too slow and you end up needing a swarm of players to take down a single player in a timely fashion... too fast and a single player can take out a blob before they realize hes there...

i feel, that for the most part, its relatively decent as it stands... there is balancing that can and or needs to be done, but i dont think its drastic enough to the point that 'EVERYTHING needs buffed' or 'EVERYTHING needs nerfed'... though i feel armor tank is a bit lack luster compared to shields...

I see what you mean, personally though I would prefer things a bit faster
I want combat to feel dangerous, know what I mean

Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle is next in my arsenal.

a) 72 clip
b) 39.6 base damage
c) +% damage against shields
d) Heat up is a joke you can literally go full auto with them


"The scrambler rifleGÇÖs optimal range will be increased " - CCP Remnant

XOXO

Tac Ars will always be useful and fit my playstyle. Expect more bitching and a double nerf.

Exactly. Increased hip-fire spread and lower ROF does not affect me at all. I use the scope 99% of the time anyway and I don't spam bullets (unless they're walking in an obvious pattern or when they stand still).

Smaller clip? Please, the damage is still high enough for me to take out people in a couple of bullets.

Yeah, bunny hopping around is the pinnacle of combat tactics
Real combat tactics include everything up to the engagement and the engagement itself, setting up ambush points, flanking the enemy, all that stuff is combat tactics
Bouncing around like a 10 year old with ADD and spraying bullets everywhere is not

instead of bringing the stats of the TAC down why not increase the stats of the AR?

CCP you messed up the guns and now have to mess it up AGAIN to compensate....

Just increase the range of the ARs and decrease the damage of the TAR, it's simple.
I never saw anyone use a TACAR before you destroyed the assault rifles.

Or how about this, why not have considered what you were doing to the range of the ARS before you nerfed them!?
You caused this and now we have to suffer because of it.

I'll just use a Duvolle instead though and then people will complain about that!

You can't win like this CCP you're going about it the wrong way.

anything that works in this game, you nerds WFMN.

then you actually claim this is the way the game is supposed to be.


you guys are codbois through and through.


way to ruin a game that had potential. again.


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anything that works in this game, you nerds WFMN.

then you actually claim this is the way the game is supposed to be.


you guys are codbois through and through.


way to ruin a game that had potential. again.


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The changes being tested include a smaller clip size, increased hip-fire dispersion to make it less effective in CQC and a lower ROF. WeGÇÖre not aiming to nerf hammer it so weGÇÖll monitor the weapon carefully after that to see the impact of the change.

anything that works in this game, you nerds WFMN.

then you actually claim this is the way the game is supposed to be.


you guys are codbois through and through.


way to ruin a game that had potential. again.


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Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle is next in my arsenal.

a) 72 clip
b) 39.6 base damage
c) +% damage against shields
d) Heat up is a joke you can literally go full auto with them


"The scrambler rifleGÇÖs optimal range will be increased " - CCP Remnant

XOXO

So they're hitting it on multiple fronts then claiming they don't want to over-nerf.

I think CCP needs to learn how to alter ONLY ONE ASPECT AT A TIME to see the impact of something.

ONE CHANGE.

ONE.

Reduce the RoF, see what happens.
If it needs more, reduce clip size as well, then see what happens.

ONE.
CHANGE.
AT.
A.
TIME.

I'm just glad they cant be fired at inhuman speeds and wont be as effective as my Shotgun Scout in CQC anymore.

So they're hitting it on multiple fronts then claiming they don't want to over-nerf.

I think CCP needs to learn how to alter ONLY ONE ASPECT AT A TIME to see the impact of something.

ONE CHANGE.

ONE.

Reduce the RoF, see what happens.
If it needs more, reduce clip size as well, then see what happens.

ONE.
CHANGE.
AT.
A.
TIME.

Exactly. Increased hip-fire spread and lower ROF does not affect me at all. I use the scope 99% of the time anyway and I don't spam bullets (unless they're walking in an obvious pattern or when they stand still).

Smaller clip? Please, the damage is still high enough for me to take out people in a couple of bullets.

Bunny hopping is for people that don't know how to strafe and counter strafe. Steady hands and good footwork will always beat out an itchy trigger finger in an extended firefight.

Well said.

Also, everyone in this thread should keep in mind CCP Cmdr Wang's post about range changes that are going in that will bring engagement ranges back up for all weapons.

With everything able to do at least some damage at longer ranges, these changes are probably all that will be needed.

Basically, if anyone QQs after the nerf, **** on them for being idiots. If you think getting killed at long range by a long range weapon is unfair, you need to go somewhere else.

But that's the point. If you're dropping people at range with no problem, it's because you're using the weapon the way it was meant to be used.
Nobody cares about getting killed by a Tac AR at its optimal range unless they're a moron. The issue is the Tac AR currently dominating at every range and making all other weapons useless.

naw it was players like you who i outgunned based on skill using militia gear while you had protoad gear.


it wasn't the gear, ma'am.
it was the person using it.


but you go ahead and claim otherwise.

this is how you guys do: you get beat, can't figure out why, blame the weapons and WFMN.

then the game has less then 10k people playing it.
the reviews pi$$ all over it

and you guys sit around thinking you're right.


nice try, nancy boy.

NEXT!

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And so the crutch is knocked out of the arms of the "1337" players.

Really? Come on man, you're a veteran you should know this...


CCP has over nerfed everything in the game at one time or another and the best players keep on being good. It doesn't matter what they nerf, good players will pick up another weapon and be just as good at it.

This has happened through multiple builds, they already nerfed the TAR in a previous build and it didn't slow down good players then. Most will probably move to Scrambler or back to regular Duvolle.

If all they nerf is the CQC on the TAR, players can just use the TAR and a Flaylock (needs to be toned down too).