 1.0 after the district exits emergency reinforcement mode.

If districts would be customizable like you described, the defense grids probably should defend the district for an 8 hour block instead of 16. That way, having more than 1 defense grid couldn't protect a district for 32hrs a day; with an 8 hour block per defense grid, it would would be OK to have 2 defense grids or swap one out for something else and be vulnerable for 16hrs a day instead of 24.

Your proposed PC system is very well thought out. However, I don't think having ambush and skirmish/domination would fit. It would be better to go straight to skirmish 1.0 after the district exits emergency reinforcement mode.

Your proposed PC system is very well thought out. However, I don't think having ambush and skirmish/domination would fit. It would be better to go straight to skirmish 1.0 after the district exits emergency reinforcement mode.

With the current game modes the proposed system is currently the best idea. It helps break up the monotony of constantly playing skirmish, which is what we do right now anyways. Until there are other game modes introduced Severus' proposal is the simplest and quickest way to change PC for the better.

You guys bring up some good points. I'm just saying that when I think of a battle between armed forces, the goals are objective based, not just killing each other like in ambush.