1) We need adv and proto tanks to defend against adv, proto, and officer AV

2) Reduce mlt LAV HP by 50%

3) Buff DS PG by 50%

4) Buff tank PG 25%

5) Increase lethal LAV ram speed to one half of top speed

6) Decrease lethal tank ram speed to one half top speed

1) We need adv and proto tanks to defend against adv, proto, and officer AV

2) Reduce mlt LAV HP by 50%

3) Buff DS PG by 50%

4) Buff tank PG 25%

5) Increase lethal LAV ram speed to one half of top speed

6) Decrease lethal tank ram speed to one half top speed

most points agreed, DS doesn't really need any love, to quote a legendary figure around here I would say "learn to fly", if your staying still enough to be hit by a forge gun I don't think the extra hardener will save ya nor do you deserve it. They do need some love in their weapons maybe, those gun gimble things are utter **** cant even shoot straight forward lol.

I hope you aren't being serious.

I was waiting for my free MLT LAV to drop in by my spawn point behind my redline. Saw a dropship flying around (not staying still and hovering). I jumped into the railgun installation right next to me, 2 shots later the DS was dropping down in flames, half the map away.

If people on the ground are paying any type of attention, DS are absolutely worthless and so easy to kill.

I hope you aren't being serious.

I was waiting for my free MLT LAV to drop in by my spawn point behind my redline. Saw a dropship flying around (not staying still and hovering). I jumped into the railgun installation right next to me, 2 shots later the DS was dropping down in flames, half the map away.

If people on the ground are paying any type of attention, DS are absolutely worthless and so easy to kill.

And make LAV blaster turrets more deadly and LAV missile turrets more accurate.

Half serious, but what is a DS currently? Its a transporter. I don't understand people who want it to be able to stay afloat the battlefield shooting down with impunity and being invurnable.

Its a taxi that gets people to hard to reach places/ quickly behind enemy lines. Drop of your troops and FO/recall. Done.

And besides, an ADS in the hands of a good pilot is as good as indestructible anyhoo in the hands of a good pilot, if people wanna play Blackhawk Down then they should get DOSbox and play just that.

Half serious, but what is a DS currently? Its a transporter. I don't understand people who want it to be able to stay afloat the battlefield shooting down with impunity and being invurnable.

Its a taxi that gets people to hard to reach places/ quickly behind enemy lines. Drop of your troops and FO/recall. Done.

And besides, an ADS in the hands of a good pilot is as good as indestructible anyhoo in the hands of a good pilot, if people wanna play Blackhawk Down then they should get DOSbox and play just that.

Half serious, but what is a DS currently? Its a transporter. I don't understand people who want it to be able to stay afloat the battlefield shooting down with impunity and being invurnable.

Its a taxi that gets people to hard to reach places/ quickly behind enemy lines. Drop of your troops and FO/recall. Done.

And besides, an ADS in the hands of a good pilot is as good as indestructible anyhoo in the hands of a good pilot, if people wanna play Blackhawk Down then they should get DOSbox and play just that.

Buffing my PG isn't going to do a thing to my DS. I'm a Python pilot, and I don't need more.. I just need more health. An extra high slot would be sweet, that or just more base HP.

1. Agreed. We need stronger tanks to fight off 3000+ per shot Forge guns. The reason we don't see too many blaster tanks now is because of unbalanced AV gear.

2. mlt LAV are making this game very annoying tbh. to some players it may be a fun thing to do, not the same story for the rest

3. PG buffs to 50%? may be not

4. PG buffs to 25% may be not. 2% PG increase per level for upgrading the HAV skills may be? and (1% CPU, 1% PG) increase for upgrading LAV skills?

5. Agreed

6. Tanks are slow as hell so it wouldn't matter

You're kidding about 4, right? Dropsuits get the 5% PG skill and we need that too. We should get everything they get for our vehicles out of fairness because every build is just one big tank/dropship nerf.

And make LAV blaster turrets more deadly and LAV missile turrets more accurate.

1. Agreed. We need stronger tanks to fight off 3000+ per shot Forge guns. The reason we don't see too many blaster tanks now is because of unbalanced AV gear.

2. mlt LAV are making this game very annoying tbh. to some players it may be a fun thing to do, not the same story for the rest

3. PG buffs to 50%? may be not

4. PG buffs to 25% may be not. 2% PG increase per level for upgrading the HAV skills may be? and (1% CPU, 1% PG) increase for upgrading LAV skills?

5. Agreed

6. Tanks are slow as hell so it wouldn't matter

No i'm not kidding about #4. 2% per level. That's 10% overall + 5% (CPU + PG) from LAV skills. Dropsuit has a max PG of what 50?70? so 25% of that isnt that much. But 25% of an armor tanks PG is just a bit too much. It's gonna create more Nerf The Tank threads. The tanks aren't that bad now. They are definitely stronger than the previous build. Just needs a bit more PG and CPU

You think Chromosome Tanks were weaker than Tanks in Uprising? That is not true at all. I speak as a player who was both a Gunnlogi and Madrugar pilot pre-Uprising and am now just as a Madrugar pilot.

Now about your 2% comment:

Look at the PG of a Gunnlogi/Madrugar. Now look at the PG requirement for turrets, a Heavy Plate/Shield, and a Heavy Repairer/Booster. If you don't want to do it, just know that you cannot without putting in PG modules. In order to run Standard Blasters, Standard Heavy Plate, and a Heavy Supplemental Armor Repairer (that's an armor repairer that requires less PG/CPU but heals far less than the Standard), I needed to throw in the second best PG module in the game (which is like 11 or 12%). That is with already having Vehicle Upgrades 5.

The CPU skill for Vehicles still exists, so it makes me curious why they decided to hit PG.

It is even worse for Assault Dropships. 3 Turrets uses like 2/3 of their PG.

Be well.

you do know that most tankers (especially shield) are suffering from this.... we have an increase cpu skill for tanks but why no pg... drop suits have both but why don't vehicles

And make LAV blaster turrets more deadly and LAV missile turrets more accurate.

You think Chromosome Tanks were weaker than Tanks in Uprising? That is not true at all. I speak as a player who was both a Gunnlogi and Madrugar pilot pre-Uprising and am now just as a Madrugar pilot.

Now about your 2% comment:

Look at the PG of a Gunnlogi/Madrugar. Now look at the PG requirement for turrets, a Heavy Plate/Shield, and a Heavy Repairer/Booster. If you don't want to do it, just know that you cannot without putting in PG modules. In order to run Standard Blasters, Standard Heavy Plate, and a Heavy Supplemental Armor Repairer (that's an armor repairer that requires less PG/CPU but heals far less than the Standard), I needed to throw in the second best PG module in the game (which is like 11 or 12%). That is with already having Vehicle Upgrades 5.

The CPU skill for Vehicles still exists, so it makes me curious why they decided to hit PG.

It is even worse for Assault Dropships. 3 Turrets uses like 2/3 of their PG.

Be well.

I completely agree. I've said many times that the LAVs need a HP reduction, but there needs to be a fair trade off with this. Giving the turrets better accuracy, damage, and range is a great way to counteract the downside. Now you're a mobile killing machine that requires teamwork, which should be the main focus of this game anyway.

Tanks in uprising have more health. Movement speed is not too bad. PG and CPU has always been a struggle. The option between gank vs tank always existed. I don't have all the skills into tanking yet. I drive a madrugar as usual. I can easily fit most of what i need. Yes i have problem with PG. a little buff to PG would be nice. But not a 25%. Thats like saying "I die too much tanking, so let me put everything in there" CCP needs to find a good balance for it, but don't think that'd happen.

They nerfed the CPU in AR suits. Proto AR has less CPU then it used to have. but thats a different topic. Needed PG modules in the past. thats the reason they are there tbh

No i'm not kidding about #4. 2% per level. That's 10% overall + 5% (CPU + PG) from LAV skills. Dropsuit has a max PG of what 50?70? so 25% of that isnt that much. But 25% of an armor tanks PG is just a bit too much. It's gonna create more Nerf The Tank threads. The tanks aren't that bad now. They are definitely stronger than the previous build. Just needs a bit more PG and CPU

Are you serious? We had that 25% PG in Chromosome and it was great. Without it, there's no way to run tanks without PG modules. The infantry never equip those on their suits and they run full proto all day long. 25% is less than what we should have. A gunlogi should be able to fit a heavy supplementary shield extender, heavy converse booster, railgun, and 2 surges WITHOUT putting on 2 PG upgrades. It's all STD gear so we SHOULD be able to but we can't because we got nerfed. We need the old engineering skill back. Chromosome was pretty close to tank balance, other than the 5000 DPS saggy's. I'd pay $50 to go back to that.

Just had AV grenades take out a quarter armor per hit. Why do you need more?

It'd be great if CCP would stop balancing tanks around pubs, and do it in PC where gunlogis go up against officer forges. It's the stupidest thing ever, balancing around the weakest players. Just give them their own little place where they get 50% ISK, SP, and the KDR doesnt go up so experienced players dont go there. I know no tankers would go somewhere with less money.

o man only if u had a nano hive for your 20k isk nades or however much they cost would have blown up 1.5-2.5mil isk tank. it must be so heart breaking. by urself too.