Dust 514 only attracts three types of people: super hardcore EVE maniacs (5% of the players), no life neckbeards that suck at life and want their choices to matter in a video game and will never be satisfied because video games are inherently pointless (15%), and bored ps3 ppl who think its funny to run people over (80%).

Do you have something from CCP about those stats or are you here making lies about nothing?

And who the f**k are you calling other people no life neckbeards? Are you one of those angry little nerds Draco?

Your numbers are all wrong man, first you need to lump the eve maniacs and the neckbeards together since they are the same demographic then you need to swap the percentages of the two groups you have left

Dust 514 only attracts three types of people: super hardcore EVE maniacs (5% of the players), no life neckbeards that suck at life and want their choices to matter in a video game and will never be satisfied because video games are inherently pointless (15%), and bored ps3 ppl who think its funny to run people over (80%).

Removing lavs or nerfing them (keep in mind that when CCP nerfs something they absolutely obliterate it, just look at derpships) will drive away about 80% of the players. whatever hate i get from the forum junkies is completely invalidated by the fact that the 80% of the player base i'm trying to save you from losing doesn't even know this game has a forum.

The shear number of murder taxi's using the free starter is a new thing and if this LAV gets nerfed people will adjust pretty quickly. The vehicle specialists already have access to decently fit LLAV and would probably remain mostly unaffected if they wish to continue running people over.

For the rest they will either choose to fight or AFK behind the redline etc. if you are using the free murder taxi then it suggests that you are still holding out hope and that you are still willing to play so I doubt a nerf to taxi's will have a dramatic impact on the player count, at least not at the level you are suggesting.

If you do have access to the real stats then please go ahead and share them but please reference the source material.

I wish you were right, but I am rarely seeing more than 1-2 LAVs per match that spends all their time running people over. That give you a very low percentage of players enjoying running people over in LAVs.

My observations comes from having made an AV dropsuit specifically for LAV hunting, and I am disappointed in the low numbers of LAVs that are in each match. And many stops spawning a new LAV after I or others have destroyed their vehicle

This idea that eve players are either beard stroking super strategists or frothing sociopaths is wrong. Most eve players, about 70% of them are scared of thier own shadow and are terrified to be involved in any kind of combat other than PvE. The remaining 27% are frothing hot heads who are angry because they suck of CoD. 2% of eve players are moderates who will try anything, they just casually play and have lifes. The Last 1% are the stroky neck beard types of which you speak.

Its wierd because in many ways your posts echo that of the so called "pvper" in eve.

Just let LAVs continue to run people over but apply simple physics.

Newton's 3rd law of motion
When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to that of the first body.

If I have 1000 HP and an LAV runs me over then the LAV should take 1000 damage. People will still be able to murder taxi but they will have to be cautious and spec their LAV to regen quickly so that now they can't just use a free item that can kill any infantry without any real consequence. They will still be able to kill anyone but killing a heavy will do some serious damage to the LAV, while killing a scout will be no big deal.

Just let LAVs continue to run people over but apply simple physics.

Newton's 3rd law of motion
When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to that of the first body.

If I have 1000 HP and an LAV runs me over the LAV should take 1000 damage. People will still be able to murder taxi but they will have to be cautious and spec their LAV to regen quickly so that now they can't just use a free item that can kill any infantry without any real consequence. They will still be able to kill anyone but killing a heavy will do some serious damage to the LAV, while killing a scout will be no big deal.

i've been spending most of my time trolling the academy as the rampant pub stomping in public matches makes me rage at a rather unhealthy level, so my perception of LAV presence may be a little exaggerated.

i've been spending most of my time trolling the academy as the rampant pub stomping in public matches makes me rage at a rather unhealthy level, so my perception of LAV presence may be a little exaggerated.

that, yeah, no. thats just stupid. that is not at all how newtons 3rd law would work on a car hitting a person. when a HUMAN is hit by a CAR, no matter what amount of body armor they are wearing, it will not do enough damage to disable the car, wbich is basically what hou're suggesting. this already happens with head on crashes (although there may be some sort of 1 bit kill thing being applied to it) and tanks. i think that ic what you're suggesting is implemented, the damage taken from collisions should be 11% of the hp of the person it hits. there should also be a skill that remkves impact damage.

I agree that the rampant pub stomping which luckily is not consistent can be annoying when not being squadded, seeing stacked squads on the opposing team while you see 16 randoms on your own team.

BUT, to troll the academy does not make you a better player, wrong solution, it just makes you equal to the pub stomping squads if not worse. Use your LAV driving skills to driver over the pub stomping proto players instead, and they might actually change into cheaper dropsuits making the match satisfactory for more players, maybe except for the proto players.

OP is an idiot

Lets just pretend that first paragraph didn't exist, now shall we? the key information to take away from it is that about 80% of the player base is bored CoD players who think roarkills are funny

Removing lavs or nerfing them (keep in mind that when CCP nerfs something they absolutely obliterate it, just look at derpships) will drive away about 80% of the players. whatever hate i get from the forum junkies is completely invalidated by the fact that the 80% of the player base i'm trying to save you from losing doesn't even know this game has a forum.

the thing is, its not possible to actually improve your playstyle, because even though ina any other game i can stay ontarget in almost any situation, i STILL get outgunned by protos because the wim is too jumpy to actually keep on target.

Have you tried to use keyboard and mouse? Not sure if I understand your problem correct, but I am having similar problems unless I use a mouse for aiming or I am unable to keep the crosshair on the target while moving around. I believe this is an advantage to the mouse but could also be that I need more time playing with the ds3 only.
And ending up on another server than the server in your own region also puts you in a disadvantage going toe to toe with an equally skilled player.

That's it? Really? no super elaborate post on why everything i said is wrong? You can do better than that,right? at least say stupid f*cking prick or something. You're boring.

i have, but they were stupid enough to try and nerf the mouse and keyboard by adding deceleration. i think THAT is what the issue with aiming is. It affects ds3 as well.

[quote=Draco Dustflier][quote=Acturus Galaxy][quote=Draco Dustflier]
The nerf to mouse controls was needed to have equal tracking speeds between the two control schemes.

Do you realize that you can use DualShock controllers in the PC too. ? In fact some people uses DS very effectively in games like BF3, or even CS in the PC. Of course, you never hear anyone asking for a DualShock Controller nerf in the PC, i wonder why.

http://www.morecomputers.com/productlist.aspx?cat=gaming&subcat=game+controllers

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gaming-mouse/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=gaming%20mouse&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Agaming%20mouse

We are no humans, we are super-clones with shields and kick ass armor plates. That should be the same as hitting a street light at 60mph.

... while killing a scout will be no big deal.

You cannot compare this with playing games on a PC where mouse and keyboard are used by everyone and the DS is optional. It is the opposite on PS3 where the DS3 is available for everyone and keyboard/mouse are optional for those that prefer this scheme.

You can compare it with the PS3 MOVE being the most precise item to use with quicker grenade throws etc. an advantage compared to they k/m users. I am sure most k/m uses would complain loudly but it is alight that k/m control scheme has the advantage.

EDIT: Sorry, I misread your message. Aligning the control methods was needed due to PC and also to balance the classes, or as I mentioned above the heavy had not problems tracking the scout which was supposed to be an advantage in favor of the scout. I cannot say anything about BF3 on PC and the difference between DS and K/M, never played the game.

Lets just pretend that first paragraph didn't exist, now shall we? the key information to take away from it is that about 80% of the player base is bored CoD players who think roarkills are funny

Removing lavs or nerfing them (keep in mind that when CCP nerfs something they absolutely obliterate it, just look at derpships) will drive away about 80% of the players. whatever hate i get from the forum junkies is completely invalidated by the fact that the 80% of the player base i'm trying to save you from losing doesn't even know this game has a forum.

We should nerf the players with a good connection, is not fair to play against people with a better latency.

Also... there is people with better TV or monitors, we should nerf this. People with HDMI has an advantage over AV, nerf this too.

If u feel that ds3 is worst, buy a keyboard and a mouse, they are cheap.

I only use an old, cheap and normal PC mouse, which is good enough for me. It is not against the rules to use a gaming mouse, they have merely changed the code in Uprising to decrease the advantage you got with the gaming mouse. You can allways argue that you can buy SP boosters to gain an advantage, why is it not accepted to buy a gaming mouse for the provided advantage.
This is probably a major difference on the mindsets between PS3 players and PC players. PS3 players sees everyone using the exact same setup making everyone play on equal terms with the only difference in actual player skills. On PC every means are allowed to gain the upper hand. Personally I prefer the PS3 approach.

Lets just pretend that first paragraph didn't exist, now shall we? the key information to take away from it is that about 80% of the player base is bored CoD players who think roarkills are funny

Removing lavs or nerfing them (keep in mind that when CCP nerfs something they absolutely obliterate it, just look at derpships) will drive away about 80% of the players. whatever hate i get from the forum junkies is completely invalidated by the fact that the 80% of the player base i'm trying to save you from losing doesn't even know this game has a forum.

Wow...... I had no clue 10 out of 16 people in every match ive been in today drove around "roarkilling" people. Dude, LAV's need a nerf and I know the PERFECT solution. Do it like in chromosome where if an LAV hit someone it came to a dead stop. That will give me more then enough time to avenge my fallen comrade. That's all.