DUST Search - DUST514 vs Other FPS

Denny655 wrote:

Tharak Meuridiar wrote:

On a scale of 1-10, 5 being average

Smoothness/Controls = 2
Pace of Combat = 9
Match Variety = 3
Weapons = 7
Build Customization = 10

Overall = 8

The controls and aiming system are straight up bad. Everyone knows that.

The pace of combat is great. Unlike many FPS titles where a few bullets from an SMG mean death, there is plenty of time to react and fight back or run unless you get hit by something very nasty. Overall it's slightly slower than Halo PC (The original) and Reach, which IMO were the two best FPS ever in terms of combat and combat pacing.

Only two real match types. They were smart enough to make one of them a standard deathmatch, but they need to make adding a couple new modes a priority.

Even this early into the game the weapon line-up is much better than most FPS games. Some races (Everyone but Gallante) are getting seriously shafted on their racial weapons / vehicles but if you just ignore races it's still a great line up. The main downfall is that developers are catering to the demands of the AR toting masses and nerfing the holy hell out of anything that isn't a standard AR. If the mass driver, shotgun, etc. hadn't been nerfed so hard, or the AR wasn't so damn good in every scenario this category would be a 9.

10. This game has far better build customization than Planetside 2, Team Fortress 2, Gunz... or really any other FPS with customization I've ever tried. The only thing that could make it any better is weapon modifications. Like the ability to swap iron sights for a scope on a standard AR.

Overall, despite the weird controls the combat is the best I've seen in an FPS outside the Halo series. 8 in it's current form. Hopefully 10 after some more work.

Wow absolutly mind blown. You are sooo far from the truth im gagging right now.

I really think you must be related to someone devving the game and are playing some other build.

Its obvious you NEVER played any of the major shooters this gen on PS3 considering your comparing to halo, meaning you just recently bought a ps3.

I really hope ccp doesn't listen to these insane posts. But it looks like they are. Doomed.

BTW 31++5 is 6.1 at best so I have no idea where you got 8 out of those numbers on avg. Seriously do your own math.

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Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 20	Posted - 2013.06.24 21:50:00 - [61] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Dust has the Meta Game. PS2 has the gun play. It is really that simple. Not much else. I like how you described the two games one is more twisted toward FPS gamers looking to kill time and buff stats wheras the other is aimed at giving a storyline other than "one time I single handedly held off an entire zerg rush I'm so 1337"
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1749	Posted - 2013.06.24 21:56:00 - [62] - Quote Dust has good points that makes it my favorite FPS- Everything but the worst stuff costs money whenever you lose it- deaths matter VERY in-depth customization Tactical, but not insta-death when someone shoots you All expansions will always be free Calling in vehicles rather than fighting for respawns Non-generic weapons (flux nades, plasma cannons, nova knives, large blasters) Good-sized maps that are expanding as development progresses Only real downfall is that it suffers from issues that are common for betas (yes, I know it's not a beta)
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1749	Posted - 2013.06.24 21:59:00 - [63] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: Shadowswipe wrote: PS2 doesn't have the depth Dust currently has. In PS2 if you take the entire game world as your faction, you could go eat for 2 hours and the whole damn planet will be flipped to a different faction. It is a giant waste of time as nothing you do matters for longer than 30 minutes. You can't claim anything for yourself. Dust on the other hand, you can claim a planet and hold it for weeks and GET money from it. I could go on for hours about that, but that is the jest of it. Dust has more depth than Planetside 2. And when you say "you" you really mean a Corp but right now the only person that gets the ISK is the CEO who can then distribute as he/she pleases. Directors do have access to the ISK but 90% of the time the CEO has said you will be kicked from the Corp if the ISK is touched. Or there is a dummy Corp that holds all the ISK like a bank. Yep, the majority of corp wallets are actually just donations to the CEO. I'm glad BSotT isn't like that. Back when bojo was still on, he dedicated the corp wallet to allowing players to figure their fittings out, or do research.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 547	Posted - 2013.06.24 22:00:00 - [64] - Quote Colonel Killar wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Dust has the Meta Game. PS2 has the gun play. It is really that simple. Not much else. I like how you described the two games one is more twisted toward FPS gamers looking to kill time and buff stats wheras the other is aimed at giving a storyline other than "one time I single handedly held off an entire zerg rush I'm so 1337" CCP is focusing on the interaction with Dust 514 and EVE. PS2' devs want to perfect vehicle and player mechanics.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1749	Posted - 2013.06.24 22:01:00 - [65] - Quote Krythor Motrec wrote: Graphic Comparison https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/946487_10201384992297885_1919300407_n.jpg In other words, not a very big difference
sQuatch78 Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.24 22:22:00 - [66] - Quote Watched a stream of some guys playing Battlefield 3 the other day. I thought how similar Dust and BF really looks. I mean, BF looks more polished imo details of landscape or gear, more accessible buildings for CQC. Action and engagement seemed to happen much faster than in Dust. People also took way less damage to die in BF than in Dust. Which is to fast and hard for me personally. PS2 looked interesting regarding planetary district from what i could see. The detail of BF4 global map just looks insane. It is kind a fun though to see the many variations of how overlays are designed. Not sure like the new blood squirt on occasional hits, looks to gimmicky and doesn't quite fit into New Eden. My long winded point is, Dust will have a very hard time competing with other FPS like CoD, CS, BF, Planetside and Destiny's out there that focus a lot on looking and being the very best at their particular style of FPS. The trailer for the Butterfly effect is what brought me to Eve Online originally and now into Dust. The gameplay is what sets them apart from the big blop of MMOs out there. So how shiny my new toys might look is not quite my first priority when I'm thinking of stepping into New Eden, am I right?! Interdependent manufacture and economy, the morass of politics in Eve. I heard it's coming SOON ...apparently, but a tantalizing hint or roadmap would be greatly nice ;) I guess this turned now in a bit of a "get back to your roots" post. still love the game, good job. And switching suit and roles around during matches has been a lot of fun . Wish more people would be flexible to swap suits to situational need. Great point for Dust. another 2 ISK for the house.
KERINMalik Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.25 00:17:00 - [67] - Quote Planetside has many years of support with a progressive player. Destiny has a progressive shooter with other elements. Dust is not the only game to feature the progressive player anymore.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1756	Posted - 2013.06.25 00:57:00 - [68] - Quote KERINMalik wrote: Planetside has many years of support with a progressive player. Destiny has a progressive shooter with other elements. Dust is not the only game to feature the progressive player anymore. by the sound of it, PS2 is a grindfest. Never heard anything about destiny besides the name and that it's similar to dust
Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 69	Posted - 2013.06.25 01:02:00 - [69] - Quote KERINMalik wrote: Planetside has many years of support with a progressive player. Destiny has a progressive shooter with other elements. Dust is not the only game to feature the progressive player anymore. Then it needs to be the only game to feature prog rock. CCP, get on this.
Tharak Meuridiar The Empyrean Agency 94	Posted - 2013.06.25 01:41:00 - [70] - Quote On a scale of 1-10, 5 being average Smoothness/Controls = 2 Pace of Combat = 9 Match Variety = 3 Weapons = 7 Build Customization = 10 Overall = 8 The controls and aiming system are straight up bad. Everyone knows that. The pace of combat is great. Unlike many FPS titles where a few bullets from an SMG mean death, there is plenty of time to react and fight back or run unless you get hit by something very nasty. Overall it's slightly slower than Halo PC (The original) and Reach, which IMO were the two best FPS ever in terms of combat and combat pacing. Only two real match types. They were smart enough to make one of them a standard deathmatch, but they need to make adding a couple new modes a priority. Even this early into the game the weapon line-up is much better than most FPS games. Some races (Everyone but Gallante) are getting seriously shafted on their racial weapons / vehicles but if you just ignore races it's still a great line up. The main downfall is that developers are catering to the demands of the AR toting masses and nerfing the holy hell out of anything that isn't a standard AR. If the mass driver, shotgun, etc. hadn't been nerfed so hard, or the AR wasn't so damn good in every scenario this category would be a 9. 10. This game has far better build customization than Planetside 2, Team Fortress 2, Gunz... or really any other FPS with customization I've ever tried. The only thing that could make it any better is weapon modifications. Like the ability to swap iron sights for a scope on a standard AR. Overall, despite the weird controls the combat is the best I've seen in an FPS outside the Halo series. 8 in it's current form. Hopefully 10 after some more work.

Denny655 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.06.25 05:41:00 - [71] - Quote Tharak Meuridiar wrote: On a scale of 1-10, 5 being average Smoothness/Controls = 2 Pace of Combat = 9 Match Variety = 3 Weapons = 7 Build Customization = 10 Overall = 8 The controls and aiming system are straight up bad. Everyone knows that. The pace of combat is great. Unlike many FPS titles where a few bullets from an SMG mean death, there is plenty of time to react and fight back or run unless you get hit by something very nasty. Overall it's slightly slower than Halo PC (The original) and Reach, which IMO were the two best FPS ever in terms of combat and combat pacing. Only two real match types. They were smart enough to make one of them a standard deathmatch, but they need to make adding a couple new modes a priority. Even this early into the game the weapon line-up is much better than most FPS games. Some races (Everyone but Gallante) are getting seriously shafted on their racial weapons / vehicles but if you just ignore races it's still a great line up. The main downfall is that developers are catering to the demands of the AR toting masses and nerfing the holy hell out of anything that isn't a standard AR. If the mass driver, shotgun, etc. hadn't been nerfed so hard, or the AR wasn't so damn good in every scenario this category would be a 9. 10. This game has far better build customization than Planetside 2, Team Fortress 2, Gunz... or really any other FPS with customization I've ever tried. The only thing that could make it any better is weapon modifications. Like the ability to swap iron sights for a scope on a standard AR. Overall, despite the weird controls the combat is the best I've seen in an FPS outside the Halo series. 8 in it's current form. Hopefully 10 after some more work. Wow absolutly mind blown. You are sooo far from the truth im gagging right now. I really think you must be related to someone devving the game and are playing some other build. Its obvious you NEVER played any of the major shooters this gen on PS3 considering your comparing to halo, meaning you just recently bought a ps3. I really hope ccp doesn't listen to these insane posts. But it looks like they are. Doomed. BTW 31++5 is 6.1 at best so I have no idea where you got 8 out of those numbers on avg. Seriously do your own math.
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG Expert Intervention Caldari State 274	Posted - 2013.06.25 05:44:00 - [72] - Quote Going by the title alone, Dust is getting redlined.
dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 97	Posted - 2013.06.25 06:09:00 - [73] - Quote Denny655 wrote: Tharak Meuridiar wrote: On a scale of 1-10, 5 being average Smoothness/Controls = 2 Pace of Combat = 9 Match Variety = 3 Weapons = 7 Build Customization = 10 Overall = 8 The controls and aiming system are straight up bad. Everyone knows that. The pace of combat is great. Unlike many FPS titles where a few bullets from an SMG mean death, there is plenty of time to react and fight back or run unless you get hit by something very nasty. Overall it's slightly slower than Halo PC (The original) and Reach, which IMO were the two best FPS ever in terms of combat and combat pacing. Only two real match types. They were smart enough to make one of them a standard deathmatch, but they need to make adding a couple new modes a priority. Even this early into the game the weapon line-up is much better than most FPS games. Some races (Everyone but Gallante) are getting seriously shafted on their racial weapons / vehicles but if you just ignore races it's still a great line up. The main downfall is that developers are catering to the demands of the AR toting masses and nerfing the holy hell out of anything that isn't a standard AR. If the mass driver, shotgun, etc. hadn't been nerfed so hard, or the AR wasn't so damn good in every scenario this category would be a 9. 10. This game has far better build customization than Planetside 2, Team Fortress 2, Gunz... or really any other FPS with customization I've ever tried. The only thing that could make it any better is weapon modifications. Like the ability to swap iron sights for a scope on a standard AR. Overall, despite the weird controls the combat is the best I've seen in an FPS outside the Halo series. 8 in it's current form. Hopefully 10 after some more work. Wow absolutly mind blown. You are sooo far from the truth im gagging right now. I really think you must be related to someone devving the game and are playing some other build. Its obvious you NEVER played any of the major shooters this gen on PS3 considering your comparing to halo, meaning you just recently bought a ps3. I really hope ccp doesn't listen to these insane posts. But it looks like they are. Doomed. BTW 31++5 is 6.1 at best so I have no idea where you got 8 out of those numbers on avg. Seriously do your own math. I like the objective and methodical way you refuted his points with brilliant counter arguments of your own.
dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 97	Posted - 2013.06.25 06:10:00 - [74] - Quote Any post that has to begin with a disclaimer of 'Not trolling, but....' invariably is either a troll post or invites trolling. Just sayin'
James-5955 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 203	Posted - 2013.06.25 06:59:00 - [75] - Quote Dust is a mediocre shooter at best. This new build has been trash IMO, chromosome was much better. Recently got The Last of Us and have been playing it online the past 2 days and wow... it's so much better than Dust. I feel the core mechanics in this game are fail, I hate SP system and I feel it doesn't mesh well with how I feel shooters should be. The combat isn't anything special, the graphics are pretty bad, and the sounds are terrible. In The Last of Us the mechanics are awesome, amazing graphics, very good sound, the gameplay is more tactical and teamwork oriented than Dust, and it's more fun and satisfying to play. Can't be bothered with this game until it gets significantly better.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 365	Posted - 2013.06.25 09:09:00 - [76] - Quote Ech0 0ne wrote: Its not rocket science, just fix the game, duh Then dust can compete and the SP system is screwed up, and only attractive to eve players, and unattractive to new players. They've been trying for 14 months to fix it and still cant get core mechanics to work
Cariss777 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.06.26 01:09:00 - [77] - Quote It seems this game is exactly whay you see. A buggy laggy proto-stomping mess. The game has been devolving since release. Put a bullet in it already.
PhillyPride Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.06.26 01:57:00 - [78] - Quote I will be planetside when ps4 hits, but will play bf4 before that.
geddeylee Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.27 06:43:00 - [79] - Quote James-5955 wrote: Dust is a mediocre shooter at best. This new build has been trash IMO, chromosome was much better. Recently got The Last of Us and have been playing it online the past 2 days and wow... it's so much better than Dust. I feel the core mechanics in this game are fail, I hate SP system and I feel it doesn't mesh well with how I feel shooters should be. The combat isn't anything special, the graphics are pretty bad, and the sounds are terrible. In The Last of Us the mechanics are awesome, amazing graphics, very good sound, the gameplay is more tactical and teamwork oriented than Dust, and it's more fun and satisfying to play. Can't be bothered with this game until it gets significantly better. That is the conclusive majority at this time as there is only 2110 on right now. Guess everyone is playing other fun games.
rick888 jr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.27 08:00:00 - [80] - Quote Game is floundering currently, hope 1.2 will change that. Im getting tired of playing the same dudes in skirmish.



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