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Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.06.18 04:48:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:[quote=BL4CKST4R]
As a whiny heavy, I endorse this pre-emptive whine/nerf MTAC thread! We are totally equipped to judge the balance of something that doesn't exist yet.
Still more fun than playing the game ;) |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
283
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Posted - 2013.06.18 04:51:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote: NO MTAC FOR INFANTRY! ONLY VEHICLE USERS GET MTACS BECAUSE THEYRE VEHICLES!
Indeed.
However, my mythical non-existant MTAC requires infantry Heavy Weapon skills for the dual HMGs! I'm as skilled into it as you are, vehicle grease monkey! So neener.
(And if it uses small turrets instead....lol.) |
Cy Clone1
Ill Omens EoN.
20
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Posted - 2013.06.18 05:03:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Jax Saurian wrote:MTACs don't even exist yet, not even concept art and you're complaining?
1. they are vehicles of COURSE they'll need vehicle skills 2. who's to say they don't get a single large turret or a small turret on both arms (two small turrets can be quite effective) 3. Where'd you get this information from? How do you know they'll move slower? 4. okay yeah probably
and to Void Echo, Do you even know what the enforcers are meant for? rail tanking, they're weaker so they can be destroyed while they RAIL TANK in the red line they aren't meant for the front lines and they aren't a nerf they are a variant of HAVs. Enforcers suck and anyone who thinks otherwise does not tank. I've never been killed by one. Madrugars are the only tanks worth anything. Any vehicle worth anything with be nerfed- look at the LLAV- the one vehicle left that is truly powerful and it'll soon be nerfed BC infantry can't stand vehicles being powerful. This is why MTACs will fail. They're other gold on release and nerfed, or they come pre-nerfed like the enforcer.
Im so tired of you saying that tanks are too weak. I run enforcer/ gunlogi rain tanks, and I never camp on the redlines, guess what my k/d is over 14. Enough with all this complaining. tanks are not these fragile things you make them out to be. small adjustments are all they need. |
Greg Dopson
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.19 04:45:00 -
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If there is a counter to the MTAC then I see no issues with them. Say one burst of Proto Swarm catches it on fire.
Simple counter to something op |
McFurious
TeamPlayers EoN.
114
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Posted - 2013.06.19 05:06:00 -
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Greg Dopson wrote:If there is a counter to the MTAC then I see no issues with them. Say one burst of Proto Swarm catches it on fire.
Simple counter to something op
Another MTAC obviously. |
SickJ
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
72
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Posted - 2013.06.19 06:17:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:I wonder how you balance MTACs without sh!tting all over heavies. Heavies can get into a LAV when they need to move fast. MTACs can't.
That was easy. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2008
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Posted - 2013.06.19 06:19:00 -
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SickJ wrote:Abron Garr wrote:I wonder how you balance MTACs without sh!tting all over heavies. Heavies can get into a LAV when they need to move fast. MTACs can't. That was easy. WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL GOING?!
Seriously, what's with these preemptive nerf threads? I just saw one the other day for Fighters which we've never even had an ETA given for. |
Valkary Rising
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.06.19 22:27:00 -
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Why do people like mobius constantly post about people posting.+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö+ö
Waaaaaaaa |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
519
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:56:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:SickJ wrote:Abron Garr wrote:I wonder how you balance MTACs without sh!tting all over heavies. Heavies can get into a LAV when they need to move fast. MTACs can't. That was easy. WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL GOING?! Seriously, what's with these preemptive nerf threads? I just saw one the other day for Fighters which we've never even had an ETA given for.
Why do you constantly sh*t in every thread you post in? |
Summer-Wolf
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
110
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Posted - 2013.06.20 02:05:00 -
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So...
OMG!!!!11111 JETS ARE GOING TO SUCK SO MUCH!!!! COULD YOU IMAGINE A FAST MOVING DROPSHIP WITH NO HP? AND IF NOT, NERF NERF NERF!!! GTFO NOOBS, YOU DONT FLY A DROPSHIP, YOU ARE A TANK DRIVER, YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!
thats pretty much what I understand of this thread.
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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
519
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Posted - 2013.06.20 02:13:00 -
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Summer-Wolf wrote:So...
OMG!!!!11111 JETS ARE GOING TO SUCK SO MUCH!!!! COULD YOU IMAGINE A FAST MOVING DROPSHIP WITH NO HP? AND IF NOT, NERF NERF NERF!!! GTFO NOOBS, YOU DONT FLY A DROPSHIP, YOU ARE A TANK DRIVER, YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!
thats pretty much what I understand of this thread.
Confirming that speculation in GD is a horrible idea. |
Skihids
the tritan industries RISE of LEGION
1646
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Posted - 2013.06.20 02:15:00 -
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You need a mission for the MTAC before you can claim it is impractical. It has to have something to be impractical for.
And of course that's CCP's main problem. It doesn't seem to have a clear mission for most of the vehicles in the game.
Any effort at balance must start off with a clear articulation of a mission. You can't judge capability without it. |
PlanetSide2Bomber
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:06:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year Insane Infantry Push Amazing Night Battle Night to Day Canyon Battle Intense Field Battle Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2013
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:27:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2nWNZfKFSI |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
192
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:52:00 -
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I really don't care. I want this back.
Remember this? If you do, your gaming history is awesome. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
192
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:57:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Void Echo wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Alright, let's assume we'll get MTACs this year. I think it's safe to say they'll require vehicle skills, use small turrets, move slower than tanks, and have less HP than tanks.
How is a vehicle that moves slower than a tank and that has less DPS going to survive against current AV and even tanks? Or maybe you should assume less and just wait. look at what supports this, the new enforcers cost 2x as much as real tanks yet are far weaker, mainly because the assaulters crying "nerf everything" Enforcers are a specializations of the HAVs, not an entirely new vehicle type. MTACs are an entirely new vehicle type. They're a specialization in death traps, like small sport coupe cars. Crash, and die. With an enforcer, you get hit once, you die. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
192
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:58:00 -
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Jax Saurian wrote:MTACs don't even exist yet, not even concept art and you're complaining?
1. they are vehicles of COURSE they'll need vehicle skills 2. who's to say they don't get a single large turret or a small turret on both arms (two small turrets can be quite effective) 3. Where'd you get this information from? How do you know they'll move slower? 4. okay yeah they'll probably have less armor/shields
and to Void Echo, Do you even know what the enforcers are meant for? rail tanking, they're weaker so they can be destroyed while they RAIL TANK in the red line they aren't meant for the front lines and they aren't a nerf they are a variant of HAVs. Have you seen the bonuses the enforcers get? Blasters and missiles, not rail guns. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
192
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Posted - 2013.06.20 05:25:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Tank? Unless they want to go full Mechwarrior up in this *****, honestly thinking it's either a Heavy on steroids with 2x small turrets ... or an LAV that steps on you.
Nerf getting stepped on.
Edit: Actually... dual wield heavy weapons makes more sense. I'd take the HMG with 3x the ammo the heavy has, due to it being a highly mobile vehicle. |
Aliakin Koreck
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.20 05:26:00 -
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Mtacs would be a welcoming addition |
Mikael Murray
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:08:00 -
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Yeah variety is great.
im for mtacs |
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PlanetsideTwo F2PonPS4
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:37:00 -
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The addition of another heavy anything would be a bad idea. |
PlanetsideTwo F2PonPS4
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.06.22 06:41:00 -
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http://youtu.be/gCBTN_3wQ8g |
Ray Poe
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:45:00 -
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I would love to see a mech rider. Many examples of successfull mtacs have been produced, look at PS2 for example. |
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