Due to the disgraceful wasted matches in which one side is outmatched simply because of afk'ers on their team, I have started video documentation of all afk players I find riding the match out in the MCC without contributing. Unlike MS, CCP have no rules against naming and shaming players, only rules against breaching their privacy, ie revealing their true IRL identity. When I have about five minutes of video, it will be published on YouTube for all players to see. Should CCP ever introduce friendly fire into all game types, other people who DO play the game will know exactly who to kill. Should certain corps not endorse the afk *cough* 'playstyle' *cough*, they will know who not to add. Should your CURRENT corp not endorse what you are doing, they will know who to boot.

Should CCP decide to take action against MCC AFK'ers, they will have good information on where to start.

But seriously CCP, start doing something about this situation soon please. I have no interest in playing this game if my team mates also have no interest.

lol damn I thought MCC afk'ers was about Chromosome being boring, it carried over... But lol your seriously making a video over it... You are on the list of people taking drastic measures thinking they can stop the MCC camping.... BAHAHA that will happen.....


- GETH

CCP has closed MULTIPLE lists of people AFK farming.

inb4lock.

Its just a game, you really should relax

I'm not putting the list here. It's going on YouTube.

Well CCP won't ban them anyways simply because they haven't declared it an exploit.

Nothing wrong with AFK'ing. Sounds like you need to HTFU.

HA! Nice turn of phrase. However, I would suggest it is those who are afk'ing who need to HTFU. If they're too afraid to fight, why be on at all?

HA! Nice turn of phrase. However, I would suggest it is those who are afk'ing who need to HTFU. If they're too afraid to fight, why be on at all?

So, while you are busy on your witch hunt video taping AFK'ers, how are YOU helping your team exactly?

Should certain corps not endorse the afk *cough* 'playstyle' *cough*

So, while you are busy on your witch hunt video taping AFK'ers, how are YOU helping your team exactly?

I'm pretty sure that's not how that works...

AFK in the MCC is the only way to enjoy this POS.

But much like afk mining in EVE, they should give the players the tools to take care of it themselves. Most likely, it will be penalised eventually, but I would much rather see friendly fire enabled, or both.

Ever thought of playing something else then?

Exactly what tools are you talking about? Do you mean the ability for one player to blow up a miner who is afk?

Fine I'll go along with that as long as we can treat pub matches as "high sec" matches in which CONCORD can come in and blast you for friendly fire and you get an additional 10 seconds added to your spawn timer. In which case, you have hurt your team three fold, since 1 you took a spawn from them by using FF, two you got killed by CONCORD losing the team another spawn, and three you've added another 10 seconds to your spawn timer, 10 seconds you could be making a difference instead of complaining about AFK'ers.

Of course, there is another way. Stop complaining and just play. It's a pub match and has no bearing on events in the game so really does it matter?

But now that it hits me, I actually like those rules for FF in matches when it is implemented. It would be funny as hell to see how teams react to getting punished by dumb players shooting their own team and oh the griefing that would be had, the tears would fall and our cups would runth over.

Yeah, I play Ambush. I'm also not foolish enough to ignore Dust completely because CCP is liable to do something with Dust that will actually have an effect on EVE. In the mean time let players exploit all the broken mechanics they can, it's the only way CCP is actually going to fix them.

Why would you shame people for employing one of the few ways to enjoy this broken game?

Are you mad that not everyone splurges out of their jeans over DUST?

I don't even play, so I feel more on the side of the MCC afk'ers. Maybe if the game was worthwhile and fun to play we wouldn't have people spending time in the MCC...

lol damn I thought MCC afk'ers was about Chromosome being boring, it carried over... But lol your seriously making a video over it... You are on the list of people taking drastic measures thinking they can stop the MCC camping.... BAHAHA that will happen.....


- GETH

If the game is boring, why be on it at all? Why not play something more interesting? You are screwing up other player's games with your presence and lack of contribution. If you don't want to play, get out, or get shamed.

Stop afk'ers? No, no intention of stopping them, and if friendly fire was enabled, I'd be shooting them. We're going to lose the match anyway, might as well get it done quickly, right? No, my intention is merely to shame.

Agree with this to a degree, but I'm talking about setting up tools that are both within the spirit of New Eden, and also suitable for an FPS. Players messing up a match are essentially in breach of the "contract" they are under for the match, to whatever NPC corp has "hired" them for the job. In this case, if players are afk for a period, with FF enabled, they could be considered as assisting the enemy by refusing to fight, in which case they BECOME the enemy. Perhaps some way of sending them to the other team should be implemented if they are detected as afk for too long, or to a third 'team' of afk'ers that can be shot legally by everyone and anyone.

IF I encounter them as I'm playing. And if there is no team, then what's the point? As far as I'm concerned, afk'ers are ruining the game for people who do enjoy it, and don't find it boring at all. If you don't like it, don't play it. Go back to COD.

While I am sure it isn't the case, I'm gonna give AFK'ers an excuse.

Perhaps they are Roleplaying. Perhaps, they were hired by a corp to take a district from another corp. Since there are currently no mechanics in place to facilitate this, they afk, so as to gimp their team and cause a potential lose.

Since they can't be paid by the other corp for causing a loss, they RP that the ISK they receive at the end of the match is indeed from the opposing corp. Let's also say that any salvage and SP that they got after the match was a bonus for a job well done.

Purely BS on my part even saying that, however, the point is, it doesn't matter what other players are doing or not doing. You should be playing to have fun, not monitoring the actions of other players. If you want the role of monitoring other players, then perhaps you should apply to work at CCP.

AFK'ing has always been a part of New Eden. Whether players like it or not, it is what it is. Why must you be the 1 millionth person to start a thread about it? You are acting as though CCP hasn't read this crap before or witnessed it for themselves. Perhaps there is already something in the plans to fix it, but they aren't saying anything until it is closer to being ready to deploy. Perhaps CCP has no interest in stopping it because, for the most part they have always allowed players to play their games the way the player wants too.

In either case, there is nothing you can do to stop it and more threads complaining about it won't change anything until CCP chooses to change it. In the meantime, just play the game to have fun. Calling out these players isn't going to make a difference to anyone, most of us already know who these players are, so making a list, or video, or whatever else, isn't going to change anything. We can't kick them from the team, so what good is knowing them in the first place? It is at best a wasted effort that is fueled by some sort of internal rage you have going on. You've been trolled by afk'ers and they are laughing at you.

Games are meant to be played. If you don't like it, don't play it. Play something else.

You just contradicted yourself... Clearly Games are meant to be played, you over hear making videos of ingame characters being theoretically not controlled by the person because he or she is Literally AFK, AFK'ing. So play the game. Reason I say you are on the list is because In Chromosome build it started, a **** ton of people B-itched about others AFK'ing in the MCC.
My advice stop crying over it, stop waisting your time with making videos, play the game... Problem solved...


ps- I have no clue why you think I AFK, I never AFK, seams pointless.

- Geth

Its just a game, you really should relax

For now, I'm not the one causing a problem with the game. I would enjoy the game more if it weren't for the afk'ers. I like the game, whether I win or lose. That's why I play it. If you're only playing it to afk, I would suggest you have bigger problems than just being bored with this one game. Especially if you have options to play something else.

OP, here's how it works:

SP > Tears > ISK > WP

AFK gets you plenty of the only two that matter. Lol

I haven't been online for much recently, because I haven't been enjoying the game, but this thread inspired me to log in again just to afk farm.

OP, here's how it works:

SP > Tears > ISK > WP

AFK gets you plenty of the only two that matter. Lol

Nah, this is just what's wrong with today's so-called 'gamers'. I remember when the closest thing to online gaming was a LAN party. We had an internet cafe that would host them every weekend, BYOPC. If you got caught cheating/boosting/afk'ing (in some cases)/scripting/botting etc, your PC was taken outside and smashed on the concrete footpath. You were not compensated.

The problem, that is, is people who are playing for the SP/ISK/WP as if it means something. Does anyone ever play for competition or fun anymore? No, not really, games are all about how much fake stuff you can acquire with as little effort as possible.

You're not earning anything by afk'ing your rewards, you're not even earning the tears. The tears are cool, granted, but you're not doing anything to get them. The best tears are the ones you ring from your opponents with fists clenched, with some kind of effort. Rewards mean nothing without the effort, but when they're all pixels, at the end of the day, the mean nothing with the effort, as well, so it still all comes down to how much fun or competition you're getting out of the game.

What confuses me is, if you're getting neither, why are you wasting your time being on it at all?

Nah, this is just what's wrong with today's so-called 'gamers'. I remember when the closest thing to online gaming was a LAN party. We had an internet cafe that would host them every weekend, BYOPC. If you got caught cheating/boosting/afk'ing (in some cases)/scripting/botting etc, your PC was taken outside and smashed on the concrete footpath. You were not compensated.

The problem, that is, is people who are playing for the SP/ISK/WP as if it means something. Does anyone ever play for competition or fun anymore? No, not really, games are all about how much fake stuff you can acquire with as little effort as possible.

You're not earning anything by afk'ing your rewards, you're not even earning the tears. The tears are cool, granted, but you're not doing anything to get them. The best tears are the ones you ring from your opponents with fists clenched, with some kind of effort. Rewards mean nothing without the effort, but when they're all pixels, at the end of the day, the mean nothing with the effort, as well, so it still all comes down to how much fun or competition you're getting out of the game.

What confuses me is, if you're getting neither, why are you wasting your time being on it at all?

Can I be added to the list?

Wrong. I'm playing the game, and recording AFK players as I spawn, then going straight out to fight. Problem isn't solved until afk'ers either don't exist, are penalised, or players are given the tools by which to deal with them.

I will be AFK'ing until they fix the Aiming, FPS issues & Bumper Stickers we Mercs turn into from a lav going at 1 mph.

Feel free to capture 20 minutes of footage while i stand there, playing an FPS game on my PC that has 100 capped FPS and an aiming scheme that works so i can hit again with 90% accuracy, having the controlls nerfed to a point i dont even break 30% accuracy is completely rediculous.

So until this games becomes an actual FPS i will be in the MCC waiting, because i do like this game, its just unplayable right now and thats experience talking since 1992 when they released Wolfenstein.

Looking forward to be on Youtube!

sounds like console gaming isn't for you.

Sounds more like FPS games shouldnt be on a Console.

learn to pick up a controller

Me picking up a controller is going to fix the godawfull low FPS we got going how ?

Did not need one, by the way it is Couch potato , coaches are what motivate and lead a team. If any ones ego needs something, it clearly is yours with your claims for reason to afk. Like I said, maybe console games are not for you. , because it is not that far behind most console shooters.

I too wish to become e-famous. I must start afk farming in hopes of making it into this historical documentary!

Ditto, I will even shave for the occasion.

PD: Love how the mayority of people, who whine to afk farming would get facerolled by the afkers themselves, talking about stirring up the hive,

-_-

Take all the video footage you like sweetie, CCP will not and never punish players for AFKing.

Depends how you define punish. The issue is being looked at.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=695588#post695588

Recent CCP post in German but they are looking it. Pity. AFKing is useful at times.

punishing players and changing a system are two different things. they should do the latter but they wont do the former.

I hope he records me in secret... I just love being watched. Then if he puts me on youtube. I will be famous!

It may look like I'm afk in the mcc but I'm actually protecting it from invaders!

Due to the disgraceful wasted matches in which one side is outmatched simply because of afk'ers on their team, I have started video documentation of all afk players I find riding the match out in the MCC without contributing. Unlike MS, CCP have no rules against naming and shaming players, only rules against breaching their privacy, ie revealing their true IRL identity. When I have about five minutes of video, it will be published on YouTube for all players to see. Should CCP ever introduce friendly fire into all game types, other people who DO play the game will know exactly who to kill. Should certain corps not endorse the afk *cough* 'playstyle' *cough*, they will know who not to add. Should your CURRENT corp not endorse what you are doing, they will know who to boot.

Should CCP decide to take action against MCC AFK'ers, they will have good information on where to start.

But seriously CCP, start doing something about this situation soon please. I have no interest in playing this game if my team mates also have no interest.

I don't see any issues with it.

I prefer when we have AFK farmers on our team, if we must fight 8 vs 16 its all the better. The general player skill level in Dust is the lowest I've seen in any game. A random MAG bluedot would desimate the average Dust bluedot. The biggest problem with Skirmish IMO is all the boring games where you fight for 3 minutes and spend the next 10 trying to shoot snipers at the redline. Its extremely boring and borderlining game(mode)breaking for me.

Having AFK'ers on my team normally will make me have to fight against a larger number of enemies relative to my team's size and the game gets hectic and interresting.

So if you're ever on my team, please AFK farm as much as you want!

punishing players and changing a system are two different things. they should do the latter but they wont do the former.

because there is nothing more interesting in a dust video than watching someone stand around doing nothing!

Take all the video footage you like sweetie, CCP will not and never punish players for AFKing.

So you're saying that they won't punish players? What would you call the negative ISK fiasco? Oh, wait, that is right, they gave them the option to be put back to positive ISK if they gave back the ill-gotten goods/ISK.

Are you saying that they'll accidently give out SP to everyone and then take it back dropping some deep into SP debt and then normalize their totals without the AFK'd SP?

/sarcasm

I still want a shoving mechanic.

Oops, sorry, didn't mean to bump you out the hatch. Just activate your-- **splat** Oh, he must've really been AFK. Sorry (lol, not really)