"- making a battlefield that takes up multiple sections of a planet instead of only one."

As beautiful as this feature may be? Is this what cause so much lag, and limits the amount of players per match?

I would gladly give up being able to see anything besides the map we play on for better frame rate and more mercs per battle.

We don't use those parts of the map so why use up that memory?

I liked Skirmish 1.0 ,bring it back for PC.

I see that caldari heavy!

Great Dev Blog,
...it only talked about things in the past tense. ...
...but when the community is holding its breath waiting for Uprising 1.2, and discussing the game's future with ... shall we call them "strong" feelings?, a DevBlog that doesn't at least mention that is an automatic let down versus something revealing what we can expect to make things better.

Great Dev Blog, and enjoyed the read, but it only talked about things in the past tense.

I'm assuming from the lack of "Expect this great new map/feature in Uprising 1.2/1.3" nothing the Level Design team is currently working on is expected for 1.2 or 1.3, but is there any chance you could at least provide a little insight into things we can expect Soon (no Gäó)?

Something like "now that we've reworked the existing maps into our new socket system, creating new maps is easier and we expect to have something new for you all to play with, not in the next release, but soon after that" or "we hear you are crying for a new mode, well we have a surprise for you we don't want to ruin, but expect to see something this summer".

Let me rephrase, I really enjoyed the read, and appreciate the time and effort that went into it, but when the community is holding its breath waiting for Uprising 1.2, and discussing the game's future with ... shall we call them "strong" feelings?, a DevBlog that doesn't at least mention that is an automatic let down versus something revealing what we can expect to make things better.

On the other hand, it IS appreciated that CCP listens to feedback from the community (which really seems to be the point of this DevBlog more than anything else), but I doubt that most of the community will see it that way.

..when the community is holding its breath waiting for Uprising 1.2, and discussing the game's future with ... shall we call them "strong" feelings?

That first screen shot?.... is that a new ship or something????

I've read this entire Dev Blog, can someone please tell me what actual information it contains?

I don't know who you listened to in the closed beta, but it sure as hell wasn't the community. You probably heard the IRC no-lifers tell you how great your game was and how you need to turn the game from a fun Skirmish 1.0 - Rush style gamemode to "Operation Find Someone" and take away any resemblance of immediatecy this game ever had.

Bore514 is what you got when you listened to the IRC. Feel good? You didn't listen to the community, you took the easy way out and listened to a bunch of spreadsheet warriors and not the people that have lived and breathed console FPS.

Great Dev Blog, and enjoyed the read, but it only talked about things in the past tense.

I'm assuming from the lack of "Expect this great new map/feature in Uprising 1.2/1.3" nothing the Level Design team is currently working on is expected for 1.2 or 1.3, but is there any chance you could at least provide a little insight into things we can expect Soon (no Gäó)?
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Something like "now that we've reworked the existing maps into our new socket system, creating new maps is easier and we expect to have something new for you all to play with, not in the next release, but soon after that" or "we hear you are crying for a new mode, well we have a surprise for you we don't want to ruin, but expect to see something this summer".

Let me rephrase, I really enjoyed the read, and appreciate the time and effort that went into it, but when the community is holding its breath waiting for Uprising 1.2, and discussing the game's future with ... shall we call them "strong" feelings?, a DevBlog that doesn't at least mention that is an automatic let down versus something revealing what we can expect to make things better.

On the other hand, it IS appreciated that CCP listens to feedback from the community (which really seems to be the point of this DevBlog more than anything else), but I doubt that most of the community will see it that way.

Edit: BTW, CCP Frame, if you CAN tell us anything about whats in the pipe, PLEASE, the natives are restless, and I'd be happy to include it in my speculative Roadmap (and the fact that I'm trying to make one, instead of us getting from CCP is a whole other issue, but not one to go into here).

Skirmish 1.0 is my favorite game mode. I miss it already.

I've read this entire Dev Blog, can someone please tell me what actual information it contains?

Ironically, that Dust Devs listen to the players

Its removal dispite no feedback asking for it has been the deepest oldest stab ccp put through me. I'm losing faith, not even an idea of what kind of maps they want to make. What is this game suppose to be !!! Tell us, please. i Iried watching the trailers but they showed a game where you caN shoot down eve ships, fight in PvE matches, and what looks like deploy tanks from large spawn points inside buildings.

I don't understand what this game is aiming to be in a year... Does anyone know? I'm starting to get the feeling ccp doesn't...

I was really disappointed in the devblog. Out of all the potential that Dust could be, you dial it back so much because of feedback that you've ended up with mediocre maps.

- The size of the battlefield. (The current level layouts of the DUST 514 battlegrounds use small sections of vast planetary landscapes.) Why? These are battles to control planets. They should be large scaled. A planet is HUGE you should feel isolation if you decide to walk.

- Symmetry in games, Symmetry is BORING!!! It's hard for me to describe, but it feels a lot like chess. The games just become all too familiar. Where's the surprise element. The sabotage, recon, convoy or even flat out boring milk run missions.

- "We can position objectives, turrets, and supply depots across the battlefield."
Current turret positioning has been the worst feature I've seen in the game. They are there, but strategically useless. They are often placed in depressions, behind walls or just the wrong type for the battlefield. They are not an asset to any team.

It's an imposing weapon, it should make an enemy think twice. But right now they just make the maps look and feel cheap, thrown together. No one should squander a weapon like that.

There's no reason why this game shouldn't have a dozen game types and different scenarios. Sure some might not work, but it should be an evolving process. Currently the game feels like its de-volving into every other shooter out there. It's time to start pushing boundaries stop listening to feedback and make Dust unique.

If you listen to feedback why isn't the two gamemodes ambush , and skirmish 1.0 ?

Oh wait becuase you never listen to playerfeedback ok got it,hydev blog message received.

Dev post proves ccp took thr completey wrong message from skrm 1.0 Its become more the obv that somthing behind the iron certain is too play on this topic because the balance argument is a load of rubish

Ironically, that Dust Devs listen to the players

Took me a bit to read this, cause it looks a bit rough on the spelling, but that aside, I have to agree with you. CCP is claiming that they are listening to the community, but it seems that they are only taking a small sample size of the community and extrapolating that into the general opinion for everyone (which it isn't, as we can see in this thread by the amount of people wanting Skirmish 1.0 to come back).

If I were CCP, I would do this (with all of the knowledge they have about programming, this should be elementary): Make a poll after DevBlogs that will take into account several options (and only one vote per account), and have a part of the poll that describes legitimate reasons for courses of action. Not only will this be much more efficient at cutting out the "trolls", but this will also help your decision-making and priorities on matters that involve KEEPING your community here for the long run.

CCP, if you want to listen to your customers, please be fair and do it right (and no, your little private IRC in the past does NOT count).

-A.M.

To be fair, I do recall there being a few people asking for it to be removed, I just can't remember who they were so I could stab them.

You mean something like this?
http://www.planetside2.com/roadmap

Whoever wrote the section titled "Skirmish Symmetry" should be fired. No joke.

I was kind of hoping the blog would talk about how CCP are working on creating new game modes and possibly hint at things they are working on. This just describes what we have already and what was taken out/changed since early beta.

There is no inside information here. I'd love it if they said something like "we are thinking about game mode X. Here is how we think it might work. Please give feedback."

Didn't CCP say they will bring it back one day? Why doesn't the dev blog mention something like that? And who were the bums that gave such terrible feedback that resulted in its removal?

There were calls to balance it more, but no one was calling for its outright removal, as it was a pretty cool game mode. But instead of balancing it, CCP outright removed it.

so I was not the only one who was disappointed with this blog, noted.

I was a little disappointed But then I reread the blog and noted some important details throughout. Mainly the fact that it's when the maps load it's one giant map and we are contained within a battlefield.

One key part is that they note that for now the battlefield are separate. Which I take as they do have plans in place to open it up to travel between the battfields. But for now while it is possible any game mode they can use would spread the action out too thin which the current skirmish maps are already on the borderline of.

IMO the map sizes have a balanced size right now. What I see it taking is the addition of jets/jetties and possibly increased player count to accomplish this. They have already shown they can load the maps up, the are doing it currently. Basically this development post is a look back on what they have done and what is currently in place and a read between the lines look at what is planned for the future and reasons to why it's not here yet. It's far beyond ready for 1.2 So they are unable to go into detail But they can tease us for the next update. But I see it coming at soonest when they decide to release a new expansion. As this change along with new vehicles/weapons /suits /maps/outposts will change the game in such a drastic way as to make it seem new again.

to do that they would need a higher player base, no joke. I don't see player count going up.

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But basically what I'm trying to say is that dust is still very much alive. Its pulse might be slow and it was born premature and not quite fully developed But that's no reason to give up on it. With a little nourishment I can see dust exploding with life.

I agree, is there any dev. blog in the future tense coming soon?_ No pun intended.

I'm really not seeing numbers dropping though currently even though I know alot of long time players are leaving the game. More amd more people are coming in and enjoying the game But with the unfinished feel are leaving after a short time. Once new content is released and things are fixed any old and new players will come in. There's also a small fact of with the ps4 coming out there will still be a huge group of players still on ps3 for a couple years and most games released after that point for ps3 will probably be lackluster. That's when I think we will really start to see dust start to shine. And Polish itself up for the inevitable transition to ps4. Oh and sidenote when gaikai opens up it's ps3 service dust should bevopen to people that only own a ps4 as well. And considering ccp ran Eve on multiple versions of directx for awhile I think with Sony's permission which shouldn't be hard to get. The jump should be rather painless. Even though there will always be whiners and doomsayers. Most of whom are only looking at a small glimpse of information not the whole picture. Honestly many of doomsayers are causing exactly what they don't want to happen by saying that dust is dying turns many players away that would actually enjoy the game which contributes to the feelingbof death.

But basically what I'm trying to say is that dust is still very much alive. Its pulse might be slow and it was born premature and not quite fully developed But that's no reason to give up on it. With a little nourishment I can see dust exploding with life.

That is exactly why everyone came here to read it; to find out new information about upcoming game modes (or at least, what we thought was going to be an article about "said" topic).

I'm starting to think CCP is regaining their crown as the King of Misdirection. Is this CCP Shanghai's fault? Last time I checked, CCP was at least somewhat dependable, but maybe that was just EVE Online.

Before any thing else happens first we need an ambush mode that plays to 200 and not to 50 . Currently ambush is over too fast

CCP Tigris, CCP Stiffneck and CCP LogicLoop just published their brand new DUST 514 level design dev blog - Developing Game Mode Variations!

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