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CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.22 07:23:00 -
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I haven't been kill by one in a while. I kinda miss being instantly dropped by some guy spamming the TAC AR. |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX.
286
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Posted - 2013.06.22 07:35:00 -
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Still here, and making kids cry. Unlike the fake frauds who were letting the once OP characteristics of the gun carry them to victory and a false sense of being "Elite" or so far as "The Best Dust Player of All Time"(Markof22/PDIGGY),I still use the gun for what's its good at and I and it do it well.
Makes me lol, I haven't been killed by anyone with a TAC either.  |
CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.06.22 07:41:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:Still here, and making kids cry. Unlike the fake frauds who were letting the once OP characteristics of the gun carry them to victory and a false sense of being "Elite" or so far as "The Best Dust Player of All Time"(Markof22/PDIGGY),I still use the gun for what's its good at and I and it do it well. Makes me lol, I haven't been killed by anyone with a TAC either.
It's good to hear that someone still uses it. People on the forums said the good players will still use it. I guess there aren't as many "good" players as I thought. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
4480
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Posted - 2013.06.22 07:47:00 -
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Why don't people ask where are the burst ARs? or laser rifles, or mass drivers? |
BL4CK FRIAR
HDYLTA
Defiant Legacy
115
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Posted - 2013.06.22 07:48:00 -
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I'm still using the GLU when running logistics as always. I had always assumed that was their best use, let the corps big guns get the kdr with their hmg's and car's I'll take the wp' with my revives, resupplies and drops.... and every once and a while get a kill on a guy they missed or didnt seal the deal one as I come to pick up their fat asses. |
CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.06.22 07:52:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Why don't people ask where are the burst ARs? or laser rifles, or mass drivers?
True. I never see those either, with the exception of the MD. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
333
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Posted - 2013.06.22 08:09:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Why don't people ask where are the burst ARs? or laser rifles, or mass drivers?
Because those weapons are bugged/broken/up (MD have broken explosions, the burst is up and the laser rifle doesen't work with that stupid iron sight).
The Tac AR is now perfectly balanced, i use sometimes in the more open maps.
Its really good at medium-long range and decent on short range, but now it requires you to actually AIM. |
Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
21
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Posted - 2013.06.22 08:23:00 -
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As a logi I still use them, a perfect support weapon when you are behind your squad and have done your duties as a logi. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
576
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Posted - 2013.06.22 08:30:00 -
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Strangely I still find it almost as effective as I used to. I guess I was only ever using it in its intended role. |
Your Absolut End
Neanderthal Nation
103
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Posted - 2013.06.22 09:54:00 -
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Yeah funny how many people wrote they will stick to the TAC because it never was OP and blah blah.
I guess now that the weapon is actually balanced you see how many bad players used it.... |
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
63
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Posted - 2013.06.22 10:02:00 -
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Yeah, I definitely haven't seen one in a while..... plenty of GEK's and Duvolle's, and a fair number of ScR's though.....
I think those TAC guys all switched to the Flaylock and ScR.... (which I think are fine, as-is, BTW....) |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
525
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Posted - 2013.06.22 10:22:00 -
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Simple, the rate of fire tweak is broken so that now when you exceed it the gun stutters and wont fire at even its max rate of fire
Its a damn shame as well since the reduced hip fire accuracy and smaller magazine size were all that was needed |
PREDATORPANTS YW
Famous.OTF
Only The Famous
9
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Posted - 2013.06.22 10:26:00 -
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Still using it occasionally.  |
McFurious
TeamPlayers
EoN.
135
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Posted - 2013.06.22 10:31:00 -
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I still use it and it's still a good weapon. Just not the win button it used to be. Seems most of the players that used it for that reason have moved on. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.06.22 10:37:00 -
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Every time CCP tries to balance a weapon, they break the full thing. That is why the only AR's that are actually useful, are the fully automatic ones.
So it is 4 AR variations, and only 1 that you can actually use, and with the general AR hate in this community, soon is going to be 4 AR variations that NO ONE is going to use. Welcome to CCP. |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
219
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Posted - 2013.06.22 10:43:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:
It's good to hear that someone still uses it. People on the forums said the good players will still use it. I guess there aren't as many "good" players as I thought.
LOLZ ^^ this was my point before with AR vs HMG. because when you take something that is OP and use it against something thats UP, skill really isnt involved on the part of the OP guy....lol
in most FPS people look for the best instawin gun (or in fighting games the i win character/i win move). modern players tend to gravitate toward those. the concept of balance is lost to your modern gamer.
if you look at FPS like CoD, you see what i mean, every gun is between a 2-4 shot kill, pretty much across the map, so disparity between whats OP and UP is kinda blurred.
However, in DUST we have higher HP and a skill point based system. so, diferent people will have diferent proficiencies, damage mods, speed boosters, higher armor, etc, etc, for a player ne to this style of play anything that insta kills them while they need several bullets will make them feel that the weapon used was OP. when really its a complex problem replete with various factors from skills, to mods, to weapon type, to optimal range, to shield/armor efficacy.
this is too much for your average player. |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
219
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Posted - 2013.06.22 10:45:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Every time CCP tries to balance a weapon, they break the full thing. That is why the only AR's that are actually useful, are the fully automatic ones.
So it is 4 AR variations, and only 1 that you can actually use, and with the general AR hate in this community, soon is going to be 4 AR variations that NO ONE is going to use. Welcome to CCP.
welcome to the HMG. after chromosome it was a downward slope of pain. im still trying to recover my K/D between the HMGs pitifu damage, and the TACs that only recently got patched, my K/D is 2kills lower than it used to be.
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2013.06.22 10:50:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Every time CCP tries to balance a weapon, they break the full thing. That is why the only AR's that are actually useful, are the fully automatic ones.
So it is 4 AR variations, and only 1 that you can actually use, and with the general AR hate in this community, soon is going to be 4 AR variations that NO ONE is going to use. Welcome to CCP. welcome to the HMG. after chromosome it was a downward slope of pain. im still trying to recover my K/D between the HMGs pitifu damage, and the TACs that only recently got patched, my K/D is 2kills lower than it used to be.
Well that is my point...I said AR's because the OP was asking about them. But yes, is pretty much the same with every weapon, 4 variations and only one that you can actually use. In some cases is 4 variations and NONE that you can use. |
I VOTED FOR-KODOS
Absentee AFK Regiment
33
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Posted - 2013.06.22 11:07:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:Still here, and making kids cry. Unlike the fake frauds who were letting the once OP characteristics of the gun carry them to victory and a false sense of being "Elite" or so far as "The Best Dust Player of All Time"(Markof22/PDIGGY),I still use the gun for what's its good at and I and it do it well. Makes me lol, I haven't been killed by anyone with a TAC either.
Lol |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
465
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Posted - 2013.06.22 11:54:00 -
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Seen a few and the only ones that have killed me with it are the ones who use it as intended as a mid-long range (well mid-long range in the AR ranges.) rifle. People who now just sprint towards you then try and dance round hipfiring it tend not to do so well anymore which often leads to hatemail for the person who killed them. Ironically I killed a guy using a Duv TAR a few times in a match and he sent me hatemail for using the current FOTM whilst he sticks with his poor broken UP weapon that has been nerfed to oblivion. If he had tried not using it like a shotgun he may have had more luck, and my dirty secret the FOTM weapon I used that is so godly OP in this guys eyes.....
THE MD!
I know I suck using the MD everyone uses because its so OP I apologise. <-- what I replied saying and got accused of being a glitcher not sure what giltch or anything final message from the guy just said reported for glitching. |
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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
193
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Posted - 2013.06.22 12:20:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:Still here, and making kids cry. Unlike the fake frauds who were letting the once OP characteristics of the gun carry them to victory and a false sense of being "Elite" or so far as "The Best Dust Player of All Time"(Markof22/PDIGGY),I still use the gun for what's its good at and I and it do it well. Makes me lol, I haven't been killed by anyone with a TAC either.
Nobody likes Diggy, and there's a lot of people that don't like me from MAG. |
cr0ps
0uter.Heaven
League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.06.22 12:22:00 -
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still usin it buddy, at least when i still play this game.
someone said it already but people were abusing the OP characteristics of the old stats. i use the tac for range, and thats where it wins most often. it has twice the range of the other variants. |
Callidus Vanus
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
73
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Posted - 2013.06.22 12:44:00 -
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Burst AR best AR. |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
198
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Posted - 2013.06.22 12:46:00 -
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Still using mine, liking the Burst AR's also. |
Cass Barr
Red Star.
EoN.
351
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Posted - 2013.06.22 13:08:00 -
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I'll use a GLU on some maps, but as others said it's frustrating when half your trigger pulls don't do anything and you end up firing well below 400. |
Adelia Lafayette
DUST University
Ivy League
76
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Posted - 2013.06.22 13:35:00 -
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I still use it as well. I'd like it if the fire rate was raised to the scrambler pistols 500rpm but hey I'm still killing people. oh head shots help alot. |
Vethosis
Silver Talon Corporation
378
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Posted - 2013.06.22 13:35:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:I haven't been kill by one in a while. I kinda miss being instantly dropped by some guy spamming the TAC AR.
in ur face |
cr0ps
0uter.Heaven
League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.06.22 14:02:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:I'll use a GLU on some maps, but as others said it's frustrating when half your trigger pulls don't do anything and you end up firing well below 400.
well you can thank the people using rapid fire for that. of course they had to do something about that. if you dont freak out, use some control and time your shots properly it still shoots like a beast. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
550
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Posted - 2013.06.22 14:05:00 -
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In while readin through this thread there is only 1 single truly good player that is touting the tac AR in this thread. Most of the truly good players saw the outcry and knew what was going to happen so they moved on to use better weapons since the tact was doing to be mostly useless. Lets just say I have not been killed by a single tac since the nerf. |
Cass Barr
Red Star.
EoN.
351
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Posted - 2013.06.22 14:37:00 -
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cr0ps wrote:Cass Barr wrote:I'll use a GLU on some maps, but as others said it's frustrating when half your trigger pulls don't do anything and you end up firing well below 400. well you can thank the people using rapid fire for that. of course they had to do something about that. if you dont freak out, use some control and time your shots properly it still shoots like a beast.
Thing is I'm not, it's just low as hell. If I used it more to learn the cadence it wouldn't be as bad, but as it is I end up jamming it up when I'm not even trying to shoot quickly.
Doesn't really matter though, with it's poor CQB performance it's not a serious option anymore, anyway. |
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