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Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:52:00 -
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I always feel a little bad when I roadkill heavies.
I once killed some guy named mud kipz several times in a match. In that same match some dude got stuck in my grill. It was a horrifying experience altogether.
Some dude once tried chasing me with his knives. I reversed into his face. |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
144
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:03:00 -
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You should feel bed...Or at the very least understand that your 18-0 score was not produced through skill or tactful gameplay and quick thinking. |
Gruul Upgrayedd
D3LTA ACADEMY
7
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:07:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:You should feel bed...Or at the very least understand that your 18-0 score was not produced through skill or tactful gameplay and quick thinking. Well actually if you got 18-0 just by driving then congrats bro. **** the naysayers |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
22
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:10:00 -
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I understand that my 18-0 score was not produced through tactful gameplay. Quick thinking, on the other hand.... |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
133
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:11:00 -
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All its doing is giving CCP more reasons to nerf LAVs. |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
145
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:12:00 -
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Gruul Upgrayedd wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:You should feel bed...Or at the very least understand that your 18-0 score was not produced through skill or tactful gameplay and quick thinking. Well actually if you got 18-0 just by driving then congrats bro. **** the naysayers
Spoken like a truly **** player who will always exploit broken game mechanic's to pad their K/D.
I started an Alt just to play with LLAVs, I've gone 26-0 and at 15k WP He has a 12.97 K/D and it didn't take a damn bit of skill to get there. |
Xender17
Intrepidus XI Omega Commission
170
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:14:00 -
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I think they need to make Logistics LAV's slower. Mainly because they are meant to heal vehicles. |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
22
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:14:00 -
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I'll occasionally run into blueberry starter LAVs when they begin to annoy me, so that they pop.
I once called in my standard LLAV while I stood alongside some other dude. His dropship then arrived. He seemed to wait for me to jump into a gunner seat. When his patience wore off he finally took off, crashing into my incoming LLAV, popping his ship instantly. |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
22
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:16:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:All its doing is giving CCP more reasons to nerf LAVs. They need to be adjusted. In all honesty I want to use the LLAVs for what they're intended: support. They need quite a few changes first. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
394
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:25:00 -
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Silas Swakhammer wrote:I always feel a little bad when I roadkill heavies.
Don't.
it is their own damn fault for being in the open. They either need to learn how to properly play a heavy or they need to die.
note: yes on the rare occasion i do get hit by an LAV while playing on my alt heavy. Every time it is because i did somehting stupid to be out in the open and exposed to an LAV. Heavies should know better with their shorter range anyway. If it wasn't an LAV that gets em it would have been a AR or a TAC or a scrambler or sniper that gets em anyway. |
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hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:56:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:All its doing is giving CCP more reasons to nerf LAVs.
lavs are fine, bring some ******* av to the field every time the other team starts spamming lavs I bring out my STD swarm fit and destroy them llav or not, tho I will say ccp needs to buff the WP for a llav kill 40wp for something that has a better tank then most tanks is bs. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1649
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Posted - 2013.06.18 00:03:00 -
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hgghyujh wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:All its doing is giving CCP more reasons to nerf LAVs. lavs are fine, bring some ******* av to the field every time the other team starts spamming lavs I bring out my STD swarm fit and destroy them llav or not, tho I will say ccp needs to buff the WP for a llav kill 40wp for something that has a better tank then most tanks is bs. This
As a part-time AVer (I do ALL THE THINGS!), LAVs are one of my main sources of WP gain, aside from repairing people and blowing up installations for an easy 100 wp |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
133
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Posted - 2013.06.18 01:15:00 -
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hgghyujh wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:All its doing is giving CCP more reasons to nerf LAVs. lavs are fine, bring some ******* av to the field every time the other team starts spamming lavs I bring out my STD swarm fit and destroy them llav or not, tho I will say ccp needs to buff the WP for a llav kill 40wp for something that has a better tank then most tanks is bs.
I use packed AV nades on all my dropsuits and bait LAVs for free kills, I'm just stating whats going to happen. For those who didn't play in closed beta, militia dropships were used to squish much like LAVs are being abused now. So CCP made dropships difficult to fly and increased their collision damage. All this LAV abuse WILL lead to a change in their mechanics. |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2013.06.18 01:49:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:hgghyujh wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:All its doing is giving CCP more reasons to nerf LAVs. lavs are fine, bring some ******* av to the field every time the other team starts spamming lavs I bring out my STD swarm fit and destroy them llav or not, tho I will say ccp needs to buff the WP for a llav kill 40wp for something that has a better tank then most tanks is bs. I use packed AV nades on all my dropsuits and bait LAVs for free kills, I'm just stating whats going to happen. For those who didn't play in closed beta, militia dropships were used to squish much like LAVs are being abused now. So CCP made dropships difficult to fly and increased their collision damage. All this LAV abuse WILL lead to a change in their mechanics.
You are right but I really hope not, AV has been boring and pointless thanks to all vehicles being nerfed to crap, now for the first time since those "abusable" lavs and DSs its fun and worth while to play dedicated AV. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
109
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Posted - 2013.06.18 02:02:00 -
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As a heavy who gets road-killed now and then I don't mind it all. Then again I'm playing Death Race 514 and my I-FG still takes out regular LAVs nicely.
stlcarlos989 wrote:All its doing is giving CCP more reasons to nerf LAVs. Or Buff AV.
Regardless LLAVs are the new easy mode and taking CCPs historic hate of them into context the entire situation is beyond hilarious. Bad as this may be it reeks of karma. |
Felix Faraday
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2013.06.18 02:04:00 -
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Heavies make such a satisfying *pop* when they get smashed into. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
529
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Posted - 2013.06.18 04:38:00 -
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Once upon a time, tanks ruled the battlefield.
Then they got nerfed.
Then the assaulters said "adapt or die"
So CCP gave us the LLAV
And we adapted.
Now LLAVs rule the battlefield
And the assaulters QQ
Isn't it funny? |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
529
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Posted - 2013.06.18 04:40:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:As a heavy who gets road-killed now and then I don't mind it all. Then again I'm playing Death Race 514 and my I-FG still takes out regular LAVs nicely. stlcarlos989 wrote:All its doing is giving CCP more reasons to nerf LAVs. Or Buff AV. Regardless LLAVs are the new easy mode and taking CCPs historic hate of them into context the entire situation is beyond hilarious. Bad as this may be it reeks of karma.
You must be joking. You have proto AV and we have STD tanks. AV already got a buff. Tanks need a buff. LLAVs should be powerful, or theyre not worth skilling into.
Why don't you vehicle haters HTFU and adapt or die like the tankers did when you nerfed us. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
109
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Posted - 2013.06.18 05:25:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:As a heavy who gets road-killed now and then I don't mind it all. Then again I'm playing Death Race 514 and my I-FG still takes out regular LAVs nicely. stlcarlos989 wrote:All its doing is giving CCP more reasons to nerf LAVs. Or Buff AV. Regardless LLAVs are the new easy mode and taking CCPs historic hate of them into context the entire situation is beyond hilarious. Bad as this may be it reeks of karma. You must be joking. You have proto AV and we have STD tanks. AV already got a buff. Tanks need a buff. LLAVs should be powerful, or theyre not worth skilling into. Why don't you vehicle haters HTFU and adapt or die like the tankers did when you nerfed us. You are correct. I am joking about AV Buffing. Almost went into a spiel about how an AV Buff was going to result in a Heavy Vehicles Buff followed by another Light Vehicles Buff but the right wording was elusive.
On a serous note Charlotte you may want to ease up on that AV Hate. My Forge Guns are getting an unspecified nerf and I'm crossing my fingers this isn't the final nail in making Heavy useless for anything other than piloting LAVs/LLAVs. In the past I've been supportive of HAVs getting DPS back. The whole buffing blasters while nerfing missiles was odd enough, then the over-all lowering of turret DPS came a bit strange. To be honest now that FGs are getting nerfed again my old stance of supporting vehicle buffs doesn't seem very smart. Vehicles have had nerfs and buffs while the FG all throughout beta only gotten nerfs. So no, you don't need anymore buffs.
PS: Adapt or Die and HTFU are clich+¬ and anyone capable critical thinking knows not to take another person who uses them seriously. |
Dengru
Red Star. EoN.
22
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Posted - 2013.06.18 05:29:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Once upon a time, tanks ruled the battlefield.
Then they got nerfed.
Then the assaulters said "adapt or die"
So CCP gave us the LLAV
And we adapted.
Now LLAVs rule the battlefield
And the assaulters QQ
Isn't it funny?
Yes, before uprising, I remember... Manus peak, ambush...three tanks.
Toward the end chromosome, you and others were talking about how you were gonna be these terrifying Gods of the mountains. Virgins would be sent as sacrifices to your railguns.
I was really frightened..
But for numerous reasons, it didn't quite turn out that way and you guys just run people over all day in llavs Not quite as fearsome as mountain gods...
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
138
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Posted - 2013.06.18 09:32:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:As a heavy who gets road-killed now and then I don't mind it all. Then again I'm playing Death Race 514 and my I-FG still takes out regular LAVs nicely. stlcarlos989 wrote:All its doing is giving CCP more reasons to nerf LAVs. Or Buff AV. Regardless LLAVs are the new easy mode and taking CCPs historic hate of them into context the entire situation is beyond hilarious. Bad as this may be it reeks of karma. You must be joking. You have proto AV and we have STD tanks. AV already got a buff. Tanks need a buff. LLAVs should be powerful, or theyre not worth skilling into. Why don't you vehicle haters HTFU and adapt or die like the tankers did when you nerfed us.
Look at it like this, are LAVs being used in the manner CCP intended? If CCP wants them to be used primarily for roadkill then no change will occur, If not then they will be adjusted to meet their intended role. |
Gruul Upgrayedd
D3LTA ACADEMY
9
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Posted - 2013.06.18 17:08:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Gruul Upgrayedd wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:You should feel bed...Or at the very least understand that your 18-0 score was not produced through skill or tactful gameplay and quick thinking. Well actually if you got 18-0 just by driving then congrats bro. **** the naysayers Spoken like a truly **** player who will always exploit broken game mechanic's to pad their K/D. I started an Alt just to play with LLAVs, I've gone 26-0 and at 15k WP He has a 12.97 K/D and it didn't take a damn bit of skill to get there. Yeah I'm not that great at shooting so running over whiney little ***** like you makes me smile ;) Damn us for using the tools provided to wage war. Go play cod with your other butt buddies an gtfo. News flash vehicles are part of the game and people are goi g to use them. If they have a high k/d ifs probably because they have skill driving you cynical crybaby |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3882
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Posted - 2013.06.18 17:10:00 -
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My heavy can survive falling from the MCC without inertia dampeners, but if I get bumped at 20mph?
OMGZ MAH INSYDZ!!! |
Gruul Upgrayedd
D3LTA ACADEMY
9
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Posted - 2013.06.18 17:14:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:My heavy can survive falling from the MCC without inertia dampeners, but if I get bumped at 20mph?
OMGZ MAH INSYDZ!!! Hey I have been skydiving 3 times and I'm fine. If I got hit by a car I would probably die. Maybe ccp should nerf me |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3882
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Posted - 2013.06.18 17:15:00 -
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Gruul Upgrayedd wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:My heavy can survive falling from the MCC without inertia dampeners, but if I get bumped at 20mph?
OMGZ MAH INSYDZ!!! Hey I have been skydiving 3 times and I'm fine. If I got hit by a car I would probably die. Maybe ccp should nerd me You've gone sky diving 3 times without your chute and you're still here?
Damn bro, buy some lottery tickets.
And my IRL friend has been hit at 40 and 50mph, and he's never been better >_< |
Gruul Upgrayedd
D3LTA ACADEMY
9
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Posted - 2013.06.18 19:15:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Gruul Upgrayedd wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:My heavy can survive falling from the MCC without inertia dampeners, but if I get bumped at 20mph?
OMGZ MAH INSYDZ!!! Hey I have been skydiving 3 times and I'm fine. If I got hit by a car I would probably die. Maybe ccp should nerd me You've gone sky diving 3 times without your chute and you're still here? Damn bro, buy some lottery tickets. And my IRL friend has been hit at 40 and 50mph, and he's never been better >_< Well I suppose its hard to hear the sarcasm. Sounds like yur bro is way OP he should be nerfed. |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
25
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Posted - 2013.06.18 20:13:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:My heavy can survive falling from the MCC without inertia dampeners, but if I get bumped at 20mph?
OMGZ MAH INSYDZ!!! An inertial dampener module would make murder taxis more... cautious. |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2013.06.18 20:24:00 -
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Are people seriously again arguing that LAV's shouldn't be nerfed when it comes to collision damage? I've never been in a LAV that has more kills by the gunner than the driver. As someone said in a previous thread
"the bumper shouldn't get more kills than the gunner".
AV's are pretty good, but there's no way you can avoid being hit by those logistics LAV's. They can tank a decent amount of damage even almost as much as a tank. You can't jump over a LAV. You can't sidestep it. It only has to poke you for you to die. It shouldn't be this way. |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
25
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Posted - 2013.06.18 20:44:00 -
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Benari Kalidima wrote:Are people seriously again arguing that LAV's shouldn't be nerfed when it comes to collision damage?
The only thing of the LLAVs that really need nerfing are their speed.
I'll repost my ideas:
Scout LAVs - Decrease size slightly - Increase acceleration slightly - Increase agility slightly to moderately - Dampen profile greatly - Place an on-board scanner that pulses every 1 sec. for 5 sec., revealing all enemy units within range and keeping them revealed to friendly team for approx. 30s. Cooldown approx. 60s. Warpoints awarded for this activity.
Logi LAVs - Possibly decrease HP slightly - Decrease acceleration moderately - Shield driver from direct fire - Warpoints awarded for shield/armor rep - Easier targeting mechanic for shield/armor rep - Allow ammo resupply for nearby friendly infantry. Warpoints, maybe?
Cause minor damage to LAVs when hitting enemy infantry. Stabilize LAV center-of-gravity. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
140
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:07:00 -
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Benari Kalidima wrote:Are people seriously again arguing that LAV's shouldn't be nerfed when it comes to collision damage? I've never been in a LAV that has more kills by the gunner than the driver. As someone said in a previous thread
"the bumper shouldn't get more kills than the gunner".
AV's are pretty good, but there's no way you can avoid being hit by those logistics LAV's. They can tank a decent amount of damage even almost as much as a tank. You can't jump over a LAV. You can't sidestep it. It only has to poke you for you to die. It shouldn't be this way.
Thats because people are only fitting their LAVs to run people over, But I've been an LAV gunner and gotten 20+ kills. A prototype blaster with damage mods on an LAV is awesome but I only know one guy who does it. He tells his gunner to wear a heavysuit and he drives it so that his gunner is in a good position to get kills, he even drives it up stairs to get next to objectives. |
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