Yup guys, the title says it all. Im pretty sure eve players were recently given the opportunity to start training two characters at a time. Its important to note that they probably still cant play with both characters at the same time, but they can atleast have two accruing passive points. WHICH is huge on eve because many players pay for two accounts just so they can train two characters. Now I realize theres nothing stopping Dust players from just hoarding say..... 10 alt accounts as the game is free to play. But if that's true and players are going to do it anyway, I see no reason why CCP just doesn't give us the ability to passive gain our other characters slots too..... idk maybe that's just me.

Yup guys, the title says it all. Im pretty sure eve players were recently given the opportunity to start training two characters at a time. Its important to note that they probably still cant play with both characters at the same time, but they can atleast have two accruing passive points. WHICH is huge on eve because many players pay for two accounts just so they can train two characters. Now I realize theres nothing stopping Dust players from just hoarding say..... 10 alt accounts as the game is free to play. But if that's true and players are going to do it anyway, I see no reason why CCP just doesn't give us the ability to passive gain our other characters slots too..... idk maybe that's just me.

I just tried to dual train in EVE and like has already been posted - it ain't free. It costs the same as activating a second account.

So using EVE as an excuse to get dual training in Dust maybe doesn't make a lot of sense (unless the argument is EVE can dual train for the cost of a second account so why can't we - and our accounts are free so...)

It always did strike me as odd to not have passive SP on our other characters since we can just make extra
PSN accounts for free. As things stand now this is encouragement to create extra PSN accounts so our alts all get passive SP. The only thing I can think of is maybe they want us to make extra PSN accounts for some reason ... Or maybe sometime in the future our Playstation accounts will not be free (as in maybe we will need to goto plus accounts which has been hinted at for the PS4).

Money plain and simple.

You can split up AUR on 1 psn account. With an Alt you have to Buy seperate AUR.

You can train as many characters as you want in dust. Create alternate accounts, they are free FYI!

You can also put passive boosters on several chars to get passive SP gain.

sure, just as long as you pay 20 bucks a month (price of a plex) to activate it.

But that can't be true..... Why would I want to spend 20 dollars on each alt account??? I'd rather just put 60$ on my main so I can actually use some of the extra money on other things too, not just DUST. I mean lets be honest here.....

WHO HERE PUTS MONEY ON TO EACH OF THEIR ALT ACCOUNTS???

And then lets ask a similar question......

WHO HERE WOULD SPEND AUR ON TWO OR ALL THREE OF THEIR ALT CHARACTERS IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO BUY PASSIVE BOOSTERS FOR THEM???

...... it comes down to people don't want to spend money on non-main accounts. simple as that

I was under the impression that by activating passive boosters on a alt charachter on a same account works.

ie. Activate the Booster on alt char that doesen't have Active passive SP on and you get the 0.5 times or 50% of the passive SP gain that comes from the Booster. Since I seem to remember something of this sor being on the Booster descripion text.

I can't acces my PS3 right now to validate this, but this should be easy to do and confirm. Just switch the passive SP gain off of the char that has Passive booster and make note of SP ammount. And wait few minutes and log into that booster char and take a look.

i wouldnt spend a dime on my alts. But many people play their alt like a main. Some have even switched their alt into the main slot.

CCP will take every penny they can get. I had 4 toxin subbies on my mains PSN account. they wouldnt refund for AUR because it didnt make them any money. They offered to move one to a different character on that account. regardless i would have 1 toon with 2 blueprint subbies.

These are the guys who want you to grind for two weeks just to get a 5% bonus to something. All the while commercialing you every match in the warbarge to buy AURUM.

By all means go ahead and do that, but even if its true I still advocate the ability to have all three characters running passively anyway. I mean..... im still looking for a reason they wont just let us do that? Whats the difference between me making two Alt PSN accounts and just having all three of my Dust characters gaining SP? absolutely nothing except its a pain in the ass for the customer to make these alt accounts......

To spend cash on same PSN account or different PSN account doesen't, in my opinion, make any differece. It's money spent anyways.

YES but your more inclined to spend more money on your main then on an alt you never play......

Em... alt char on same account or alt char on different account.... what's the difference? You still need to restart game to switch chars and takes about same time to do it either way.

And yes people play on those alts and also put cash onto them.

I only read the first post. Sorry if someone has already said this, but you can only train two accounts on eve if you use a plex for it right? What I mean by that is you buy a plex using isk or real life money. Then instead of using the plex for more time on the account you can use it for enabling you to train 2 accounts at once. Correct me if I am wrong.

Em... alt char on same account or alt char on different account.... what's the difference? You still need to restart game to switch chars and takes about same time to do it either way.

And yes people play on those alts and also put cash onto them.

I was under the impression that by activating passive boosters on a alt charachter on a same account works.

ie. Activate the Booster on alt char that doesen't have Active passive SP on and you get the 0.5 times or 50% of the passive SP gain that occusr when the passive SP is on a char.. Since I seem to remember something of this sor being on the Booster descripion text.

I can't acces my PS3 right now to validate this, but this should be easy to do and confirm. Just switch the passive SP gain off of the char that has Passive booster and make note of SP ammount. And wait few minutes and log into that booster char and take a look of SP ammount and compare.

the difference is you get passive on a different account alt. thats the point of this whole thread. try reading something before you blab your hair brained opinions

I'm actually doing this right now.
Got passive SP Booster on my main but this orange passive sp thing is on my alt. Both of them are gaining passive SP on the same time.
Aurum is also available on my alts, I put aurum on my psn account, add aurum to dust and can use this aurum from all of my 3 chracters.

Yup guys, the title says it all. Im pretty sure eve players were recently given the opportunity to start training two characters at a time. Its important to note that they probably still cant play with both characters at the same time, but they can atleast have two accruing passive points. WHICH is huge on eve because many players pay for two accounts just so they can train two characters. Now I realize theres nothing stopping Dust players from just hoarding say..... 10 alt accounts as the game is free to play. But if that's true and players are going to do it anyway, I see no reason why CCP just doesn't give us the ability to passive gain our other characters slots too..... idk maybe that's just me.

YOU NEED ONLY READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH TO GET THE POINT MY LAZY READERS...... LAZY READERS MUST FLOURISH!!!!! THE REST IS JUST ADDITIONAL INPUT THAT ADDS TO THE ARGUMENT.

To clarify the last statement. "if players are going to 'cheat' and make several alt accounts anyway, CCP might as well just let us passive gain either two or all three of our alt characters" The reason for this is because theres no reason to make it harder to do something a majority of players are going to do anyway. AND if I remember correctly there was a time when you COULD passive gain all three characters if you wanted to.

PLUS its not like passive gaining is even that fast to begin with. It takes several months for a character to earn just a couple million in passive points, and from a business stand point it would be could for CCP to do this because if some of the hardcore players (like me) wanted to gain passive points faster I would put passive boosters on my alt characters, and therefore spend AUR faster, AND in turn have to buy more AUR more often..... Its really win win for everyone in my opinion.....

BTW..... YOU ONLY NEED TO READ THE TOP PARAGRAPH TO GET THE POINT (saving those who don't like to read from..... reading).

Ahhh ive read that you still have to put either A LOT of isk into the second character, OR more money into the second character. Still I think the argument is still valid. Sure you might have to pay more on eve, but passive gaining SP in eve is THE ONLY way to get SP. passive gaining in Dust nets you like 20k per day without a booster so yeah...... proportionally im pretty sure we make A LOT less. AND as stated above it seems like a good business model too.....

IF all 3 chars would be able to passively acumulate SP, then what?

Some persieved positives:

-Marston VC proposed that players would spend more cash to get AUR on that particular PSN account.
-Makes skilling up multiple chars more convinient and faster, without going into making multipple PSN accounts.

BUT

This does not eliminate the case of where players still make multipple accounts and create 3 alts per account and leave them to lay-low and gather passive SP.

What this entails is more prevalent situation in future, where there is even more of these alt accounts that have been dormant and possibly unused dust chars that have gathered SP passively. Now in due time players would use this to short-cut SP grinding and possibly do something illegal with those accounts.

In 1 years time there would be 3 chars in a alt account that have about 8,6mil SP per char. Thats quite good start on one specialization.

Why do people keep comparing this game to Eve? It's F2P. Alts don't serve the same purpose here as they do in Eve, as they shouldn't. Also, CCP's tactics should be completely different in making money off this game when compared to Eve.

Having said that, CCP, you really should allow us to train up more than 1 character at a time on one account since we're not paying for multiple accounts.

Also, I would like to remind you that your encouragement of players (don't be coy, you are encouraging) to have more than one account to play different playstyles in Eve is part of what ruined Eve for so many..

how much does the alts make??? Full boosted SP? or .5 of the normal SP?

This was a bit of a stupid maneuver on CCP's part.

They're just adding a nuisance hurdle. You can just get free emails (gmail), free PSN accounts (using those emails), and then more characters training passively at the same time.

Really, I'd like to know how to knock the guy out that's pissing stupid in CCP's coffee some days.

Because they pay and you don't. Just make another PSN.

Yup guys, the title says it all. Im pretty sure eve players were recently given the opportunity to start training two characters at a time. Its important to note that they probably still cant play with both characters at the same time, but they can atleast have two accruing passive points. WHICH is huge on eve because many players pay for two accounts just so they can train two characters. Now I realize theres nothing stopping Dust players from just hoarding say..... 10 alt accounts as the game is free to play. But if that's true and players are going to do it anyway, I see no reason why CCP just doesn't give us the ability to passive gain our other characters slots too..... idk maybe that's just me.

I can sum it up.

CCP is dumb.

They took away passive on alternative slots for some unknown and unspecified reason, but it had to do with booster sales. Forgetting that free alts are just a new PSN away.

This goes up there with "We didn't realize giving 5SP/s compared to a capped 1SP per WP would lead to people afking" dumb. Anectodally, people were spending more AUR on their alts when they were on the same account.

CCP is dumb.

If you want to activate training another character in EvE (having 2 train at the same time) you must use a PLEX to activate the second character.

If you are using Real world money to buy Plex from CCP or one of the Online retailers, it is more expensive than having two accounts.

The main use I see in EvE is training up new skills that are introduced with some expansions.

Maybe CCP will introduce some sort of Booster that allows passive training on your alts. The again, why would you bother, just make another PSN account.

sooooo...... your saying you'd like them to revert back to having all three characters available for passive training?

It would be a smart thing for CCP to do. More likely to spend money on alts if they are on the same PSN yet not gimped.