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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:08:00 -
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Having all 4 races have their own melee weapon is great, but if they're all knives then the variety is lost. Instead of each race getting some knives, give them each their own sort of melee weapon.
Minmatar could get badass predator claws for example (pretty please) |
Karras Hearn
352 Industries
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:11:00 -
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Khumaak
Make it happen. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:13:00 -
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Would it be too much to ask for a Klingon Bat'leth? |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:23:00 -
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I recall the Gallente knives looking pretty wicked. I wouldn't mind variety in melee, but it's not clear to me already exactly how they'd hope to distinguish various knives from each...
Presumably they'd all have crap knife-style range. They'd need to be relatively high damage to compensate. You'd need at least some speed to be able to keep up with someone that's just backpedaling?
Yeah, I'm not ever sure what the idea is with the knives as-is... how would they actually make them different?
If the Amarr had some slower-swinging priest-staff thing, and so on... maybe they could mix it up? Even then, I'm not sure how balancing melee would work in this game. Or making it "viable" I guess. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:30:00 -
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I would love for the Amarr to have a sword, something very flashy and ceremonial looking, low damage compared to the nova knives, but higher range. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:47:00 -
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amarr lightsaber
minmatar tomahawk
the gallente knife model is awesome. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:57:00 -
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Well, Amarr ARE the EM/Thermal people. Maybe they could have a thermal lance (a la Fallout), or some sort of sconce/shaft-mounted pulse-laser blast implement. You charge it, *thrust*, blam.. charge. Longer range than knives, does mostly shield damage. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:16:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:Would it be too much to ask for a Klingon Bat'leth?
I don't know, a D'k Tahg seems more fitting. Shorter range, faster stabbing motion that doesn't require a charge so you can sprint, and maybe a skill that increases the number of stabs per button press. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:22:00 -
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minmatar model looks like the ripper in fallout |
Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:37:00 -
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How about a pair shock knuckles, or a sickle? Or a saw on a stick? |
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Jathniel
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:07:00 -
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The Amarr would have a lightsaber... I imagine it would be gold in color. Or just make it a golden high-frequency sword ala Metal Gear Revengeance?
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.06.04 10:41:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:The Amarr would have a lightsaber... I imagine it would be gold in color. Or just make it a golden high-frequency sword ala Metal Gear Revengeance?
I don't think lightsabers are scientifically feasible. Light doesn't just stop at the length of a sword, it extends indefinitely. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.04 10:56:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Jathniel wrote:The Amarr would have a lightsaber... I imagine it would be gold in color. Or just make it a golden high-frequency sword ala Metal Gear Revengeance?
I don't think lightsabers are scientifically feasible. Light doesn't just stop at the length of a sword, it extends indefinitely.
A nanites field prevents an infinite extension. |
Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:49:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I would love for the Amarr to have a sword, something very flashy and ceremonial looking, low damage compared to the nova knives, but higher range.
I'm not sure if any of you are familiar with Gundam 00, but as far as an Amarrian weapon, one of the weapons the mechs in that show had was a folding knife-type weapon that could vibrate at very high frequencies to enhance it's cutting abilities, but could also channel plasma over this physical blade to create an energy blade.
Why not combine the two into an oscillating plasma sword? I can't find a picture of the damn thing while it's running, but I think that describes the basic concept. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:51:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I would love for the Amarr to have a sword, something very flashy and ceremonial looking, low damage compared to the nova knives, but higher range. I'm not sure if any of you are familiar with Gundam 00, but as far as an Amarrian weapon, one of the weapons the mechs in that show had was a folding knife-type weapon that could vibrate at very high frequencies to enhance it's cutting abilities, but could also channel plasma over this physical blade to create an energy blade. Why not combine the two into an oscillating plasma sword? I can't find a picture of the damn thing while it's running, but I think that describes the basic concept.
Holy crap that sounds cool. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:10:00 -
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Just give me a hammer, don't care what race it is, I want a hammer. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:18:00 -
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Riddick's curved knives |
Mobius Wyvern
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I would love for the Amarr to have a sword, something very flashy and ceremonial looking, low damage compared to the nova knives, but higher range. I'm not sure if any of you are familiar with Gundam 00, but as far as an Amarrian weapon, one of the weapons the mechs in that show had was a folding knife-type weapon that could vibrate at very high frequencies to enhance it's cutting abilities, but could also channel plasma over this physical blade to create an energy blade. Why not combine the two into an oscillating plasma sword? I can't find a picture of the damn thing while it's running, but I think that describes the basic concept. Holy crap that sounds cool.
I've loved sword weapons in other games, except for the lunge everyone seems to insist on adding. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:37:00 -
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Amarr Gunblade! |
Ti Joad
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:02:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Just give me a hammer, don't care what race it is, I want a hammer.
Dude... HEAVY WITH HAMMERS (O_O ;). Could you imagine being chased by one. The shockwave from a charged melee with enough damage to destroy an LAV in one hit. OMG (T_T)
Would this mean a redo of the nova knife skill into a generic Sidearm "Melee Weapon" Skill (x% reduction to charge time)? Then you spec. into the racial weapons? (i.e. Amarr: +X% to dmg & +X% to heat reduction, Minmatar: +X% to dmg & +X% to movement speed, etc...) |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:02:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Well, Amarr ARE the EM/Thermal people. Maybe they could have a thermal lance (a la Fallout), or some sort of sconce/shaft-mounted pulse-laser blast implement. You charge it, *thrust*, blam.. charge. Longer range than knives, does mostly shield damage. Ok, this may be a better depiction of what I'm talking about. It's technically an early Chinese Firearm, a "fire lance". Later versions were similar if you can imagine long bronze barrels with a dragon-mouth design inlaid along the barrel. I'm picturing it more like the earlier Fire Lance though, where the business end is mostly just the very end. I'd picture it being mostly a polearm without an "edge", that could charged up for an EM blast out of the very end with very short range. I think unlike the charge on nova knives, this one could be a 1-shot at a time with limited capability to re-prep for another blast (limited ammo). However, after the ammo is used up, you'd still have a bludgeoning implement of sorts.
The idea of an Amarr EM lance is growing on me |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:01:00 -
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Gallente shotgun fist glove! |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.26 02:18:00 -
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I still want predator claws |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.06.26 02:31:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Having all 4 races have their own melee weapon is great, but if they're all knives then the variety is lost. Instead of each race getting some knives, give them each their own sort of melee weapon. Minmatar could get badass predator claws for example (pretty please)
Amarr should have some sort or cermonical lance, or spear or something.... something that looks amazing but isn't really practical...like every other Amarrian thing out there. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.06.26 02:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Having all 4 races have their own melee weapon is great, but if they're all knives then the variety is lost. Instead of each race getting some knives, give them each their own sort of melee weapon. Minmatar could get badass predator claws for example (pretty please) Amarr should have some sort or cermonical lance, or spear or something.... something that looks amazing but isn't really practical...like every other Amarrian thing out there.
Zeylon Rho suggested something like that with a part in the end to zap people. I very much the idea. |
Draxus Prime
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Posted - 2013.06.26 02:47:00 -
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i had an idea for a sort of shock staff u seen in starwars that general greivouses droid body guards carry
bascicaly a metal staff with electricity coming out of either end |
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II
0uter.Heaven
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.26 03:43:00 -
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idk if they got time fer that now, but in the future it b cool to have diffrent knifes. but not just cosmetics, we talking knifes wich slice faster but less DMG, or slice slower but more DMG, or have knifes wich can perform a takedown animation from the enemies 6 |
Talos Alomar
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Posted - 2013.06.26 04:49:00 -
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What's the go to weapon for faith-based characters?
What weapon of righteousness do paladins every use for smiting wickedness?
What weapon has been so indelibly tied to the crusader that I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned yet?
I want an Amarrian mace. It should swing in a wide arc to catch the quick minnie suits that try to strafe around you and have some damage bleed through shields.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.06.26 05:02:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:What's the go to weapon for faith-based characters?
What weapon of righteousness do paladins every use for smiting wickedness?
What weapon has been so indelibly tied to the crusader that I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned yet?
I want an Amarrian mace. It should swing in a wide arc to catch the quick minnie suits that try to strafe around you and have some damage bleed through shields.
You ser deserve all of the like ever in the world YUS another player who like stomping Minnie face into the dirt. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:46:00 -
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Amarr zapping lance would still be awesome. |
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True Adamance
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Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:51:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I would love for the Amarr to have a sword, something very flashy and ceremonial looking, low damage compared to the nova knives, but higher range.
I also feel a riot shield weapon is a necessity then. Could you imagine Titan boarding parties of Amarrian energy Shotguners lead by a Templar is flowing robes scrawled with Amarrian holy text wielding an energy sword and shield! |
Azri Sarum
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:53:00 -
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This thread is so full of awesome ideas, its crazy.
Here are a couple images that might make some interesting weapons once they are sci-fi'd up a bit.
Caldari blade
Amarr spear
Both from the hellboy movies but very cool nonetheless. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.16 08:18:00 -
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Azri Sarum wrote:This thread is so full of awesome ideas, its crazy. Here are a couple images that might make some interesting weapons once they are sci-fi'd up a bit. Caldari bladeAmarr spearBoth from the hellboy movies but very cool nonetheless.
Caldari already have their weapon, the nova knife. |
Azri Sarum
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Posted - 2013.07.16 08:59:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Caldari already have their weapon, the nova knife.
I only suggested caldari because it was already there color
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.31 14:44:00 -
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Still want those retracting predator claws |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:08:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Having all 4 races have their own melee weapon is great, but if they're all knives then the variety is lost. Instead of each race getting some knives, give them each their own sort of melee weapon. Minmatar could get badass predator claws for example (pretty please) EDIT: A lot of people seem to want an Amarr lance or spear with a zapping part at the end, I would love this.
Actually, I would prefer if the amarr still had a knife. However it was one hand open, one hand with a knife. If you went up behind someone you could grab their head, push them down and make a big cut right across their throat -.o
As someone said above, it would also be cool to have a shield. Maybe amarr shield and pistol combo? Please? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:50:00 -
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Lillica Deathdealer wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Having all 4 races have their own melee weapon is great, but if they're all knives then the variety is lost. Instead of each race getting some knives, give them each their own sort of melee weapon. Minmatar could get badass predator claws for example (pretty please) EDIT: A lot of people seem to want an Amarr lance or spear with a zapping part at the end, I would love this. Actually, I would prefer if the amarr still had a knife. However it was one hand open, one hand with a knife. If you went up behind someone you could grab their head, push them down and make a big cut right across their throat -.o As someone said above, it would also be cool to have a shield. Maybe amarr shield and pistol combo? Please?
I think a sword would fit Amarr more than a knife |
Arc-08
Horizons' Edge
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.31 19:54:00 -
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no, i'm pretty sure lightsaber is copyrighted
make it the holy lazerzaber. or lazersaber/lazersword |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.08.31 20:31:00 -
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Charged melee weapons
^this is a similar topic. I will link that topic to this so players on both can mingle.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST . |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:00:00 -
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Gallente plasma mace. A rod with a ball of plasma at the end of it. You can charge it, but if you charge it for too long it gives you feedback damage. High damage, slow swing. Reward timing the charge and swing just right with a OHK on anything besides vehicles.
Edit:Image |
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:04:00 -
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Amarrian EM spear thing...
Zap!
The Minnie's can have something like this... Very tribal feeling.
Brutal.
I imagine the Calamari having a sword because its practical...
FUUTUURRREEE SWOOORRDDD!!! |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:26:00 -
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Would love a sword like this: http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon%27s_Tooth_Sword
it also perfectly fits in the game universe, it's basically a sword made of nanites. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
6070
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Posted - 2013.09.20 14:51:00 -
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Creative slicing is the best slicing |
Awry Barux
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:01:00 -
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+1, there's nothing quite so fun as bringing a sword to a gun fight. I don't care particularly what they are, just give me more melee weapons! |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
267
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:14:00 -
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I like the idea of the Minmatar melee weapon being a Rusty Pipe (war club). Imagine a squad of them running around as pack bashing everything in their way. Would be hilariously awesome.
As for stats,
Same as Nova Knives
No charge attack
Higher swing rate
Add a stagger effect to mess with the aim of the person getting hit (you are getting bludgeoned after all) |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:18:00 -
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I still want some damn Minmatar retractable predator claws. http://mimg.ugo.com/201004/41948/predators-wrist-blades.jpg |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:37:00 -
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I want my knives to glow from the heat build-up. I also wish to throw them! Have no reticule, so that way you have to line it up yourself. Imagine being skilled at throwing them from crazy angles. |
DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:46:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:i had an idea for a sort of shock staff u seen in starwars that general greivouses droid body guards carry
bascicaly a metal staff with electricity coming out of either end
Holy ****!
Gallante Weapon! Called it! 
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:56:00 -
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One of them needs to be a heavy weapon.
Or a long-range melee weapon.
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Ulysses Knapse
duna corp
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:35:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:but if they're all knives then the variety is lost.
Knives make more sense.
Humanity is the personification of change.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
555
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:54:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:I like the idea of the Minmatar melee weapon being a Rusty Pipe (war club). Imagine a squad of them running around as pack bashing everything in their way. Would be hilariously awesome.
As for stats,
Same as Nova Knives
No charge attack
Higher swing rate
Add a stagger effect to mess with the aim of the person getting hit (you are getting bludgeoned after all)
You know you want it. It worked so well in half-life! |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
580
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Posted - 2013.11.07 17:40:00 -
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After looking at Minmatar history on Evelopedia, I think instead of the war club I suggested, it should be a Khumaak. |
Severus Smith
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.07 17:55:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Gallente plasma mace. A rod with a ball of plasma at the end of it. You can charge it, but if you charge it for too long it gives you feedback damage. High damage, slow swing. Reward timing the charge and swing just right with a OHK on anything besides vehicles. Edit: Image This, but for the Amarr. Who else but them would wield a mace shining with the light of righteousness? |
The-Errorist
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Posted - 2013.11.11 11:25:00 -
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+1 |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.11.11 13:56:00 -
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Amarr weapon should be a hammer (or similar blunt weapon like a mace) in my opinion. Nothing says divine faith like a hammer to crush those non-believers
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Posted - 2013.11.11 14:16:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:I recall the Gallente knives looking pretty wicked. I wouldn't mind variety in melee, but it's not clear to me already exactly how they'd hope to distinguish various knives from each...
Presumably they'd all have crap knife-style range. They'd need to be relatively high damage to compensate. You'd need at least some speed to be able to keep up with someone that's just backpedaling?
Yeah, I'm not ever sure what the idea is with the knives as-is... how would they actually make them different?
If the Amarr had some slower-swinging priest-staff thing, and so on... maybe they could mix it up? Even then, I'm not sure how balancing melee would work in this game. Or making it "viable" I guess.
The Gallente could have a single Plasma Blade that does s much damage as the two hits from a Nova Knives combo.
Just my .02 ISK. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:16:00 -
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Still love to see a lot of these ideas in action. This is one of those areas that would benefit from more time at the drawing board (not that some of the racial knives weren't cool looking...).
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:33:00 -
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I want to sprint with charged blades, then swing and drop my target while I'm still running. Man, that has to feel sweet. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.12.17 05:37:00 -
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Moar creativity!
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General Erick
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.17 08:39:00 -
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Glavaknuckles!
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.27 06:04:00 -
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The concept art shows the Amarr Knives as Roman.short swords, the Gallante have Bowie Knives and the Minmatar knife looks like a ballistic knife.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.12.27 06:09:00 -
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I want brass knuckles so I can brutaly punch things to death.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5082
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Posted - 2013.12.27 08:30:00 -
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I want explosive fists.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Nekomimi Gallentemerc
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.27 09:09:00 -
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i want swordfish nyaaa |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5082
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Posted - 2013.12.27 10:30:00 -
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Nekomimi Gallentemerc wrote:i want swordfish nyaaa
meow?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.27 11:35:00 -
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An energy whip, like Whiplash.
Deals massive amounts of damage, but can only be used a few times before it overloads the cable, causing feedback damage to the user.
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Posted - 2013.12.29 10:30:00 -
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Maybe the Amarr should get some kind of weapon that could charge and do feedback damage when it overheats. |
Stephen Seneca
Providence Guard
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:53:00 -
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I want throwable melee weapons. Like Boundless throwing axe, Kaalakiota throwing stars.. etc etc. Maybe a spear for the minnies. Something you can hack and slash with and if the enemy gets too far away you can huck that **** at them.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:03:00 -
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp_knife
The Wasp knife, a knife that releases compressed air into the target do expand knife wounds.
Sounds nasty.
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Stephen Seneca
Providence Guard
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:35:00 -
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The wasp knife sounds perfect for the minmatar. Sounds like a OHK though lol.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.30 02:15:00 -
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Stephen Seneca wrote:The wasp knife sounds perfect for the minmatar. Sounds like a OHK though lol.
Could be different, maybe it shoots a bullet when pressed against the target? For some reason I feel that is exactly what the Minmatar Knife is going to do; it looked kind of like a crappy ballistic knife.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.30 02:17:00 -
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CCP should change how they plan to implement melee weapons. If they do intend to release racial knives, the only way for them to be really effective due to the constraints of being a knife (low reach) is to make them have high alphas... but this makes them redundant.
Gallente - The Gallente are CQC experts, their melee weapon should focus on inflicting a high amount of alpha to quickly kill their target.
Caldari - The Caldari are not CQC fighters by choice. They want to take out their enemies at greater ranges to minimize their own loss. There weapon shouldn't be focusing on high alpha because that would mean they had to get through everyone else's preferred combat range to use it. Their weapon should be a support tool that lets them more easily return to their comfort zone.
Minmatar - To reflect their nature, the Minmatar weapon needs to be fast, brutal, and pack a wallop.
Amarr - The Amarr have a stand and deliver mentality so their weapon would focus on fighting no matter the odds.
Using this understanding of racial traits, I feel the melee weapons should be as thus:
Gallente - Nova Knives - The nova knives role of high alpha, low reach meshes perfectly with the Gallente. Reskin them to be more Gallente-like and they are done
Caldari - Stun Baton - Rather than focusing on damage, the caldari weapon would having a stunning effect (decreased movement speed and turn speed) while also disrupting the enemy's HUD which would make chasing a fleeing stun baton user fairly difficult. This allows the Caldari to return to their preferred greater ranges. Would still be effective against a single foe by stunning and switching to a more powerful weapon or using the enemy's reduced turn speed to avoid their line of fire as you beat them to death. The Stun Baton would have greater reach and rate of swing than the nova knives.
Minmatar - Khumaak - Fortunately Minmatar lore provides the perfect weapon for them. The Khumaak was once an Amarrian ceremonial item but is quite effect as a mace, one of the most brutal weapons to ever come into existence. The Khumaak would having a high base damage, high rate of swing, and have a bit of a knockback effect similar to the MD's to make hitting a Khumaak wielder more difficult.
Amarr - Laser sword - What could be more Amarrian than a giant golden laser sword? The sword would have a fairly slow swing speed and rate of swing but would have a high base damage. In addition, anyone hit by the sword would have a DOT armor burn. With these elements combined, the sword should be effective at making a CQC last stand that would make finish off weakened enemies and make those who live limp away regretting the encounter.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.12.30 04:36:00 -
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Yea no, the minmatar shall not have a staff for a cqc weapon. How about we just give them a war axe. And I also really want brass knuckles for the amarr. Just imagine glowing fist of light heading right for your skull. It has a charge ability allowing high alpha damage but the light gives away your position.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.30 11:00:00 -
[74] - Quote
Nocturnal Soul wrote:Yea no, the minmatar shall not have a staff for a cqc weapon. How about we just give them a war axe. And I also really want brass knuckles for the amarr. Just imagine glowing fist of light heading right for your skull. It has a charge ability allowing high alpha damage but the light gives away your position.
A three foot rod topped with a spiked eye hardly counts as a staff. While I really don't care what the design of the Min weapon is, I do want it to be a brawler's weapon since that is what would best fit the Minmatar. However, the Khumaak offers an excellent chance to inject more Eve lore into Dust (which Dust is sorely lacking at the moment).
While I admit the idea of a glowing fist weapon for the Amarr sounds incredibly cool (I even suggest it a while back), how is it any different in functionality from the Nova Knives? They would both be very short range weapons that feature charge attacks. Should all melee weapons function exactly the same with the only difference being aesthetics?
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.02.28 16:33:00 -
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Still want predator claws, would go well on a cloaked Minmatar scout.
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Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2014.03.03 20:10:00 -
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I didn't "hate" all the knives they showed concept art for, but they're woefully dull in terms of melee variety.
I posted this in another suggestion thread recently:
I want every race to have a melee weapon they'd consider "cool", but also apropos.
Minmatar's vibe makes feel like an updated version of a kukri would be great. Try to picture it with a carbon steel look perhaps. Kukris are just generally badass, and would look great single or paired - a poison or debilitate effect would be great here too.
The Amarr's "heavy" reputation and the Templar/Empire vibe grants some nice flexibility. I'd want to avoid a chain sword or the like, because it's too close to shades of Warhammer 40k. However, I like the laser Glaive idea, and actually just long/heavy lance type weapons in general. A spear with a constant laser edge is one option. I also like the idea of a remade Chinese Fire Lance where the melee weapon might care 1 or 2 single charge of a short-range (< 5m) Pulse laser blast from the tip of the the "lance". A roman or medieval looking laser sword wouldn't be bad either.
Caldari have Nova knives, technically. I'm wondering if they'd give them a second melee weapon. They did plan on knives for everyone after all.
Gallente have a few options. However, with both the Caldari and Minmatar using "fast" weapons, the French background might make a Guisarme a sensible choice. The Guisarme is a hook-spear combo that was theoretically used to unhorse people, etc. There's potential there for a "charged" hook effect to yank players towards you from a certain distance (which befits a slower armor tank). It would be even better if the "unhorsing" effect could be used to yank people out of passing LAVs.
---- I kinda like my "pull" effect idea on the Gallente one.
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jaksol returns
highland marines
IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.03.03 20:52:00 -
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I think you guys are missing the point of nova knifes. there are a side-arm! a lace or swords a little big to sidearm I can see a small throwing or melee ax or a explosive dart gun or even a pair of energy knife built into a pair of gauntlets AKA just like full metal or the clones assassins in the revenge of the sith game (a energy coated blade that pops out of the glove and it use for stabbing) |
Magpie Raven
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Posted - 2014.03.03 21:11:00 -
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Ifd love to see a tomahawk, knuckle dusters, or short sword. |
Rabid Ducc
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.03.03 21:16:00 -
[79] - Quote
Oh while were talking about melee weapons I think there should be a heavy melee weapon for heavy suits like a Thunder Hammer from Warhammer 40k or the Gravity Hammer from Halo |
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Posted - 2014.03.03 21:19:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Yea no, the minmatar shall not have a staff for a cqc weapon. How about we just give them a war axe. And I also really want brass knuckles for the amarr. Just imagine glowing fist of light heading right for your skull. It has a charge ability allowing high alpha damage but the light gives away your position. A three foot rod topped with a spiked eye hardly counts as a staff. To be honest, I don't really care what the design of the Min weapon is, but I do want it to be a brawler's weapon since that is what would best fit the Minmatar. However, the Khumaak offers an excellent chance to inject more Eve lore into Dust (which Dust is sorely lacking at the moment). While I admit the idea of a glowing fist weapon for the Amarr sounds incredibly cool (I even suggested it as well a while back), how is it any different in functionality from the Nova Knives? They would both be very short range weapons that feature charge attacks. Should all melee weapons function exactly the same with the only difference being aesthetics?
how about the amar have a kinda energy shield witch glows yellow that takes a small amount of damage (about 200) and a long energy blade that pops out of there armor on the arms (but takes up very little room as they are built into to the gloves that you put into in sidearm slot) allowing a kinda "holy crusader" type last stand |
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.03.03 22:23:00 -
[81] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I would love for the Amarr to have a sword, something very flashy and ceremonial looking, low damage compared to the nova knives, but higher range.
yea, but this isnt some medieval mmorpg. its a fps mmo.
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Posted - 2014.03.03 22:46:00 -
[82] - Quote
I'd like to add that I'm amused my original post on this is from last may. They didn't need to spend much time reconsidering them I guess considering it's close to a year since then with no indication that those knives are coming.
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Teeee Bone
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Posted - 2014.03.03 22:50:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Having all 4 races have their own melee weapon is great, but if they're all knives then the variety is lost. Instead of each race getting some knives, give them each their own sort of melee weapon. Minmatar could get badass predator claws for example (pretty please) EDIT: A lot of people seem to want an Amarr lance or spear with a zapping part at the end, I would love this.
Good idea.. We can give the mini's a wiffle bat... It'll be over-powered, of course.. Just like every other mini gear!! LOL
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Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.03 23:29:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I would love for the Amarr to have a sword, something very flashy and ceremonial looking, low damage compared to the nova knives, but higher range. I'm not sure if any of you are familiar with Gundam 00, but as far as an Amarrian weapon, one of the weapons the mechs in that show had was a folding knife-type weapon that could vibrate at very high frequencies to enhance it's cutting abilities, but could also channel plasma over this physical blade to create an energy blade. Why not combine the two into an oscillating plasma sword? I can't find a picture of the damn thing while it's running, but I think that describes the basic concept.
That sounds like an oversize nova knife tbh. No offence bro. |
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Posted - 2014.03.03 23:44:00 -
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id be down with predator claws 
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.03.04 02:52:00 -
[86] - Quote
ik how knives can be different... like im sure nova knife charge will be an exclusive nova knife characteristic. certain knives may end up having faster slash speeds. some may have greater damage for one slash. some may even end up being ballistic knife-like.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.04.24 05:09:00 -
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Gallente could have knuckle knives to punch enemies with.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.24 05:15:00 -
[88] - Quote
Was about to get really angry over the "Knuckle Knives" and then saw that you meant Trench Knives.
+1 for Gallentean Trench Knives.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 06:53:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
Shoot, if the Gallente can have wrist-mounted blades, the Amarr might as well have wrist-mounted laser swords like the psi-blades the zealots have in Starcraft.
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