DUST Search - DROPSHIPS AND YOU .....

Felix Faraday wrote:

DJINN Haku wrote:

Now as you all know i am the dropship king and as such i feel it right to tell any interested in learning to fly or willing to fly
that the new assault dropships are not worth the 3mil it takes to max them out if you feel otherwise post why. I took the time
to max them out as well as all turrets and all modules related to them i have all defensive skills maxed out to support its survivability on the battlefield. Even the most hardened python dies to 1 hit from a adv railgun or 2 hits from proto assault forge guns so if you intend to follow me into the sky's its on you to take the pros and cones into mind and weigh them wisely.

for those who are going to post here know that i write this to help not discourage and all who ask me for help in dust will receive it .

(BTW IF YOU WANT TO LEARN TO FLY ILL TEACH YOU FREE OF CHARGE JUST ASK)
(BRING YOUR OWN VIPERS FOR THE CLASS)

1) It takes more like ~6mil SP to max all the useful Assault Dropship skills.

2) Be reasonable, it takes 2 rail shots to kill a Python. Not that it matters, that second shot will land ~2 seconds or less after the first, good luck getting up to speed or doing anything useful in that time.

3) Let me discourage them then. Dropships are not worth it in their current state. It's a brief moment of "that was cool", followed by nothing but frustration.

4) And WTF are you fitting that makes your ADS cost 1.9mil? That's over twice the cost of mine.

Have fun sharing the skies with insta-death RDVs and immortal redline rail tanks.

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DJINN Haku Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.06.06 11:27:00 - [1] - Quote Now as you all know i am the dropship king and as such i feel it right to tell any interested in learning to fly or willing to fly that the new assault dropships are not worth the 3mil it takes to max them out if you feel otherwise post why. I took the time to max them out as well as all turrets and all modules related to them i have all defensive skills maxed out to support its survivability on the battlefield. Even the most hardened python dies to 1 hit from a adv railgun or 2 hits from proto assault forge guns so if you intend to follow me into the sky's its on you to take the pros and cones into mind and weigh them wisely. for those who are going to post here know that i write this to help not discourage and all who ask me for help in dust will receive it . (BTW IF YOU WANT TO LEARN TO FLY ILL TEACH YOU FREE OF CHARGE JUST ASK) (BRING YOUR OWN VIPERS FOR THE CLASS)
Azura Sakura Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 64	Posted - 2013.06.06 11:30:00 - [2] - Quote Have you maxed out Logi Drop ships?
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 538	Posted - 2013.06.06 11:32:00 - [3] - Quote So... your saying Dropships are broken... i dont know why, but that sounds familiar...?
DJINN Haku Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.06.06 11:35:00 - [4] - Quote i placed 1 point into them since the skill didn't promote a need for more points in my personal opinion i think they need work there's just no actual use for them outside a pub match.
DJINN Haku Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.06.06 11:36:00 - [5] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: So... your saying Dropships are broken... i dont know why, but that sounds familiar...? yes sir i am saying that and yes sounds like old times
Foxhound Elite Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 157	Posted - 2013.06.06 11:37:00 - [6] - Quote Ha, Dropship king.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1173	Posted - 2013.06.06 11:45:00 - [7] - Quote No **** sherlock
DJINN Haku Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.06.06 11:47:00 - [8] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: No **** sherlock was there a point for that besides being on my forum
Foxhound Elite Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 157	Posted - 2013.06.06 11:50:00 - [9] - Quote OP See https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=803785#post803785
DJINN Haku Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.06.06 11:58:00 - [10] - Quote Foxhound Elite wrote: OP See https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=803785#post803785 i like you story but you forgot railgun sicas and somas free tanks 1 shotting 1.9 mil pythons
Felix Faraday KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 53	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:36:00 - [11] - Quote DJINN Haku wrote: Now as you all know i am the dropship king and as such i feel it right to tell any interested in learning to fly or willing to fly that the new assault dropships are not worth the 3mil it takes to max them out if you feel otherwise post why. I took the time to max them out as well as all turrets and all modules related to them i have all defensive skills maxed out to support its survivability on the battlefield. Even the most hardened python dies to 1 hit from a adv railgun or 2 hits from proto assault forge guns so if you intend to follow me into the sky's its on you to take the pros and cones into mind and weigh them wisely. for those who are going to post here know that i write this to help not discourage and all who ask me for help in dust will receive it . (BTW IF YOU WANT TO LEARN TO FLY ILL TEACH YOU FREE OF CHARGE JUST ASK) (BRING YOUR OWN VIPERS FOR THE CLASS) 1) It takes more like ~6mil SP to max all the useful Assault Dropship skills. 2) Be reasonable, it takes 2 rail shots to kill a Python. Not that it matters, that second shot will land ~2 seconds or less after the first, good luck getting up to speed or doing anything useful in that time. 3) Let me discourage them then. Dropships are not worth it in their current state. It's a brief moment of "that was cool", followed by nothing but frustration. Have fun sharing the skies with insta-death RDVs and immortal redline rail tanks.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 607	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:38:00 - [12] - Quote DJINN Haku wrote: in my personal opinion i think they need work there's just no actual use for them on any of the present maps Fixed that for you.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 541	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:39:00 - [13] - Quote Felix Faraday wrote: DJINN Haku wrote: Now as you all know i am the dropship king and as such i feel it right to tell any interested in learning to fly or willing to fly that the new assault dropships are not worth the 3mil it takes to max them out if you feel otherwise post why. I took the time to max them out as well as all turrets and all modules related to them i have all defensive skills maxed out to support its survivability on the battlefield. Even the most hardened python dies to 1 hit from a adv railgun or 2 hits from proto assault forge guns so if you intend to follow me into the sky's its on you to take the pros and cones into mind and weigh them wisely. for those who are going to post here know that i write this to help not discourage and all who ask me for help in dust will receive it . (BTW IF YOU WANT TO LEARN TO FLY ILL TEACH YOU FREE OF CHARGE JUST ASK) (BRING YOUR OWN VIPERS FOR THE CLASS) 1) It takes more like ~6mil SP to max all the useful Assault Dropship skills. 2) Be reasonable, it takes 2 rail shots to kill a Python. Not that it matters, that second shot will land ~2 seconds or less after the first, good luck getting up to speed or doing anything useful in that time. 3) Let me discourage them then. Dropships are not worth it in their current state. It's a brief moment of "that was cool", followed by nothing but frustration. 4) And WTF are you fitting that makes your ADS cost 1.9mil? That's over twice the cost of mine. Have fun sharing the skies with insta-death RDVs and immortal redline rail tanks. you forgot 'can be anywhere' Forge Guns
Rynoceros One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 97	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:55:00 - [14] - Quote Ain't gravity a b****?
Appia Vibbia Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 40	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:16:00 - [15] - Quote The HP on LAVs and Dropships needs to be reversed. My does my little baloc have more HP than dropships (before mods)?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3438	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:20:00 - [16] - Quote Azura Sakura wrote: Have you maxed out Logi Drop ships? No point, the bonus is garbage. Just put 1 rank in it and it's pretty much the same as having 5 ranks in it Thankfully my dropship doesn't die to stupid things anymore because I RESPEC'D :p
TEBOW BAGGINS Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 584	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:21:00 - [17] - Quote the odd nose cannon kill is extremely rewarding, and sometimes they can serve as an anti tank unit as long as it's not a railtank. but yea, a waste of 3 mil skill points aside from the occasional anti tank kill, that dependent on the ground forces keeping the FG at bay. by the time the RDV arrives someones already ran to the furthest point which isn't far enough to justify air transport.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3438	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:24:00 - [18] - Quote Militia dropships + Vehicle Recall + Tiny Maps + Useless top end Dropships = No reason to ever put a single SP into dropships. Ever.
TEBOW BAGGINS Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 584	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:29:00 - [19] - Quote does anyone know why the stats on the militia afterburner are exactly the same as the standard one? does the standard one give more boost?
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 147	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:30:00 - [20] - Quote I have lv1 Caldari Assault DSes but I take 3 Ishuke Assault FG hits sometimes 4, railguns are 2 sometimes 3.
martinofski Les Rebelles A Qc 170	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:30:00 - [21] - Quote In the academy, the DS feel exactly how it should be for its resistance. I had a Myron and was doing pretty good, at least you can hover over the reddots for much longer, get about 15 kills per gunners in a skirmish. Perfect place to learn flying. The problem is when you hit 10,000WP like I did yesterday, your DS really hit a brick wall at that moment. But you can fly around for a much longer time if you stay alone in your DS all games, not earning any WP. In the academy, my DS survived about 3-4 games average. Then, in regular skirmish, I had the time to call it, takeoff, and as soon as I got close to the action, I was dead. Much more forge gunners and good swarm launchers. So you basically need to stay out of the action, not get attention of anybody. Really, CCP should try the Myron in the academy fitted with lvl1 on most modules and turret, then compare with one in a skirmish with more advanced player around. There is a huge difference.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 147	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:31:00 - [22] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: does anyone know why the stats on the militia afterburner are exactly the same as the standard one? does the standard one give more boost? maybe its how long it lasts and its recharge rate, its almost 24/7 in the STD version, recharges like a scanner.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 147	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:33:00 - [23] - Quote upgrading a DS role isn`t for the stats, that a bonus, at lv3 you will (soon) get the ADV role variant and at lv5 you will get the PRO role variant.
ER-Bullitt Elements Of Death Elite 5	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:17:00 - [24] - Quote Hello Djinn Haku, I have been pondering speccing into Dropships to give a go at Assault flying. Being a fan of choppers in BF3 I enjoy the freedom of aerial vehicles and thoroughly enjoy that aspect of the game. With that said, i know the assault dropships have their pros and cons and would appreciate a quick reference guide, or skill plan, for the aspiring dropship pilot. I am awaiting a respec and have zero knowledge on what works and what doesnt regarding mods and turrets. I know how to fly and figured out the controls quickly due to past experience. Any input you can provide would be appreciated. A complete skill point allocation guide would be ideal.. but understand if that is asking too much. Thanks in advance.
Nguruthos IV Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:00:00 - [25] - Quote I was flying yesterday in an assault DS which at the time had the highest achievable EHP that any DS can have in the game. I was astonished when a rail gun tank killed me in less than three seconds with two single blasts. The turret installations usually hurt enough and with the destabilization after the first hit, plus the fact it comes out of nowhere I can guarantee you that no pilot will ever have a counter to survive that kind of red-line rail-tank BS of a hit. Also lost another 20 million to RDV's spawning inside me. Followed by last week -30 million. I won't be playing dust past cap. I have serious reservations about spending an additional cent on this game and may just burn out before I go broke... Which at this rate isn't long. Aspiring pilots, you have been warned. It's an SP trap and a fruitless ISK drain from the most infuriatingly unstoppable BS a game designer could throw at you. PS. This myriad of bugs still exists too lol. Sans perhaps the prices being decreased like last week by (more like approximately 1/3rd) but that's approx half for CCP I guess.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3444	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:03:00 - [26] - Quote Nguruthos IV wrote: Aspiring pilots, you have been warned. It's an SP trap and a fruitless ISK drain from the most infuriatingly unstoppable BS a game designer could throw at you. For those who failed to fix their accounts by requesting a skill respec.... God Speed At least your ships will be dropping, that's gotta count for something
Nguruthos IV Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:08:00 - [27] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Nguruthos IV wrote: Aspiring pilots, you have been warned. It's an SP trap and a fruitless ISK drain from the most infuriatingly unstoppable BS a game designer could throw at you. For those who failed to fix their accounts by requesting a skill respec.... God Speed At least your ships will be dropping, that's gotta count for something For me there was no choice. I hate FPS gun-play in games and figured I'd see just how bad these were after the changes then decide whether or not to stick around. Well, they're bad It's not like you and I didn't both know that going in but at least now I can speak first hand from the suicide-machine's perspective whereas all you know for certain is how laughably simple it is to forge snipe a million bux out of the air. :P
SILVERBACK 02 BetaMax. CRONOS. 107	Posted - 2013.06.06 21:58:00 - [28] - Quote im the best dropship pilot on this game. and only i hold that title.
Nguruthos IV Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2013.06.06 23:04:00 - [29] - Quote What's a good video cap thing so I can make an RDV montage to dissuade anyone from trying to fly?
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2055	Posted - 2013.06.06 23:36:00 - [30] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Hello Djinn Haku, I have been pondering speccing into Dropships to give a go at Assault flying. Being a fan of choppers in BF3 I enjoy the freedom of aerial vehicles and thoroughly enjoy that aspect of the game. With that said, i know the assault dropships have their pros and cons and would appreciate a quick reference guide, or skill plan, for the aspiring dropship pilot. I am awaiting a respec and have zero knowledge on what works and what doesnt regarding mods and turrets. I know how to fly and figured out the controls quickly due to past experience. Any input you can provide would be appreciated. A complete skill point allocation guide would be ideal.. but understand if that is asking too much. Thanks in advance. The simple answer is don't. They're a waste so sp and ISK, who's only actual intended role is actually fulfilled better by the free LAV's running around, which just to add insult to injury, have better survivability too. But if your really determined to pursue this madness here goes. Turret operations lv5 Missile turrets lv5 Hybrid turrets lv5 (only if you want to, missiles are the only real viable turrets for an ads) Vehicle command lv3 Racial dropship lv3 Racial assault dropship lv1 Vehicle upgrades lv2 Vehicle core upgrades lv4 Vehicle turret upgrades lv1 Vehicle manuoevering lv3 Vehicle electronics lv5 Vehicle engineering lv4 Vehicle shield upgrades lv5 Vehicle armour upgrades lv5 Shield adaption lv3 Shield boost systems lv3 Vehicle shield extension lv5 Vehicle shield recharging lv1 Vehicle armour adaption lv3 Vehicle armour plating lv3 Vehicle armour repairing lv3 That's my current vehicle skill layout and will unlock just about every available module, it'll also give you a decent effectiveness from whatever you stick on your dropship. I recommend you only focus on shields or armour skills to start with , depending on your race choice.

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