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Kitten Empress wrote:

IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:

Kitten Empress wrote:

RevoL Frog wrote:

How about instead of equiping plates you put on something else like shield regulators, and movement enhancement modifiers like kinetic catalyzers to make you as fast as a scout. Problem solved.

I'd argue that's what you're supposed to do with that suit anyway...

120 shields
210 armor
And you're suggesting to shield tank?

What you just described is a Caldari Assault, only they do it better, because their suit is made for shield tanking >_>

If you shield tank you could have up to 400 shields add that to your armor you'll have over 600 hp which is more than my cal logi setup. Just put some shield Regulators, kc's and cr's on your lows you'll be good. You Gallente guys just wanna stack damage mods and armor tank your suits.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752&find=unread
Everything you said is invalid.
Especially the HP part.

Let me give you a hint:
Caldari = 25hp/s

Gallente = 0hp/s

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Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 699	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:07:00 - [1] - Quote Heavies, if you ever feel alone and underpowered, come to me. I'm as slow as you guys from plates, but I have half the eHP sniff Lets hug, while CCP plans on how to nerf us even more. -Gallente Assault
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 699	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:08:00 - [2] - Quote Damn, I didn't think this through! I can't breath! Damn heavy hugs!
AION ETERNITY Wrath Of The Lamb 2	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:08:00 - [3] - Quote But your aiming and turning speed is unaffected. And please stop it, you're not cute.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 101	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:10:00 - [4] - Quote Wayt four me gais! - Gallente Logi
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 699	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:10:00 - [5] - Quote AION ETERNITY wrote: But your aiming and turning speed is unaffected. And please stop it, you're not cute. Fun fact, it is. CCP decided it would be a smart idea to code in a relation between turning speed and movement speed. I can't track Caldari assaults because of this, they strafe faster than my aim can move.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 699	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:17:00 - [6] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Wayt four me gais! - Gallente Logi Who what now? -Caldari Logi
RevoL Frog The Generals EoN. 31	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:32:00 - [7] - Quote How about instead of equiping plates you put on something else like shield regulators, and movement enhancement modifiers like kinetic catalyzers to make you as fast as a scout. Problem solved. I'd argue that's what you're supposed to do with that suit anyway...
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 699	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:35:00 - [8] - Quote RevoL Frog wrote: How about instead of equiping plates you put on something else like shield regulators, and movement enhancement modifiers like kinetic catalyzers to make you as fast as a scout. Problem solved. I'd argue that's what you're supposed to do with that suit anyway... 120 shields 210 armor And you're suggesting to shield tank?
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:38:00 - [9] - Quote Plates do not make you on equal terms with a Heavy sporting an HMG. Unless you are running an SMG or shotgun as a primary, most other weapon choices still have better range than the HMG, and in an FPS, range matters.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 699	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:45:00 - [10] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Plates do not make you on equal terms with a Heavy sporting an HMG. Unless you are running an SMG or shotgun as a primary, most other weapon choices still have better range than the HMG, and in an FPS, range matters. A heavy can use an AR, and then what? I have the same speed, same turning speed, half the eHP...

IRON PATRIOT 1 Ill Gotten Gains 8	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:46:00 - [11] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: RevoL Frog wrote: How about instead of equiping plates you put on something else like shield regulators, and movement enhancement modifiers like kinetic catalyzers to make you as fast as a scout. Problem solved. I'd argue that's what you're supposed to do with that suit anyway... 120 shields 210 armor And you're suggesting to shield tank? What you just described is a Caldari Assault, only they do it better, because their suit is made for shield tanking >_> If you shield tank you could have up to 400 shields add that to your armor you'll have over 600 hp which is more than my cal logi setup. Just put some shield Regulators, kc's and cr's on your lows you'll be good. You Gallente guys just wanna stack damage mods and armor tank your suits.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 700	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:48:00 - [12] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: RevoL Frog wrote: How about instead of equiping plates you put on something else like shield regulators, and movement enhancement modifiers like kinetic catalyzers to make you as fast as a scout. Problem solved. I'd argue that's what you're supposed to do with that suit anyway... 120 shields 210 armor And you're suggesting to shield tank? What you just described is a Caldari Assault, only they do it better, because their suit is made for shield tanking >_> If you shield tank you could have up to 400 shields add that to your armor you'll have over 600 hp which is more than my cal logi setup. Just put some shield Regulators, kc's and cr's on your lows you'll be good. You Gallente guys just wanna stack damage mods and armor tank your suits. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752&find=unread Everything you said is invalid. Especially the HP part. Let me give you a hint: Caldari = 25hp/s Gallente = 0hp/s
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:49:00 - [13] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Plates do not make you on equal terms with a Heavy sporting an HMG. Unless you are running an SMG or shotgun as a primary, most other weapon choices still have better range than the HMG, and in an FPS, range matters. A heavy can use an AR, and then what? I have the same speed, same turning speed, half the eHP... That is why I specifically stated the HMG Heavy.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 700	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:51:00 - [14] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Plates do not make you on equal terms with a Heavy sporting an HMG. Unless you are running an SMG or shotgun as a primary, most other weapon choices still have better range than the HMG, and in an FPS, range matters. A heavy can use an AR, and then what? I have the same speed, same turning speed, half the eHP... That is why I specifically stated the HMG Heavy. I don't see why you did that, but k.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:54:00 - [15] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Plates do not make you on equal terms with a Heavy sporting an HMG. Unless you are running an SMG or shotgun as a primary, most other weapon choices still have better range than the HMG, and in an FPS, range matters. A heavy can use an AR, and then what? I have the same speed, same turning speed, half the eHP... That is why I specifically stated the HMG Heavy. I don't see why you did that, but k. Why? Why not? Unless you are running an SMG or Shotgun as a primary, you will always have the advantage of being able to out range an HMG Heavy, thus not making you on equal terms with them.
IRON PATRIOT 1 Ill Gotten Gains 8	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:56:00 - [16] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: RevoL Frog wrote: How about instead of equiping plates you put on something else like shield regulators, and movement enhancement modifiers like kinetic catalyzers to make you as fast as a scout. Problem solved. I'd argue that's what you're supposed to do with that suit anyway... 120 shields 210 armor And you're suggesting to shield tank? What you just described is a Caldari Assault, only they do it better, because their suit is made for shield tanking >_> If you shield tank you could have up to 400 shields add that to your armor you'll have over 600 hp which is more than my cal logi setup. Just put some shield Regulators, kc's and cr's on your lows you'll be good. You Gallente guys just wanna stack damage mods and armor tank your suits. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752&find=unread Everything you said is invalid. Especially the HP part. Let me give you a hint: Caldari = 25hp/s Gallente = 0hp/s Did you read the article you linked here yourself? What does that have to with you putting three complex shield extenders on your suit with your dropsuit shield upgrades at lvl 5 to give you 397 shields?
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 225	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:56:00 - [17] - Quote Your slow plated assauly suit is my fast heavy. Think about that and the time i will have 4 complex plates on...
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 700	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:56:00 - [18] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Plates do not make you on equal terms with a Heavy sporting an HMG. Unless you are running an SMG or shotgun as a primary, most other weapon choices still have better range than the HMG, and in an FPS, range matters. A heavy can use an AR, and then what? I have the same speed, same turning speed, half the eHP... That is why I specifically stated the HMG Heavy. I don't see why you did that, but k. Why? Why not? Unless you are running an SMG or Shotgun as a primary, you will always have the advantage of being able to out range an HMG Heavy, thus not making you on equal terms with them. I do not see your logic. Both the heavy and the assault can trade range for DPS. If they want to have the same DPS/range, they can, and yet the Gallente assault is at a disadvantage, having half the eHP while having the same speed.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 700	Posted - 2013.06.19 23:57:00 - [19] - Quote martinofski wrote: Your slow plated assauly suit is my fast heavy. Think about that and the time i will have 4 complex plates on... And what is the HP difference? >_>
Nimerae LineZerkers 56	Posted - 2013.06.20 00:00:00 - [20] - Quote Cant't wait for the caldari heavy, 800+ shields :D

Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 702	Posted - 2013.06.20 00:02:00 - [21] - Quote Nimerae wrote: Cant't wait for the shield heavy, 800+ shields :D Can't wait for the Gallente heavy, 800+ stationary armor D:
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2013.06.20 00:11:00 - [22] - Quote @Kitten Empress Let me put it this way: -Run with an SMG or Shotgun and maybe you'll get a hug from my Heavy who is specced into the HMG I will not swap out for the AR, ScR, or LR in hopes of increasing my range to be similar to you. I am an HMG Heavy, and if you want to feel any sympathy from myself or the other HMG Heavies, get on our level and equip something with bad range and high bullet dispersion. Otherwise, you deserve no hugs.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 704	Posted - 2013.06.20 00:24:00 - [23] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: @Kitten Empress Let me put it this way: -Run with an SMG or Shotgun and maybe you'll get a hug from my Heavy who is specced into the HMG I will not swap out for the AR, ScR, or LR in hopes of increasing my range to be similar to you. I am an HMG Heavy, and if you want to feel any sympathy from myself or the other HMG Heavies, get on our level and equip something with bad range and high bullet dispersion. Otherwise, you deserve no hugs. Trust me, I did. I know that feel bro. Hugs?
PlanetSide2Bomber Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:09:00 - [24] - Quote Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year Insane Infantry Push Amazing Night Battle Night to Day Canyon Battle Intense Field Battle Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Factions Explained
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2013	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:24:00 - [25] - Quote PlanetSide2Bomber wrote: Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year Insane Infantry Push Amazing Night Battle Night to Day Canyon Battle Intense Field Battle Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Factions Explained http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2nWNZfKFSI
DildoMcnutz The Tickle Monsters 12	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:41:00 - [26] - Quote There is nothing wrong with the gallente suit IMO, sure your plate options suck but you shouldnt be stacking complex plates anyway. Here is what my high and low slot load outs on the CK.0 and GK.0 would be (keep in mind i dont like shield rechargers) CK.0 = 2 complex extenders and 2 complex damage mods, Basic plate complex repper and cpu upgrade. Shield hp = 408 taking 16 seconds to recharge Armour hp = 215 taking 43 seconds to recharge total hp = 623 with 59 seconds to regain total health assuming you getting raped. GK.0 = 1 complex extender and 2 complex damage mods, basic plate, 2 complex reppers and cpu upgrade shiled hp = 222 taking 11 seconds to recharge Armour hp = 327 taking 27 seconds to recharge total hp = 549 taking 38 seconds to regain total health assuming you get raped. now there is a difference of 74 hp but the gallente suit will recover total hp much faster. Also i think that given the caldari suit will be using up more pg from extenders than the gallente it probably wont fit a complex repper on there ( i like running good nades and nanohives so there may not be enough pg left to put on a good repper) slowing total hp regen further. The gallente suit is a great suit but people need to stop stacking heavy ass plates and complaining they run slow as hell when it really is a silly thing to do in the first place. Just my 2 cents slot load outs can be different so feel free to call me a noob or whatever
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 333	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:45:00 - [27] - Quote picking low slot based suits then complaining about ehp or speed when you know what armor plates are is just silly. If you wanted ehp without sacrificing speed, you shouldve picked a high slot suit. If you wanted to stack sprint or pasisve scanning then you should have gone with gallante. It would be like speccing into shotty and complaining about range. Or HMG and complaining about range. Oh wait...the latter is actually happening in this thread. Hint if every suit is capabale of doing the same thing as every other suit, they become meaningless. They are different for a reason. You want speed and ehp, go anything but gallante.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 148	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:49:00 - [28] - Quote Just wait for the ferroscale armor plates, less HP than the current plates but no speed/movement penalty.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 709	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:56:00 - [29] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: picking low slot based suits then complaining about ehp or speed when you know what armor plates are is just silly. If you wanted ehp without sacrificing speed, you shouldve picked a high slot suit. If you wanted to stack sprint or pasisve scanning then you should have gone with gallante. It would be like speccing into shotty and complaining about range. Or HMG and complaining about range. Oh wait...the latter is actually happening in this thread. Hint if every suit is capabale of doing the same thing as every other suit, they become meaningless. They are different for a reason. You want speed and ehp, go anything but gallante. Sigh. You have no idea. I would be fine to have a speed penalty if there was a reason to it. But there isn't. Absolutely no reason. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752&find=unread
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 709	Posted - 2013.06.20 04:05:00 - [30] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Just wait for the ferroscale armor plates, less HP than the current plates but no speed/movement penalty. Less HP than shield extenders. Which is stupid when you consider that armor needs repairers, while shield can stack extenders all day long.



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