I've encountered more noobs in FW than pubs.

I can't even begin to imagine that any player driven cooperative action will take place.

OP, I'm not criticizing you, but really, the folks around here think they are doing everyone a favor when the grief on the new players. We aren't playing with a socially adept deck around here.

Better yet, if you gave a crap about new players, make an alt and teach players on the academy level, squad with them after they leave the academy. There's a more OP weapon out there on the field and it costs 0 SP/ISK/AUR: experience. Not all are willing to learn, but the ones that are could be your next war buddy or that guy that totally saves your corp with a clutch win when PC actually does matter. I have alts that are sub 3 million SP and I can still hold my own because I know how to play the game, if CCP gave new players the opportunity to learn as well instead of this kiddie table BS before they get thrown to the sharks they would have a chance as well. Want to save newberries? Teach them yourself and stop blaming everyone else because there's nothing better to do but pubstomp because matchmaking was never a priority.

Well, we vets will play FW more. Just as soon as they increase the rewards/drop rates of items for FW. FW and Quick Matches are the same thing, except for the fact you have to wait for a server to open in FW.

At least in PC you can get 700k+ isk... and thats when the enemy doesn't even show up.

There are already 3 or 4 good corps that do that very thing...far better then i ever could.

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yet it is not working.

Go ask those corps what new player retention is like.

It's not working because not everyone who cares bothers to help. You don't even have to be in a corp to do this, just make an alt and squad up with newberries in the academy a few hours a week when your main is capped. So far I taught an assault that if we wants to stop getting ran over, spec into AV, snipers how to help their team instead of just racking up kills and countless other players that there's more to this game than assault suits and ARs. At the same time, their enthusiasm is slowly restoring my faith in this game's future, little by little...

So.. be forced to wait for a lobby to show up, then hope we can join it before it fills, then wait in the warbarge for 5m before the match begins? And then do all of that with the exact same rewards as IB? Meaning we get less SP/ISK for our time than playing in IB?

No thanks, I'd rather protostomp newbs in militia gear all day.

CCP needs to give us a reason to play in FW, cause I'm sure as hell not gonna willingly force myself to play what is, essentially, an inferior version of IB.

So.. be forced to wait for a lobby to show up, then hope we can join it before it fills, then wait in the warbarge for 5m before the match begins? And then do all of that with the exact same rewards as IB? Meaning we get less SP/ISK for our time than playing in IB?

No thanks, I'd rather protostomp newbs in militia gear all day.

CCP needs to give us a reason to play in FW, cause I'm sure as hell not gonna willingly force myself to play what is, essentially, an inferior version of IB.

I've encountered more noobs in FW than pubs.

So.. be forced to wait for a lobby to show up, then hope we can join it before it fills, then wait in the warbarge for 5m before the match begins? And then do all of that with the exact same rewards as IB? Meaning we get less SP/ISK for our time than playing in IB?

No thanks, I'd rather protostomp newbs in militia gear all day.

CCP needs to give us a reason to play in FW, cause I'm sure as hell not gonna willingly force myself to play what is, essentially, an inferior version of IB.

same

I don't think crutching myself with gear and skill levels isn't enough.

"...stay out of PuB matches. Play faction warfare instead."
That's a nice idea, but you're not doing the n00bs any favors by opting out of pub matches.

Yup...but if you and other vets go there and not in Pubs that will change very quickly.

joining a FW is easier said then done when there isn't a lot to choose from and that we have to wait awhile to see some to join them. also make the rewards better then plain match making

I support your idea,unfortunately,there's no honor among thieves here in New Eden.

Without the "true" meta game aspect of Dust,one of the only things that people are playing for in Dust is their KDR.I would suggest taking KDR out so that people aren't constantly trying to pad their stats,but then we would lose more people than we already have.

Stats should have been reset for uprising anyway since Chrome was full of so many exploits. I almost wish that FF was on 24/7 so the stat padders can STFU and start working as a team.

Stats should have been reset for uprising anyway since Chrome was full of so many exploits. I almost wish that FF was on 24/7 so the stat padders can STFU and start working as a team.

I support your idea,unfortunately,there's no honor among thieves here in New Eden.

Without the "true" meta game aspect of Dust,one of the only things that people are playing for in Dust is their KDR.I would suggest taking KDR out so that people aren't constantly trying to pad their stats,but then we would lose more people than we already have.

Stats should have been reset for uprising anyway since Chrome was full of so many exploits. I almost wish that FF was on 24/7 so the stat padders can STFU and start working as a team.