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Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:03:00 -
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Due to the disgraceful wasted matches in which one side is outmatched simply because of afk'ers on their team, I have started video documentation of all afk players I find riding the match out in the MCC without contributing. Unlike MS, CCP have no rules against naming and shaming players, only rules against breaching their privacy, ie revealing their true IRL identity. When I have about five minutes of video, it will be published on YouTube for all players to see. Should CCP ever introduce friendly fire into all game types, other people who DO play the game will know exactly who to kill. Should certain corps not endorse the afk *cough* 'playstyle' *cough*, they will know who not to add. Should your CURRENT corp not endorse what you are doing, they will know who to boot.
Should CCP decide to take action against MCC AFK'ers, they will have good information on where to start.
But seriously CCP, start doing something about this situation soon please. I have no interest in playing this game if my team mates also have no interest. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:08:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:lol damn I thought MCC afk'ers was about Chromosome being boring, it carried over... But lol your seriously making a video over it... You are on the list of people taking drastic measures thinking they can stop the MCC camping.... BAHAHA that will happen.....
- GETH
If the game is boring, why be on it at all? Why not play something more interesting? You are screwing up other player's games with your presence and lack of contribution. If you don't want to play, get out, or get shamed.
Stop afk'ers? No, no intention of stopping them, and if friendly fire was enabled, I'd be shooting them. We're going to lose the match anyway, might as well get it done quickly, right? No, my intention is merely to shame. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
166
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:08:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Jaron Pollard wrote:Due to the disgraceful wasted matches in which one side is outmatched simply because of afk'ers on their team, I have started video documentation of all afk players I find riding the match out in the MCC without contributing. Unlike MS, CCP have no rules against naming and shaming players, only rules against breaching their privacy, ie revealing their true IRL identity. When I have about five minutes of video, it will be published on YouTube for all players to see. Should CCP ever introduce friendly fire into all game types, other people who DO play the game will know exactly who to kill. Should certain corps not endorse the afk *cough* 'playstyle' *cough*, they will know who not to add. Should your CURRENT corp not endorse what you are doing, they will know who to boot.
Should CCP decide to take action against MCC AFK'ers, they will have good information on where to start.
But seriously CCP, start doing something about this situation soon please. I have no interest in playing this game if my team mates also have no interest. CCP has closed MULTIPLE lists of people AFK farming. inb4lock.
I'm not putting the list here. It's going on YouTube. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
166
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:09:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Its just a game, you really should relax
Games are meant to be played. If you don't like it, don't play it. Play something else. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
166
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:11:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Jaron Pollard wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Jaron Pollard wrote:Due to the disgraceful wasted matches in which one side is outmatched simply because of afk'ers on their team, I have started video documentation of all afk players I find riding the match out in the MCC without contributing. Unlike MS, CCP have no rules against naming and shaming players, only rules against breaching their privacy, ie revealing their true IRL identity. When I have about five minutes of video, it will be published on YouTube for all players to see. Should CCP ever introduce friendly fire into all game types, other people who DO play the game will know exactly who to kill. Should certain corps not endorse the afk *cough* 'playstyle' *cough*, they will know who not to add. Should your CURRENT corp not endorse what you are doing, they will know who to boot.
Should CCP decide to take action against MCC AFK'ers, they will have good information on where to start.
But seriously CCP, start doing something about this situation soon please. I have no interest in playing this game if my team mates also have no interest. CCP has closed MULTIPLE lists of people AFK farming. inb4lock. I'm not putting the list here. It's going on YouTube. Well CCP won't ban them anyways simply because they haven't declared it an exploit.
That's because it's not an exploit, and they won't declare it one. But much like afk mining in EVE, they should give the players the tools to take care of it themselves. Most likely, it will be penalised eventually, but I would much rather see friendly fire enabled, or both. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
166
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:13:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Nothing wrong with AFK'ing. Sounds like you need to HTFU.
HA! Nice turn of phrase. However, I would suggest it is those who are afk'ing who need to HTFU. If they're too afraid to fight, why be on at all? |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
166
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:21:00 -
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Daylon Daxx wrote:So, while you are busy on your witch hunt video taping AFK'ers, how are YOU helping your team exactly?
IF I encounter them as I'm playing. And if there is no team, then what's the point? As far as I'm concerned, afk'ers are ruining the game for people who do enjoy it, and don't find it boring at all. If you don't like it, don't play it. Go back to COD. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
166
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:21:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Jaron Pollard wrote:Should certain corps not endorse the afk *cough* 'playstyle' *cough* I'm pretty sure that's not how that works...
Pretty sure player-run corps get to decide who they do and don't recruit, so that is exactly how it works. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
166
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:22:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:AFK in the MCC is the only way to enjoy this POS.
Ever thought of playing something else then? |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
166
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:27:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:Jaron Pollard wrote: But much like afk mining in EVE, they should give the players the tools to take care of it themselves. Most likely, it will be penalised eventually, but I would much rather see friendly fire enabled, or both. Exactly what tools are you talking about? Do you mean the ability for one player to blow up a miner who is afk? Fine I'll go along with that as long as we can treat pub matches as "high sec" matches in which CONCORD can come in and blast you for friendly fire and you get an additional 10 seconds added to your spawn timer. In which case, you have hurt your team three fold, since 1 you took a spawn from them by using FF, two you got killed by CONCORD losing the team another spawn, and three you've added another 10 seconds to your spawn timer, 10 seconds you could be making a difference instead of complaining about AFK'ers. Of course, there is another way. Stop complaining and just play. It's a pub match and has no bearing on events in the game so really does it matter? But now that it hits me, I actually like those rules for FF in matches when it is implemented. It would be funny as hell to see how teams react to getting punished by dumb players shooting their own team and oh the griefing that would be had, the tears would fall and our cups would runth over.
Agree with this to a degree, but I'm talking about setting up tools that are both within the spirit of New Eden, and also suitable for an FPS. Players messing up a match are essentially in breach of the "contract" they are under for the match, to whatever NPC corp has "hired" them for the job. In this case, if players are afk for a period, with FF enabled, they could be considered as assisting the enemy by refusing to fight, in which case they BECOME the enemy. Perhaps some way of sending them to the other team should be implemented if they are detected as afk for too long, or to a third 'team' of afk'ers that can be shot legally by everyone and anyone.
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Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
167
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:31:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Jaron Pollard wrote:Abron Garr wrote:AFK in the MCC is the only way to enjoy this POS. Ever thought of playing something else then? Yeah, I play Ambush. I'm also not foolish enough to ignore Dust completely because CCP is liable to do something with Dust that will actually have an effect on EVE. In the mean time let players exploit all the broken mechanics they can, it's the only way CCP is actually going to fix them.
I do have faith that CCP are going to fix this, but the mentality behind "I don't like this game, so I'm going to switch it on and leave my character sitting in the MCC while I..." do what exactly? Why not play something else that's more fun for you? I don't get it. It's like people are treating it as a 'job' they have to go to, but have found a way to slack off and still get paid instead of just finding a job they enjoy more.
Anyway, as it stands, I still intend to shame as many afk'ers as possible. They annoy me more than that one shotgun guy on the other team... and since I can still shoot that guy but can't do anything else about the afk'ers, I'll do the one thing I can do for now. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
167
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:32:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Why would you shame people for employing one of the few ways to enjoy this broken game?
Are you mad that not everyone splurges out of their jeans over DUST?
I don't even play, so I feel more on the side of the MCC afk'ers. Maybe if the game was worthwhile and fun to play we wouldn't have people spending time in the MCC...
Having it on but not playing it is enjoying it? Are you on crack?? |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:45:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:Jaron Pollard wrote:
Agree with this to a degree, but I'm talking about setting up tools that are both within the spirit of New Eden, and also suitable for an FPS. Players messing up a match are essentially in breach of the "contract" they are under for the match, to whatever NPC corp has "hired" them for the job. In this case, if players are afk for a period, with FF enabled, they could be considered as assisting the enemy by refusing to fight, in which case they BECOME the enemy. Perhaps some way of sending them to the other team should be implemented if they are detected as afk for too long, or to a third 'team' of afk'ers that can be shot legally by everyone and anyone.
While I am sure it isn't the case, I'm gonna give AFK'ers an excuse. Perhaps they are Roleplaying. Perhaps, they were hired by a corp to take a district from another corp. Since there are currently no mechanics in place to facilitate this, they afk, so as to gimp their team and cause a potential lose. Since they can't be paid by the other corp for causing a loss, they RP that the ISK they receive at the end of the match is indeed from the opposing corp. Let's also say that any salvage and SP that they got after the match was a bonus for a job well done. Purely BS on my part even saying that, however, the point is, it doesn't matter what other players are doing or not doing. You should be playing to have fun, not monitoring the actions of other players. If you want the role of monitoring other players, then perhaps you should apply to work at CCP. AFK'ing has always been a part of New Eden. Whether players like it or not, it is what it is. Why must you be the 1 millionth person to start a thread about it? You are acting as though CCP hasn't read this crap before or witnessed it for themselves. Perhaps there is already something in the plans to fix it, but they aren't saying anything until it is closer to being ready to deploy. Perhaps CCP has no interest in stopping it because, for the most part they have always allowed players to play their games the way the player wants too. In either case, there is nothing you can do to stop it and more threads complaining about it won't change anything until CCP chooses to change it. In the meantime, just play the game to have fun. Calling out these players isn't going to make a difference to anyone, most of us already know who these players are, so making a list, or video, or whatever else, isn't going to change anything. We can't kick them from the team, so what good is knowing them in the first place? It is at best a wasted effort that is fueled by some sort of internal rage you have going on. You've been trolled by afk'ers and they are laughing at you.
Oh noes! Poor me! I'm being laughed at, whatever shall I do??
Also, you can't count. There are definitely less than a million threads about afk'ers. And also, let's not forget the massive ban waves that went around on afk'ers for a number of FPS games in recent history. Maybe CCP will give me the last laugh when the next pile of threads about afk'ers is the one where they're bitching about getting permabanned from the game... who knows.
For now, I'm not the one causing a problem with the game. I would enjoy the game more if it weren't for the afk'ers. I like the game, whether I win or lose. That's why I play it. If you're only playing it to afk, I would suggest you have bigger problems than just being bored with this one game. Especially if you have options to play something else. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
167
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:48:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Jaron Pollard wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Its just a game, you really should relax Games are meant to be played. If you don't like it, don't play it. Play something else. You just contradicted yourself... Clearly Games are meant to be played, you over hear making videos of ingame characters being theoretically not controlled by the person because he or she is Literally AFK, AFK'ing. So play the game. Reason I say you are on the list is because In Chromosome build it started, a **** ton of people B-itched about others AFK'ing in the MCC. My advice stop crying over it, stop waisting your time with making videos, play the game... Problem solved... ps- I have no clue why you think I AFK, I never AFK, seams pointless. - Geth
Wrong. I'm playing the game, and recording AFK players as I spawn, then going straight out to fight. Problem isn't solved until afk'ers either don't exist, are penalised, or players are given the tools by which to deal with them. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
167
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Posted - 2013.06.07 04:26:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:OP, here's how it works:
SP > Tears > ISK > WP
AFK gets you plenty of the only two that matter. Lol
Nah, this is just what's wrong with today's so-called 'gamers'. I remember when the closest thing to online gaming was a LAN party. We had an internet cafe that would host them every weekend, BYOPC. If you got caught cheating/boosting/afk'ing (in some cases)/scripting/botting etc, your PC was taken outside and smashed on the concrete footpath. You were not compensated.
The problem, that is, is people who are playing for the SP/ISK/WP as if it means something. Does anyone ever play for competition or fun anymore? No, not really, games are all about how much fake stuff you can acquire with as little effort as possible.
You're not earning anything by afk'ing your rewards, you're not even earning the tears. The tears are cool, granted, but you're not doing anything to get them. The best tears are the ones you ring from your opponents with fists clenched, with some kind of effort. Rewards mean nothing without the effort, but when they're all pixels, at the end of the day, the mean nothing with the effort, as well, so it still all comes down to how much fun or competition you're getting out of the game.
What confuses me is, if you're getting neither, why are you wasting your time being on it at all? |
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