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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:34:00 -
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Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:39:00 -
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Nope, adjustments will be the norm. Respecs will not. Deal. |
Aquinarius Zoltanus
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:41:00 -
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..... They nerfed one single variation of AR, a weapon which already has 3 other variants that are all quite powerful (okay breach not as much).
But you think this means you should get to respec out of the whole tree? Sorry bud, but they said no more respecs and they should stick to it. Consider yourself lucky, some weapons don't even have different variants to try out, and a nerf means weakening the whole skill (I'm thinking of laser rifles). |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:41:00 -
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Bullshate changes withou free choise, not for me. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:43:00 -
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Well you can always leave. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
828
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:44:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Bullshate changes withou free choise, not for me. Awwww, should not have spec'd into AR if you needed the OP TAR to be effective. No sympathy for you at all. We like your tears. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
64
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:54:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Bullshate changes withou free choise, not for me. Awwww, should not have spec'd into AR if you needed the OP TAR to be effective. No sympathy for you at all. We like your tears. Delicious tears |
WhiteMage7322
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:56:00 -
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For 20k AUR you can erase your mistakes with a one time use Respec skillbook. Made a mistake? Got butthurt? Or maybe you regret something in your character but unlike life, you can re-do your character with only 20k AUR. |
Cpt Merdock
Ninth Legion Freelance
15
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:58:00 -
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Lilah Silverstone wrote:Well you can always leave.
hahaha im sorry..but this made me laugh |
Dengru
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:02:00 -
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What's wrong with getting multiple respecs? No need to be all condescending about the respecs cause y'all got ate alive by tac ARS. People might want to spec out of non-ar weapons (such as me) |
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Pilgrim Plymco
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:04:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Nope, adjustments will be the norm. Respecs will not. Deal.
Jin robot you sound like a real asshat right here since you have no clue of the poster's situation. He put in for the respec during the timeframe CCP allowed, he did it the right way (I gave him the same request a respec instructions I gave to everyone), and his respec never came through.
I swear some of the people on this forum are 30 going on 15 years old..... |
Pilgrim Plymco
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:06:00 -
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Lilah Silverstone wrote:Well you can always leave.
That attitude won't help CCP make money, if CCP doesn't make money we don't get cool new updates, think before you speak ;) |
ReGnYuM
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
104
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:08:00 -
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Pilgrim Plymco wrote:Lilah Silverstone wrote:Well you can always leave. That attitude won't help CCP make money, if CCP doesn't make money we don't get cool new updates, think before you speak ;)
YOU'RE MY MAG FORUM HERO ! |
martinofski
Les Rebelles A Qc
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:15:00 -
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LOL! I was expecting the "I wanna respec in the next OP weapon please, everytime there is a new fix." thread to show up.
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martinofski
Les Rebelles A Qc
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:19:00 -
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Pilgrim Plymco wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Nope, adjustments will be the norm. Respecs will not. Deal. Jin robot you sound like a real asshat right here since you have no clue of the poster's situation. He put in for the respec during the timeframe CCP allowed, he did it the right way (I gave him the same request a respec instructions I gave to everyone), and his respec never came through. He has been emailing CCP about it and getting no where...he was NEVER GIVEN HIS ONE RESPEC like everyone else. I swear some of the people on this forum are 30 going on 15 years old.....
That isn't what the OP said at all, making himself look like a 15yrs old.. just send a ticket. If you messed up your last optional respect, adapt or die (where is Solid Snake by the way?). |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
834
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:20:00 -
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Pilgrim Plymco wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Nope, adjustments will be the norm. Respecs will not. Deal. Jin robot you sound like a real asshat right here since you have no clue of the poster's situation. He put in for the respec during the timeframe CCP allowed, he did it the right way (I gave him the same request a respec instructions I gave to everyone), and his respec never came through. He has been emailing CCP about it and getting no where...he was NEVER GIVEN HIS ONE RESPEC like everyone else. I swear some of the people on this forum are 30 going on 15 years old..... Go read the OP again, I will wait...
What he requested was a pay for respec plan. It was not about one time respec. Your reading comprehension skills are lacking. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:41:00 -
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Pilgrim Plymco wrote:Lilah Silverstone wrote:Well you can always leave. That attitude won't help CCP make money, if CCP doesn't make money we don't get cool new updates, think before you speak ;)
CCP gets ma EVE bucks and I guarantee they make more off of EVE than Dust right now. On to your point though, forcing people who don't want to play to play is an equally bad attitude. People should not be obligated to continue to play a game if it gives them no joy. I enjoy this game and will continue to play it, I just don't see why you would if all it makes you want to do is forum rage :/ |
Pilgrim Plymco
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:50:00 -
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martinofski wrote:Pilgrim Plymco wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Nope, adjustments will be the norm. Respecs will not. Deal. Jin robot you sound like a real asshat right here since you have no clue of the poster's situation. He put in for the respec during the timeframe CCP allowed, he did it the right way (I gave him the same request a respec instructions I gave to everyone), and his respec never came through. He has been emailing CCP about it and getting no where...he was NEVER GIVEN HIS ONE RESPEC like everyone else. I swear some of the people on this forum are 30 going on 15 years old..... That isn't what the OP said at all, making himself look like a 15yrs old.. just send a ticket. If you messed up your last optional respect, adapt or die (where is Solid Snake by the way?).
He did send a ticket and english is not his first language hence how the post reads to those not used to his typing.
He first sent the respec ticket, then sent a ticket after the timeframe ended saying he never got it, then emailed back and forth, and still has not received the one respec CCP said we could all get after they changed the skill tree around.
HE NEVER GOT THE ONE OPTIONAL RESPEC WHEN PROPERLY REQUESTED (Sorry had to say it in all caps for you since you failed to comprehend what I originally typed) |
Pilgrim Plymco
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:51:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Pilgrim Plymco wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Nope, adjustments will be the norm. Respecs will not. Deal. Jin robot you sound like a real asshat right here since you have no clue of the poster's situation. He put in for the respec during the timeframe CCP allowed, he did it the right way (I gave him the same request a respec instructions I gave to everyone), and his respec never came through. He has been emailing CCP about it and getting no where...he was NEVER GIVEN HIS ONE RESPEC like everyone else. I swear some of the people on this forum are 30 going on 15 years old..... Go read the OP again, I will wait... What he requested was a pay for respec plan. It was not about one time respec. Your reading comprehension skills are lacking.
He was requesting it due to him not getting the one respec that he did request which CCP said we could all get, this is where his idea originated from. |
Pilgrim Plymco
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:53:00 -
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Lilah Silverstone wrote:Pilgrim Plymco wrote:Lilah Silverstone wrote:Well you can always leave. That attitude won't help CCP make money, if CCP doesn't make money we don't get cool new updates, think before you speak ;) CCP gets ma EVE bucks and I guarantee they make more off of EVE than Dust right now. On to your point though, forcing people who don't want to play to play is an equally bad attitude. People should not be obligated to continue to play a game if it gives them no joy. I enjoy this game and will continue to play it, I just don't see why you would if all it makes you want to do is forum rage :/
I agree, I would never want someone to keep playing a game they hate. The thing is the OP actually does like the game but when CCP changed the skill tree and the weapons it made his skill expendeture at the time unbearable to play with. He requested for the one optional respec CCP let us all get, then CCP never gave his character the respec. He then tried to continue to contact them about it and has still not received the respec nor a response from CCP as to why he has not been given what the rest of us got.
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Natu Nobilis
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
360
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:56:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff.
You get nothing. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1730
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:56:00 -
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Never going to happen on my watch |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:57:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff.
we need some backmusic for this thread. Rainy Eyes
Get good at pvp, start theory crafting, and sleep in the bed you make. I like respecs in other games but not here,
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:57:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Bullshate changes withou free choise, not for me.
Don't like it? Get the hell out of DUST. You are not meant to be a part of it if that is your view. |
RHYTHMIK Designs
BetaMax. CRONOS.
80
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:00:00 -
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You know what would stop all this respec talk? Buffing weaker weapons, instead of nerfing stronger weapons. |
Ditat Deus
GodsWolves
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:01:00 -
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I think 10 bucks real cash should be what it costs |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:10:00 -
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Ditat Deus wrote:I think 10 bucks real cash should be what it costs Never going to happen, thats pure pay to win right there. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:11:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Bullshate changes withou free choise, not for me. Awwww, should not have spec'd into AR if you needed the OP TAR to be effective. No sympathy for you at all. We like your tears.
I have MD boyo jokes on you |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:13:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Bullshate changes withou free choise, not for me. Don't like it? Get the hell out of DUST. You are not meant to be a part of it if that is your view.
i go from dust boyo dont worry, i dont need crapy p2w game
SONY GIVE ME MAG2 i-Śll pay for that, not for some crapy mediocre game like AR 514 - deathrace edition XD |
Pilgrim Plymco
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:13:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Never going to happen on my watch
Maybe you could actually find out why the guy was never given the original one respec he requested that CCP told us we could all get and many of us, such as myself, did. Would you look into that by any chance? |
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jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1731
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:23:00 -
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Pilgrim Plymco wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Never going to happen on my watch Maybe you could actually find out why the guy was never given the original one respec he requested that CCP told us we could all get and many of us, such as myself, did. Would you look into that by any chance? Thats a matter of customer survice, there are known issues where people who requested didnt get their respec, those poeple should file a petition or send a mail to [email protected] |
SILVERBACK 02
BetaMax. CRONOS.
106
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:26:00 -
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GOOD JOB |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:27:00 -
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Wish people would read the entire thread and stop cherry picking and making it all about that.
Paid for Respecs are bad. Once you hit 20 Mil SP you won't need anymore SP just real money.
However, if OP did not get the optional Respec that the rest of us requested and received then someone at CCP needs to tell him what is going on.
I have already read one thread where a Dev stated that a player should have received the Respec a week or 2 ago but didn't and they do not know why. So the Respecs are not going according to plan and just waiting isn't good enough as CCP schedule shows some players should have already received it but didn't and the player has no clue this has happened as CCP doesn't realise they did not process the Respec as scheduled.
At this point I am not even sure CCP knows who still requires a Respec and who has already received one without checking each players records on a case by case basis. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
1096
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:28:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff. Please see the discussion in this feedback thread: Most recent feedback thread on the subject.
Cheers, Cross |
DovKnight
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:43:00 -
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He isn't the only person who hasn't gotten the respec. Imo customer service sucks..so im done waiting and just started a new character. Thanks ccp for your lack of help, or better explaining why the rest of us have not recieved the respec. your acc has been flagged for respec means s*** when you do nothing further |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
320
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:45:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff. Please see the discussion in this feedback thread: Most recent feedback thread on the subject.Cheers, Cross I doubt he will bother, they rarely do...
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.06 22:07:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Pilgrim Plymco wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Never going to happen on my watch Maybe you could actually find out why the guy was never given the original one respec he requested that CCP told us we could all get and many of us, such as myself, did. Would you look into that by any chance? Thats a matter of customer survice, there are known issues where people who requested didnt get their respec, those poeple should file a petition or send a mail to [email protected]
Boyo it was sent 3x by myself and still nothing, actually how i told in thed DEVs thread not respec till end of next week, no Sam Tektzby in DUST 514 end of story. |
Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
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Posted - 2013.06.07 10:44:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Never going to happen on my watch hmm your funny miss lol. Your watch xD
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Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
2
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:49:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Ditat Deus wrote:I think 10 bucks real cash should be what it costs Never going to happen, thats pure pay to win right there.
Respec isnt pay to win , epic gear and weps you can buy with real money that are OP to isk weps and gear thats pay to win. Respec has nothing to do with paying to win.
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.06.14 01:15:00 -
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Oki CCP have just last 2 days, if i-Śll not receive respec (waiting for 1month+ now) i leaving dust. GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE CCP REALLY NICE.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
295
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Posted - 2013.06.14 01:22:00 -
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Lilah Silverstone wrote:Well you can always leave.
this option is used more and more frequently. thanks for the advice, you are helping your cause. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
295
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Posted - 2013.06.14 01:25:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Never going to happen on my watch
we well see it before the end. its dumb not to have it. when the last person walks out CCP will be begging to respec them |
dday3six
Intrepidus XI Omega Commission
3
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Posted - 2013.06.14 01:39:00 -
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Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week. |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.06.14 01:45:00 -
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dday3six wrote:Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week.
Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-Śre deaf to us..they-Śre deaf to game. alpha to omega |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
66
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Posted - 2013.06.14 01:55:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff. Meh, I'd rather them actually give the players who haven't received theirs a respec.
It's been almost a month since I've filed it and the only information I got after filing a ticket was that the DDoS attacks delayed mine. Maybe when I finally get mine they won't mess it up |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2682
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Posted - 2013.06.14 01:58:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Never going to happen on my watch we well see it before the end. its dumb not to have it. when the last person walks out CCP will be begging to respec them
Keep telling that to yourself. Whatever helps you sleep at night. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2682
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Posted - 2013.06.14 01:59:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:dday3six wrote:Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week. Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-Śre deaf to us..they-Śre deaf to game. alpha to omega
CCP doesn't listen to anything that has the potential to harm the economy. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.14 02:10:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:dday3six wrote:Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week. Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-Śre deaf to us..they-Śre deaf to game. alpha to omega CCP doesn't listen to anything that has the potential to harm the economy.
Maybe iam to "oldschool", but in days when games were original and awesome, doesnt mater on graphix etc. GAME WAS ABOUT GAMER not about PROFIT!!
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KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
76
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Posted - 2013.06.14 02:16:00 -
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So I heard (haven't confirmed yet) that guys who got missed in the first wave of respecs are getting with the 1.2 update. Seems fair you know they will have millions of sp to drop on new and racial variant stuff while everyone else will have to grind to get it. Just saying. |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.06.14 02:20:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:So I heard (haven't confirmed yet) that guys who got missed in the first wave of respecs are getting with the 1.2 update. Seems fair you know they will have millions of sp to drop on new and racial variant stuff while everyone else will have to grind to get it. Just saying.
Boyo from my side, i dont care, they told me something and THEY LIED!! THATS MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME |
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Smots Ju-Kyu
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.06.14 02:37:00 -
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Doesn't anyone even bother to glance at the stickied threads? The very first one is about the delays to the skill respecs and aur resets. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1909
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Posted - 2013.06.14 02:39:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Bullshate changes withou free choise, not for me. So you're saying you should be able to choose whether or not to accept changes to a weapon that broke the entire weapon set and made every other Light weapon useless?
Grow up. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1626
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Posted - 2013.06.14 02:42:00 -
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Jin, I hope that one day whatever you're using gets nerfed to the ground or suffers from a sever bug one day. I want to see how your "HTFU, Adapt or Die, New Eden, blah, blah, blah..." mantra will save you then. Not having respecs works in EVE Online because they actually have content and things are balanced, Dust 514 might as well still be in beta with the laughable balance and lack of content. Seriously, it's been a year and we only have 1 heavy suit with 2 heavy weapons which forces the devs to scale down that class to the standards of smaller frame suits and light weapons. |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.06.14 03:08:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Bullshate changes withou free choise, not for me. So you're saying you should be able to choose whether or not to accept changes to a weapon that broke the entire weapon set and made every other Light weapon useless? Grow up.
Grow up?! Fredom of choise is normal right, if you want be a puppet be a puppet. I dont want be puppet like you :)
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2683
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Posted - 2013.06.14 05:32:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:dday3six wrote:Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week. Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-Śre deaf to us..they-Śre deaf to game. alpha to omega CCP doesn't listen to anything that has the potential to harm the economy. Maybe iam to "oldschool", but in days when games were original and awesome, doesnt mater on graphix etc. GAME WAS ABOUT GAMER not about PROFIT!!
Not that economy.
I'm talking about the New Eden economy. You know, the one that we will merge into in the coming months or maybe next year. Respecs have a negative effect on the New Eden economy.
They create too much market shock as market traders won't have a clue on what suit or module to profit from or predict trends on. This alone can have a cascade effect that can hurt the player driven market. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2683
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Posted - 2013.06.14 05:35:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:So I heard (haven't confirmed yet) that guys who got missed in the first wave of respecs are getting with the 1.2 update. Seems fair you know they will have millions of sp to drop on new and racial variant stuff while everyone else will have to grind to get it. Just saying. Boyo from my side, i dont care, they told me something and THEY LIED!! THATS MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME
Hey dude. CCP didn't lie about that. They got delayed. Read the stickie threads for once. |
dday3six
Intrepidus XI Omega Commission
3
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Posted - 2013.06.14 06:18:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:dday3six wrote:Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week. Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-Śre deaf to us..they-Śre deaf to game. alpha to omega CCP doesn't listen to anything that has the potential to harm the economy. Maybe iam to "oldschool", but in days when games were original and awesome, doesnt mater on graphix etc. GAME WAS ABOUT GAMER not about PROFIT!! Not that economy. I'm talking about the New Eden economy. You know, the one that we will merge into in the coming months or maybe next year. Respecs have a negative effect on the New Eden economy. They create too much market shock as market traders won't have a clue on what suit or module to profit from or predict trends on. This alone can have a cascade effect that can hurt the player driven market.
By that same rationale balance changes, updates, patches etc are also bad for the proposed future economy. All it would do is allow players to profit from popular items and/or resources for a longer period of time while the playerbase adjusted and skilled toward the next big thing or balance changes, updates, patches etc changed the meta. Ability to respec would just need to be factored in as dominate strategies were formed and countered. Not having respecs just simplifies the system allowing market traders to be less informed and still turn a profit from slow skill tree progression.
It's honestly likely that CCP just doesn't want to deal with changes to infomation stored server side. |
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:58:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:So I heard (haven't confirmed yet) that guys who got missed in the first wave of respecs are getting with the 1.2 update. Seems fair you know they will have millions of sp to drop on new and racial variant stuff while everyone else will have to grind to get it. Just saying. Boyo from my side, i dont care, they told me something and THEY LIED!! THATS MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME Hey dude. CCP didn't lie about that. They got delayed. Read the stickie threads for once.
They lied, they sent me message "in five days" and i waited for month now. I sent message about respec log time before 31st. Long time before DDoS. They lied about five days, i sent another message and they told me it will be really soon, nothing again, then i sent another one and they "appreciated my concesn". WTH is this for answer?! Just playing with words and lies, thats end of story. |
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:03:00 -
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@dday3six
Then explain how Eve Online has been doing just fine under this concept without suffering much if any market shock, genius. |
dday3six
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:28:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@dday3six
Then explain how Eve Online has been doing just fine under this concept without suffering much if any market shock, genius.
How long has Eve been doing just fine with it's 10 year head start? It's also got people who are pouring massive amounts of whatever currency their country spends into it. People tend to be less apt to put something down if they've made an investment in it. However this is Dust, not Eve. While Eve and Dust exist in the same universe, they are not the same game, and they are not subject to "What works in Eve, therefore must work in Dust". The playerbase is different, the gameplay style is different. Players seriously need to stop hiding behind Eve as a shield from criticisms about Dust. |
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:26:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Pilgrim Plymco wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Never going to happen on my watch Maybe you could actually find out why the guy was never given the original one respec he requested that CCP told us we could all get and many of us, such as myself, did. Would you look into that by any chance? Thats a matter of customer survice, there are known issues where people who requested didnt get their respec, those poeple should file a petition or send a mail to [email protected]
This is what the individual who has made this thread has done, more than one time now.
1) They did the respec request during the time CCP allotted to do so. 2) They did not receive a respec up until as recent as last night (15 hours ago), 3) They had re-emailed CCP @ [email protected] inquiring about the lack of a respec. CCP's email told him they would look into it and it would be 2 weeks at most, this was about 5 weeks ago, still nothing. 4) He has followed up several times with the email and still has not received help.
At this point it doesn't matter, I know Sam and he donated all his isk to the corp and deleted the game after waiting several weeks for an answer to his followup, on his followup, of his original request.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:51:00 -
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dday3six wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@dday3six
Then explain how Eve Online has been doing just fine under this concept without suffering much if any market shock, genius. How long has Eve been doing just fine with it's 10 year head start? It's also got people who are pouring massive amounts of whatever currency their country spends into it. People tend to be less apt to put something down if they've made an investment in it. However this is Dust, not Eve. While Eve and Dust exist in the same universe, they are not the same game, and they are not subject to "What works in Eve, therefore must work in Dust". The playerbase is different, the gameplay style is different. Players seriously need to stop hiding behind Eve as a shield from criticisms about Dust.
There are a lot of things in Eve that don't work in Dust. However, there are three things that are absolute and are not subject to change regardless of what culture it is in. They are:
1. Adapt or die.
2. Don't use what you can't afford to lose.
3. Accept the permanent consequences of your choices.
These are the rules of New Eden. Otherwise known as the core principles of New Eden. These rules are the supreme laws of the land and space. You can go ahead and advocate other changes for all I care, but don't expect to be able to change these three rules. |
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:39:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:dday3six wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@dday3six
Then explain how Eve Online has been doing just fine under this concept without suffering much if any market shock, genius. How long has Eve been doing just fine with it's 10 year head start? It's also got people who are pouring massive amounts of whatever currency their country spends into it. People tend to be less apt to put something down if they've made an investment in it. However this is Dust, not Eve. While Eve and Dust exist in the same universe, they are not the same game, and they are not subject to "What works in Eve, therefore must work in Dust". The playerbase is different, the gameplay style is different. Players seriously need to stop hiding behind Eve as a shield from criticisms about Dust. There are a lot of things in Eve that don't work in Dust. However, there are three things that are absolute and are not subject to change regardless of what culture it is in. They are: 1. Adapt or die. 2. Don't use what you can't afford to lose. 3. Accept the permanent consequences of your choices. These are the rules of New Eden. Otherwise known as the core principles of New Eden. These rules are the supreme laws of the land and space. You can go ahead and advocate other changes for all I care, but don't expect to be able to change these three rules.
Number 1 and 2 I don't have a problem with, it's #3 that's my issue. Permanent consequences when the whole or at least most of the picture are visable is one thing. However we have placeholders for not only unreleased weapons but also the passive skills of specialized dropsuits besides lacking all racial and other dropsuits. Gear is horrendously balanced and subject to continual shifts until ironed out. We've sparse info released on what's even coming out, or updates as to when. A player's ability to judge what the consequences are is severely hindered by the unknown. And what's the answer, hoard SP for an undetermined length of time. Play longer, one day you'll be able to spec into the what really interests you.
Since the game's clearly unpolished, a respec option until it's at least Dust is more refined, so players would have a better imagine of what the consequences, would go a long way. |
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