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Kevall Longstride wrote:

I know there has been some upheaval since the launch of Uprising with an EP leaving and a slew of rapid fire updates to fix issues with the game. But with the past experience of dealing with the CSM in Eve under their belt none of this should've effected the development of the mechanism that the CPM would operate under.

The fact that after six months we haven't even got a charter, never mind a system of election in place can only be blamed on CCP not stepping up to follow through what was said when the CPM was announced.

It has always been a concern to me that the ONLY form of insight into the workings of the CPM was in Heinrichs blogs. We've had nothing from CCP as to their discussions with the CPM. Such reports and acknowledgement of a working relationship happen all the time at the Eve end which of course is based in Reykjavik so it's only logical to assume that this failing is due to the Shanghai end of the operation.

But as Heinrich has stated they now have a growing management and community team in Shanghai but it's going to be a hard slog to get what is now a years work done in 6 months before scheduling elections for CPM 1.

The fact that this impasse has been reached is entirely the fault of CCP. As long term players we've read and heard the growing frustrations of the CPM regarding how little they have to report on the movement of various things such as the afore mentioned charter.

I will be reading this public statement from CCP very carefully. Unless the first paragraph clearly states what a complete screw up they've made with the CPM and its lack of a mandate, vision and co-operation with the CPM, we should consider that CCP don't take the CPM seriously.

If they do that, we have a chance. But a lot of work will be ahead and if they don't have time for elections maybe a second nominated CPM from a chosen short list or something similar should be considered.

I'd like to thank the members of the CPM for continuing to do their best in a situation clearly not of their making and urge CCP to get into gear.

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Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 74	Posted - 2013.09.14 11:06:00 - [91] - Quote After GTA 5 release DUST will become my secondary game.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1438	Posted - 2013.09.14 19:19:00 - [92] - Quote Thanks for finally getting the update down Hans but I'm sad to say I only really see bad news here. That said, I'm pretty much on the same page as the CPM in terms of the things you've reported here - most importantly (and I've been saying this all along): spit and polish is all very good and well but at the end of the day you're still just left with a shiny shoe like all the others out there already. Basically, this game really quite urgently needs to start capitalising on the things that will make it unique and stand out from the plethora of other shooters available and coming out soon. It's the Eve link that draws many people to this game. It's the promise of big battles that actually mean something in some wider context and affect the game outside of the battle. What we have is a lobby shooter with virtually no consequences or wider context. That is not what people signed up for and that is not what will keep people playing, even if the mechanics and core gameplay are frickin' perfect. As it stands this game currently has almost zero USP. It claims a huge one but that's just a distant dream by the sounds of things. CCP needs to start making Dust into something more or people will stop believing the dream will ever get here - how much patience can any playerbase really have?
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1438	Posted - 2013.09.14 19:21:00 - [93] - Quote On another note... Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: You also might have noticed some rotations in activity levels amongst CPM members, as RL obligations pull us our separate directions. Nova Knife and myself have been back to work and putting some long hours in the last couple of weeks, as you can see by my infrequent postings lately. Laurent Cazaderon, on the other hand, is back from vacation abroad and once again engaging both CCP and the community in full force. I only see three CPM names there. IWS has announced his expected drop in activity, though is still around here in places. I could have sworn there were more than 4 on the CPM...
THUNDER HOURSE Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.09.15 02:34:00 - [94] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Thanks for finally getting the update down Hans but I'm sad to say I only really see bad news here. That said, I'm pretty much on the same page as the CPM in terms of the things you've reported here - most importantly (and I've been saying this all along): spit and polish is all very good and well but at the end of the day you're still just left with a shiny shoe like all the others out there already. Basically, this game really quite urgently needs to start capitalising on the things that will make it unique and stand out from the plethora of other shooters available and coming out soon. It's the Eve link that draws many people to this game. It's the promise of big battles that actually mean something in some wider context and affect the game outside of the battle. What we have is a lobby shooter with virtually no consequences or wider context. That is not what people signed up for and that is not what will keep people playing, even if the mechanics and core gameplay are frickin' perfect. As it stands this game currently has almost zero USP. It claims a huge one but that's just a distant dream by the sounds of things. CCP needs to start making Dust into something more or people will stop believing the dream will ever get here - how much patience can any playerbase really have? I have to agree with every thing he said. The big point of this game was Eve link. If I wanted just run and gun with no direction I would play other FPS. I must admit that I like the team work you have to have in order to really win an game and it keeps me coming back for more but there will be other games coming out that will have this like PS2 on the PS4. I hope things get back on track with EVE side
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 378	Posted - 2013.09.16 08:19:00 - [95] - Quote I see you mentioned a couple of problems introduced in 1.4 but no talk about the health bar problems for logis? Also could we finally have some clarification on this: Quote: [BUG] Unlimited Equipment using Supply Depots - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108231&find=unread Status: We're aware of this issue and it's on the backlog to be fixed or does CCP just hates logis?
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 361	Posted - 2013.09.17 05:26:00 - [96] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: there's one other recent beast that I'm going to tackle in a separate blog post this weekend GÇô the highly controversial aim assist. There's really enough to discuss about this feature alone and its context that I've decided to give it the proper treatment it deserves. Still waiting...........
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 364	Posted - 2013.09.19 00:11:00 - [97] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: there's one other recent beast that I'm going to tackle in a separate blog post this weekend GÇô the highly controversial aim assist. There's really enough to discuss about this feature alone and its context that I've decided to give it the proper treatment it deserves. Still waiting...........
THUNDER HOURSE Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.09.22 22:03:00 - [98] - Quote You late JAG Im looking for a bone here
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 371	Posted - 2013.09.23 05:42:00 - [99] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: Still waiting...........
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1509	Posted - 2013.09.23 22:46:00 - [100] - Quote Hans? You still with us buddy?

Vrain Matari ZionTCD 966	Posted - 2013.09.26 11:55:00 - [101] - Quote Sniper must've got 'im.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1558	Posted - 2013.09.28 08:17:00 - [102] - Quote Id like to hear what everyone in the CPM has been up to lately. It's great getting there occasional reports from Hans but it would be reassuring to know that every member is pulling their weight and nobody needs replacing because they're doing diddly squat. Can we get each CPM member to write up their own little summary of recent activity please?
Heinrich Jagerblitzen D3LTA FORC3 886	Posted - 2013.09.30 10:25:00 - [103] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Sniper must've got 'im. Nope, an employer did. Got a new job! Good news is I'm no longer unemployed (only had three weeks left before my assistance ran out, so I'd been near-panicking with a wave of applications)...bad news is that I continue to disappoint on the blogging front. Getting a report written is my afternoon project tomorrow, thanks for your patience. o7
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 1002	Posted - 2013.09.30 11:58:00 - [104] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Sniper must've got 'im. Nope, an employer did. Got a new job! Good news is I'm no longer unemployed (only had three weeks left before my assistance ran out, so I'd been near-panicking with a wave of applications)...bad news is that I continue to disappoint on the blogging front. Getting a report written is my afternoon project tomorrow, thanks for your patience. o7 Congratz Hans. Jobs are good since they help facilitate New Eden ;)
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1575	Posted - 2013.09.30 16:42:00 - [105] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Sniper must've got 'im. Nope, an employer did. Got a new job! Good news is I'm no longer unemployed (only had three weeks left before my assistance ran out, so I'd been near-panicking with a wave of applications)...bad news is that I continue to disappoint on the blogging front. Getting a report written is my afternoon project tomorrow, thanks for your patience. o7 Good on ya. I know what you feel like - I started a new job (after 16 months unemployed) last month and my Dust time has been really hurting ever since :(
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 560	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:36:00 - [106] - Quote Congrats Hans. Look forward to the next report.
Dante Kretschmer D3LTA ACADEMY 90	Posted - 2013.10.02 18:11:00 - [107] - Quote Congrats for your new job!
Jason Punk DUST University Ivy League 258	Posted - 2013.10.03 17:13:00 - [108] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Sniper must've got 'im. Nope, an employer did. Got a new job! Good news is I'm no longer unemployed (only had three weeks left before my assistance ran out, so I'd been near-panicking with a wave of applications)...bad news is that I continue to disappoint on the blogging front. Getting a report written is my afternoon project tomorrow, thanks for your patience. o7 Great to hear about the job. Speaking of which, great work on the post. Good to know the landscape up there and a common understanding of what we need to stand out for Dust 514. I think you guys are dead on, you absolutely have to swing that development door open again. Unless it's essentially something that is slowly being built over these months, ship-boarding/market interaction and the "link" needs to truly be established. All the other things will come when the tools are put in the players hands to grow large and or lose everything. That's where stories and depth are created. It's not rhetoric, it's a fact...People self-advertise what they can accomplish and being able to do anything even remotely like that will allow our game to stand on it's own legs. A perfectly polished, coded, and lag-free Eve would be virtually unplayable and boring without the player loss/gain and the ever-present "potential". All that being said, I beg of you and the rest of the CPM, continue to kick ass and keep doing what you do. <3 Punk :D
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 389	Posted - 2013.10.04 03:49:00 - [109] - Quote Congratulations on the job! (both you and Django Quik) Don't mind me I'm just spoiled by Ripard Teg's roboblogging.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 391	Posted - 2013.10.06 02:46:00 - [110] - Quote i hate you I hate you I hate you ... call me.

SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 401	Posted - 2013.10.11 06:38:00 - [111] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: ... call me maybe
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 78	Posted - 2013.10.12 22:54:00 - [112] - Quote vehicles delayed for 1.6? or 1.7?
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 1081	Posted - 2013.10.13 13:56:00 - [113] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: vehicles delayed for 1.6? or 1.7? Vehicles in 1.7. 1.6 is going to be an engine optimization patch plus and bug fixes, plus some Dev tools tools
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 614	Posted - 2013.10.14 11:28:00 - [114] - Quote This is apropriate imho http://lifehacker.com/diagnose-what-makes-you-late-so-you-can-fix-the-real-is-472944743
Heinrich Jagerblitzen D3LTA FORC3 913	Posted - 2013.10.16 22:39:00 - [115] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: This is apropriate imho http://lifehacker.com/diagnose-what-makes-you-late-so-you-can-fix-the-real-is-472944743 I'll make use of it myself as well... Trust me on this one: there will be no more apologies, and no more excuses. There will also be no more "real" activity reports unless there is actually meaningful progress to talk about. That ball is in CCP's court now. Allow me to explain below....
Heinrich Jagerblitzen D3LTA FORC3 913	Posted - 2013.10.16 22:40:00 - [116] - Quote October 16, 2013 We have reached a crossroads. Four days away from finishing our 6th month since CCP Dolan announced the Council of Planetary Management, an immense amount of work remains in the process of establishing a practical, efficient working relationship with CCP Shanghai. By now most of you have learned that we now have a new Executive Producer: Jean-Charles Gaudechon, also known as CCP Rouge. My original hope was to have gotten far enough along by now that we'd be ready to collectively teach Dust514's next E.P. the merits of a strong working relationship through direct demonstration. Today, it appears that he is our best remaining chance at building that relationship. I've struggled the past few weeks to figure out exactly what to write about since my last report, for fairly obvious reasons. Many of you have already been asking lots of questions about initiatives discussed in previous reports, such as the establishment of a CPM charter or a regular meeting schedule. Many of you have also noticed we haven't had a lot of answers. I finally sat down last Friday and hammered out a rough outline of what I'd write if I were to produce another typical Activity Report. Under normal circumstances, I ask questions about the items I'm unsure about, though I don't ever have CCP directly review or "rubber stamp" my blog posts GÇô I've been doing this long enough to know what's safe or unsafe to say, and I think its also important to retain my own voice as much as possible. This time, however, I wanted both CCP and the CPM to be on exactly the same page about what has transpired since I last blogged, and to give both parties a fair chance to give me something different to write about. The response from CCP was immediate GÇô and since Friday the CPM have been in and out of a series of intense discussions with CCP Logibro, CCP Dolan, CCP Saberwing, and almost every member of the ever-growing Shanghai management group. The culmination of this was a meeting held yesterday with the new Executive Producer, CCP Rouge, an event we weren't expecting for another three weeks at least. The timeslot for the meeting was originally planned for a discussion of an upcoming event, but the meeting was cancelled and replaced with some face time with the new boss. Rouge had caught wind of our internal discussion about the state of the CPM and its development, and wanted to get involved immediately. As frustrating as this may be for some of you, I will not be discussing the meeting in this post. Everyone knows what the CPM has been asking for, and everyone knows what has been promised in previous meetings. While we very much welcome CCP's apparent enthusiasm, we've also seen it many variations of it throughout the last 6 months. Were there commitments made in this meeting as well? Absolutely! But I will not be outlining them here. The time has passed for the CPM to take verbal assurances at face value, and from this point on we can only evaluate CCP's interest in engaging the community through observing substantive action. As your representative body, pledges of cooperation made to the CPM are also made to each of you, and because of this they should almost always be made to you directly. Since CCP Dolan's initial post announcing our formation, the CPM's activities as well as CCP's interest in our development have been documented almost exclusively through this blog, and that will no longer be the case. The last pledge from CCP that I will communicate for them is this: There will be a public statement by the end of the week, where CCP will update the community on the state of the CPM as well discuss how we will be proceeding moving forward. It is only fair at this point to expect CCP to provide the community with a transparent and critical examination of how we got to where we are today, as well as to discuss how they plan to improve the situation in the coming weeks. We have a window of opportunity now that CCP Saberwing is onboard to attend to the CPM in Shanghai, at a time when the possibility exists for top-down integration and management of the communication pipelines we've been waiting for. Hope certainly remains, but optimism will only return once we see the immediate mobilization that we deserve at this point and time. There is certainly a lot more ground to cover, but the community must look to CCP to follow through on the public statement and begin this process themselves. Once everyone is caught up on the events leading to this point as well as what was covered in the meeting yesterday, I will have a lot more to discuss. If things get moving quickly enough, my intention is to resume weekly posts provided I actually have tangible news to deliver. In the meantime its CCP's turn to catch up with the community, and I look forward to seeing what they have to say.
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 623	Posted - 2013.10.16 22:51:00 - [117] - Quote Hooray!
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 404	Posted - 2013.10.16 23:42:00 - [118] - Quote Welp
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 579	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:21:00 - [119] - Quote I know there has been some upheaval since the launch of Uprising with an EP leaving and a slew of rapid fire updates to fix issues with the game. But with the past experience of dealing with the CSM in Eve under their belt none of this should've effected the development of the mechanism that the CPM would operate under. The fact that after six months we haven't even got a charter, never mind a system of election in place can only be blamed on CCP not stepping up to follow through what was said when the CPM was announced. It has always been a concern to me that the ONLY form of insight into the workings of the CPM was in Heinrichs blogs. We've had nothing from CCP as to their discussions with the CPM. Such reports and acknowledgement of a working relationship happen all the time at the Eve end which of course is based in Reykjavik so it's only logical to assume that this failing is due to the Shanghai end of the operation. But as Heinrich has stated they now have a growing management and community team in Shanghai but it's going to be a hard slog to get what is now a years work done in 6 months before scheduling elections for CPM 1. The fact that this impasse has been reached is entirely the fault of CCP. As long term players we've read and heard the growing frustrations of the CPM regarding how little they have to report on the movement of various things such as the afore mentioned charter. I will be reading this public statement from CCP very carefully. Unless the first paragraph clearly states what a complete screw up they've made with the CPM and its lack of a mandate, vision and co-operation with the CPM, we should consider that CCP don't take the CPM seriously. If they do that, we have a chance. But a lot of work will be ahead and if they don't have time for elections maybe a second nominated CPM from a chosen short list or something similar should be considered. I'd like to thank the members of the CPM for continuing to do their best in a situation clearly not of their making and urge CCP to get into gear.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 1113	Posted - 2013.10.17 17:03:00 - [120] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: I know there has been some upheaval since the launch of Uprising with an EP leaving and a slew of rapid fire updates to fix issues with the game. But with the past experience of dealing with the CSM in Eve under their belt none of this should've effected the development of the mechanism that the CPM would operate under. The fact that after six months we haven't even got a charter, never mind a system of election in place can only be blamed on CCP not stepping up to follow through what was said when the CPM was announced. It has always been a concern to me that the ONLY form of insight into the workings of the CPM was in Heinrichs blogs. We've had nothing from CCP as to their discussions with the CPM. Such reports and acknowledgement of a working relationship happen all the time at the Eve end which of course is based in Reykjavik so it's only logical to assume that this failing is due to the Shanghai end of the operation. But as Heinrich has stated they now have a growing management and community team in Shanghai but it's going to be a hard slog to get what is now a years work done in 6 months before scheduling elections for CPM 1. The fact that this impasse has been reached is entirely the fault of CCP. As long term players we've read and heard the growing frustrations of the CPM regarding how little they have to report on the movement of various things such as the afore mentioned charter. I will be reading this public statement from CCP very carefully. Unless the first paragraph clearly states what a complete screw up they've made with the CPM and its lack of a mandate, vision and co-operation with the CPM, we should consider that CCP don't take the CPM seriously. If they do that, we have a chance. But a lot of work will be ahead and if they don't have time for elections maybe a second nominated CPM from a chosen short list or something similar should be considered. I'd like to thank the members of the CPM for continuing to do their best in a situation clearly not of their making and urge CCP to get into gear. Well said, Kevall. And agreed.



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