DUST Search - OPTIONAL RESPEC

Maken Tosch wrote:

Sam Tektzby wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Sam Tektzby wrote:

dday3six wrote:

Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week.

Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-¦re deaf to us..they-¦re deaf to game.
alpha to omega

CCP doesn't listen to anything that has the potential to harm the economy.

Maybe iam to "oldschool", but in days when games were original and awesome, doesnt mater on graphix etc. GAME WAS ABOUT GAMER not about PROFIT!!

Not that economy.

I'm talking about the New Eden economy. You know, the one that we will merge into in the coming months or maybe next year. Respecs have a negative effect on the New Eden economy.

They create too much market shock as market traders won't have a clue on what suit or module to profit from or predict trends on. This alone can have a cascade effect that can hurt the player driven market.

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jenza aranda BetaMax. CRONOS. 1731	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:23:00 - [31] - Quote Pilgrim Plymco wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Never going to happen on my watch Maybe you could actually find out why the guy was never given the original one respec he requested that CCP told us we could all get and many of us, such as myself, did. Would you look into that by any chance? Thats a matter of customer survice, there are known issues where people who requested didnt get their respec, those poeple should file a petition or send a mail to [email protected]
SILVERBACK 02 BetaMax. CRONOS. 106	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:26:00 - [32] - Quote GOOD JOB
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 113	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:27:00 - [33] - Quote Wish people would read the entire thread and stop cherry picking and making it all about that. Paid for Respecs are bad. Once you hit 20 Mil SP you won't need anymore SP just real money. However, if OP did not get the optional Respec that the rest of us requested and received then someone at CCP needs to tell him what is going on. I have already read one thread where a Dev stated that a player should have received the Respec a week or 2 ago but didn't and they do not know why. So the Respecs are not going according to plan and just waiting isn't good enough as CCP schedule shows some players should have already received it but didn't and the player has no clue this has happened as CCP doesn't realise they did not process the Respec as scheduled. At this point I am not even sure CCP knows who still requires a Respec and who has already received one without checking each players records on a case by case basis.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention 1096	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:28:00 - [34] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff. Please see the discussion in this feedback thread: Most recent feedback thread on the subject. Cheers, Cross
DovKnight Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:43:00 - [35] - Quote He isn't the only person who hasn't gotten the respec. Imo customer service sucks..so im done waiting and just started a new character. Thanks ccp for your lack of help, or better explaining why the rest of us have not recieved the respec. your acc has been flagged for respec means s*** when you do nothing further
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Orion Empire 320	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:45:00 - [36] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff. Please see the discussion in this feedback thread: Most recent feedback thread on the subject. Cheers, Cross I doubt he will bother, they rarely do...
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 18	Posted - 2013.06.06 22:07:00 - [37] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Pilgrim Plymco wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Never going to happen on my watch Maybe you could actually find out why the guy was never given the original one respec he requested that CCP told us we could all get and many of us, such as myself, did. Would you look into that by any chance? Thats a matter of customer survice, there are known issues where people who requested didnt get their respec, those poeple should file a petition or send a mail to [email protected] Boyo it was sent 3x by myself and still nothing, actually how i told in thed DEVs thread not respec till end of next week, no Sam Tektzby in DUST 514 end of story.
Dysnomia Pandora Third Rock From The Sun 2	Posted - 2013.06.07 10:44:00 - [38] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Never going to happen on my watch hmm your funny miss lol. Your watch xD
Dysnomia Pandora Third Rock From The Sun 2	Posted - 2013.06.07 11:49:00 - [39] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Ditat Deus wrote: I think 10 bucks real cash should be what it costs Never going to happen, thats pure pay to win right there. Respec isnt pay to win , epic gear and weps you can buy with real money that are OP to isk weps and gear thats pay to win. Respec has nothing to do with paying to win.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 18	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:15:00 - [40] - Quote Oki CCP have just last 2 days, if i-¦ll not receive respec (waiting for 1month+ now) i leaving dust. GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE CCP REALLY NICE.

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 295	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:22:00 - [41] - Quote Lilah Silverstone wrote: Well you can always leave. this option is used more and more frequently. thanks for the advice, you are helping your cause.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 295	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:25:00 - [42] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Never going to happen on my watch we well see it before the end. its dumb not to have it. when the last person walks out CCP will be begging to respec them
dday3six Intrepidus XI Omega Commission 3	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:39:00 - [43] - Quote Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 18	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:45:00 - [44] - Quote dday3six wrote: Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week. Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-¦re deaf to us..they-¦re deaf to game. alpha to omega
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Unclaimed. 66	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:55:00 - [45] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff. Meh, I'd rather them actually give the players who haven't received theirs a respec. It's been almost a month since I've filed it and the only information I got after filing a ticket was that the DDoS attacks delayed mine. Maybe when I finally get mine they won't mess it up
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2682	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:58:00 - [46] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Never going to happen on my watch we well see it before the end. its dumb not to have it. when the last person walks out CCP will be begging to respec them Keep telling that to yourself. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2682	Posted - 2013.06.14 01:59:00 - [47] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: dday3six wrote: Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week. Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-¦re deaf to us..they-¦re deaf to game. alpha to omega CCP doesn't listen to anything that has the potential to harm the economy.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 18	Posted - 2013.06.14 02:10:00 - [48] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: dday3six wrote: Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week. Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-¦re deaf to us..they-¦re deaf to game. alpha to omega CCP doesn't listen to anything that has the potential to harm the economy. Maybe iam to "oldschool", but in days when games were original and awesome, doesnt mater on graphix etc. GAME WAS ABOUT GAMER not about PROFIT!!
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Orion Empire 76	Posted - 2013.06.14 02:16:00 - [49] - Quote So I heard (haven't confirmed yet) that guys who got missed in the first wave of respecs are getting with the 1.2 update. Seems fair you know they will have millions of sp to drop on new and racial variant stuff while everyone else will have to grind to get it. Just saying.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 18	Posted - 2013.06.14 02:20:00 - [50] - Quote KOBLAKA1 wrote: So I heard (haven't confirmed yet) that guys who got missed in the first wave of respecs are getting with the 1.2 update. Seems fair you know they will have millions of sp to drop on new and racial variant stuff while everyone else will have to grind to get it. Just saying. Boyo from my side, i dont care, they told me something and THEY LIED!! THATS MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME

Smots Ju-Kyu The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 35	Posted - 2013.06.14 02:37:00 - [51] - Quote Doesn't anyone even bother to glance at the stickied threads? The very first one is about the delays to the skill respecs and aur resets.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1909	Posted - 2013.06.14 02:39:00 - [52] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Bullshate changes withou free choise, not for me. So you're saying you should be able to choose whether or not to accept changes to a weapon that broke the entire weapon set and made every other Light weapon useless? Grow up.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1626	Posted - 2013.06.14 02:42:00 - [53] - Quote Jin, I hope that one day whatever you're using gets nerfed to the ground or suffers from a sever bug one day. I want to see how your "HTFU, Adapt or Die, New Eden, blah, blah, blah..." mantra will save you then. Not having respecs works in EVE Online because they actually have content and things are balanced, Dust 514 might as well still be in beta with the laughable balance and lack of content. Seriously, it's been a year and we only have 1 heavy suit with 2 heavy weapons which forces the devs to scale down that class to the standards of smaller frame suits and light weapons.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 18	Posted - 2013.06.14 03:08:00 - [54] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Bullshate changes withou free choise, not for me. So you're saying you should be able to choose whether or not to accept changes to a weapon that broke the entire weapon set and made every other Light weapon useless? Grow up. Grow up?! Fredom of choise is normal right, if you want be a puppet be a puppet. I dont want be puppet like you :)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2683	Posted - 2013.06.14 05:32:00 - [55] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: dday3six wrote: Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week. Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-¦re deaf to us..they-¦re deaf to game. alpha to omega CCP doesn't listen to anything that has the potential to harm the economy. Maybe iam to "oldschool", but in days when games were original and awesome, doesnt mater on graphix etc. GAME WAS ABOUT GAMER not about PROFIT!! Not that economy. I'm talking about the New Eden economy. You know, the one that we will merge into in the coming months or maybe next year. Respecs have a negative effect on the New Eden economy. They create too much market shock as market traders won't have a clue on what suit or module to profit from or predict trends on. This alone can have a cascade effect that can hurt the player driven market.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2683	Posted - 2013.06.14 05:35:00 - [56] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: KOBLAKA1 wrote: So I heard (haven't confirmed yet) that guys who got missed in the first wave of respecs are getting with the 1.2 update. Seems fair you know they will have millions of sp to drop on new and racial variant stuff while everyone else will have to grind to get it. Just saying. Boyo from my side, i dont care, they told me something and THEY LIED!! THATS MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME Hey dude. CCP didn't lie about that. They got delayed. Read the stickie threads for once.
dday3six Intrepidus XI Omega Commission 3	Posted - 2013.06.14 06:18:00 - [57] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: dday3six wrote: Personally I think some sort of respec would be a good idea to help the game's meta to evolve at a faster reactive rate. However I think it should be limited by some combination of increasing cost per use, a timer similar to character termination and/or a limit on how many can be done per week. Exactly how i told, for some cost. But CCP dont listening, they-¦re deaf to us..they-¦re deaf to game. alpha to omega CCP doesn't listen to anything that has the potential to harm the economy. Maybe iam to "oldschool", but in days when games were original and awesome, doesnt mater on graphix etc. GAME WAS ABOUT GAMER not about PROFIT!! Not that economy. I'm talking about the New Eden economy. You know, the one that we will merge into in the coming months or maybe next year. Respecs have a negative effect on the New Eden economy. They create too much market shock as market traders won't have a clue on what suit or module to profit from or predict trends on. This alone can have a cascade effect that can hurt the player driven market. By that same rationale balance changes, updates, patches etc are also bad for the proposed future economy. All it would do is allow players to profit from popular items and/or resources for a longer period of time while the playerbase adjusted and skilled toward the next big thing or balance changes, updates, patches etc changed the meta. Ability to respec would just need to be factored in as dominate strategies were formed and countered. Not having respecs just simplifies the system allowing market traders to be less informed and still turn a profit from slow skill tree progression. It's honestly likely that CCP just doesn't want to deal with changes to infomation stored server side.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 18	Posted - 2013.06.15 19:58:00 - [58] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: KOBLAKA1 wrote: So I heard (haven't confirmed yet) that guys who got missed in the first wave of respecs are getting with the 1.2 update. Seems fair you know they will have millions of sp to drop on new and racial variant stuff while everyone else will have to grind to get it. Just saying. Boyo from my side, i dont care, they told me something and THEY LIED!! THATS MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME Hey dude. CCP didn't lie about that. They got delayed. Read the stickie threads for once. They lied, they sent me message "in five days" and i waited for month now. I sent message about respec log time before 31st. Long time before DDoS. They lied about five days, i sent another message and they told me it will be really soon, nothing again, then i sent another one and they "appreciated my concesn". WTH is this for answer?! Just playing with words and lies, thats end of story.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2695	Posted - 2013.06.15 20:03:00 - [59] - Quote @dday3six Then explain how Eve Online has been doing just fine under this concept without suffering much if any market shock, genius.
dday3six Intrepidus XI Omega Commission 5	Posted - 2013.06.15 20:28:00 - [60] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: @dday3six Then explain how Eve Online has been doing just fine under this concept without suffering much if any market shock, genius. How long has Eve been doing just fine with it's 10 year head start? It's also got people who are pouring massive amounts of whatever currency their country spends into it. People tend to be less apt to put something down if they've made an investment in it. However this is Dust, not Eve. While Eve and Dust exist in the same universe, they are not the same game, and they are not subject to "What works in Eve, therefore must work in Dust". The playerbase is different, the gameplay style is different. Players seriously need to stop hiding behind Eve as a shield from criticisms about Dust.



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